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    Hi,
    With the Christmas season coming up and my income as a student quite sporadic (aka I'm so poor right now), I was hoping for some advice.
    I am a confident, young student, around 20. There are a few questions I would like answered, however, before I think about applying to become a cam model. Thank you to anyone who can answer these for me.

    1) From what I can gather, you charge per minute and receive 35% of earnings. I don't know the exact names of these chats, but there is one before it becomes exclusive that has multiple visitors (I believe). Say you have 5 visitors and you charge $2 a minute, do you then receive $10 a minute (before 65% is taken) because there are 5 paying customers?
    2) How rude do you have to be on camera? I know this is going to sound stupid, but as much as I am confident and flirty, there are certain things I am just not comfortable with. I'm only young, and I was raised in a family which is a bit prudish towards sex. Hence they can't find out.
    3) This is more of a hypothetical question, but what sort of money can I earn? I can't do it all day, but I do have most evenings free.
    4) Is it possible to protect your identity? I had the idea of wearing a wig and using a stage name. But I would not like to disclose my real name. For no real reason, just personal choice and fear of people I know finding out. I see nothing wrong with what everyone on here is doing, hence why I would like to join the bandwagon. I just know that there are prudish people who are unkind about this sort of thing.

    Thanks so much for the help. x

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    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...reamate+thread

    This is the streamate thread, the answers to all your questions are here also, browse camming connection extensively, there is a lot of priceless information that you will find. Good luck camming and welcome to SW!

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    Thank you Simone I am very nervous, but I am also ambitious and looking to earn a fair wedge. Just nervous about that because if I get too ambitious I'll have to try and explain to my family how I got the money lol! I have had a look, and couldn't find the answer to question 1. Would you be able to answer it for me? ^-^

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    The thread Simone linked you to has the answers to each of your questions. Trust me--I've seen those questions posted there in the last week alone. The Streamate Preformer manual can also answer them, which you should have a link to in your welcome email from Streamate and which is also accessible through the SM dashboard.


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    Ah okay, sorry! I was looking towards the beginning of the thread thinking it would be in OP's post. My mistake :-) I shall take a look. Thanks!

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    Happy reading. Those two sources should be all you'll ever need and more.


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    I want to answer question #4. You will only need to use your real name when you sign up but you can choose a stage name. It's important to remember that once you start camming, it can be all over the internet and you can be outed anytime, anywhere. It doesn't matter how you disguise yourself. It will happen sooner or later. It comes with the territory. So before you start, you have to be completely okay with that.
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    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    That's very helpful of you, thank you. What if you only did it for a short amount of time, and requested to SM to delete your account after? The reason I ask is because of the field of work I want to go into being competitive and requiring a squeaky-clean persona. Just to clarify, I see nothing wrong with what anybody does on here. It's more an anxiety thing. That's literally the only thing putting me off ATM.

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    It doesn't matter if SM delete your account or not. It doesn't matter if you only cam for five minutes, fully dressed someone can still record you. After all, you are on a porn site. If you are going into any profession that requires a squeaky-clean persona as you've mentioned then don't do it. However, only YOU know what's best for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    That's very helpful of you, thank you. What if you only did it for a short amount of time, and requested to SM to delete your account after? The reason I ask is because of the field of work I want to go into being competitive and requiring a squeaky-clean persona. Just to clarify, I see nothing wrong with what anybody does on here. It's more an anxiety thing. That's literally the only thing putting me off ATM.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Carmen~ View Post
    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    Bah, life is unfair.
    Thank you. I will think about it.

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    It's not about what's fair or not. It's just that you can't have the cake and eat it too.
    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    Bah, life is unfair.
    Thank you. I will think about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Carmen~ View Post
    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    Bah, life is unfair.
    Thank you. I will think about it.
    Life is more fair then you think. The reason the job pays well is because of the trade-off of doors that close to you by choosing to work it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    Life is more fair then you think. The reason the job pays well is because of the trade-off of doors that close to you by choosing to work it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Carmen~ View Post
    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    Here's the background check thread. Read everything in it, along with all of the links posted. This will give you a better idea of how camming will affect your family life, future job prospects, and other relationships:
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ckground-Check


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    I wasn't looking to cause offence or sound like a whine in my 'life is unfair' comment. I am just in a bad place ATM. I had hoped this would be my 'get out of jail free' card. It just feels unfair, that in a bid to find the financial backing for my field of work, I'll be potentially losing the ability to go into it. If that makes sense. Thank you for the help either way, and sorry if I came across badly. It genuinely wasn't intended.

    Thank you Evelyn.
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    Hey girlie,

    All I know is that you have to give your real name, address, social, etc to any real cam site (like streamate) for tax purposes only, so you can get your 1099 at the end of the year. You don't use your real name any other time. Make up a stage name, get a wig, look up some stage makeup tutorials to change your look, etc. If you are worried about people recognizing you, don't show your face when you're on cam. Lots of girls do this and say they do just fine not showing their face.

    In your first post you said you aren't worried for any real reason, but in your latest post, you say you are worried because of a potential job in the future. I have read stuff on here about background checks, but even so I think streamate's info is under a different name - ICF or something like that, so that shouldn't raise a flag even if you put it on your resume and/or a background check was done. If you put it on a resume if you stay at it long enough, put that you do at home customer service or something like that. Other cam models who are getting paid by streamate could probably correct me on streamate's name on checks, background checks, etc.

    In any case, weirdos and cam sites will and do record your videos. They can plaster them all over the web. Try to disguise yourself. Don't show your face. Cover your tattoos, birthmarks, etc. It's a scary world we live in. You can be recognized while out shopping. You just never know. It's a risk you take if you want to make good money.

    If you are truly worried about your face being out there, like someone else suggested in a thread I read just yesterday.... do phone sex only. Then it's just your voice. But of course you'll still have to give your name, address, etc for tax info to the company.

    Oh and as for being rude to customers... I think that just happens sometimes when the "bb guys" start asking for free shit. I've seen some of my fave cam models either say "sure I'll show you my tits... for $10 gold" or "tip me and I'll show" or "read the topic of the room, guys" or "ask again for free shit in my room and i'll kick you out" hehe I love the smart ones who come back with something witty to say. The guys are like "oh daaaaaaaaaaamn she got youuuuu" and everyone's rollin'. But you could always just ignore the freeloaders who ask. I just love the freeloading guys who tell other guys to tip in to a gold show, yet they haven't tipped themselves. LOL It's like *eye roll*. Oh, and one of my fave models says "I'm gonna clean up the room in 60 seconds guys, so if you haven't tipped, you'll be kicked out" lol Love it!

    Oh and as someone else suggested in another thread, don't look at the top models' shows as examples of what you'll make your first day. Those models have worked their cute little tushies off to get to the top. If you are going to go ahead and give camming a try, just remember, you get out of it what you put in... even I know this in my day job I've had for the last 8 years. Keep consistent with a schedule, log in, be there, show them your personality and naughty side, and in no time, you'll start making money. Always give 100% in your shows so you'll have people coming back or wanting to spend time with you. This is in any customer service job.

    Anyway, I know it's scary. Hell, I've had my account started back up for the last two weeks and I have yet to log in. I'm nervous as hell to log in. I'm nervous about being all over the internet too. I think everyone is/was at one time or another.

    Anyhoo, I do wish you the very best. Have a great Sunday!
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    Oh and this is a thread I found just from what Evelyn posted up top. I bolded in red what you might be concerned with. It's just up to you whether or not you want to take that chance. Good luck, girlie!

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    For the moment at least, the possibility of having adult industry related 1099 payment records find their way back to a potential employer is directly related to the depth of the background check. If the potential employer requires you to fill out an IRS form 4506 'records release' permission form, you know that the odds of being 'outed' just went way up.

    In general, the types of jobs / careers that will draw this sort of in-depth background check are...

    - anything that requires a Professional License from the state ... nursing, engineering, attorney, CPA etc.

    - any job that involves the 'public trust' ... banking, education, health care, higher level gov't worker et
    c.


    Also, for the moment at least, prospective employers in lower skill level / higher 'turnover' fields like retail, food service& hospitality, etc. won't bother with the IRS form 4506 business.


    I'll also throw out there that, where fields requiring professional licenses are concerned, getting by the initial background check and receiving your initiall license isn't the end of it. In my own case I had obtained my professional license to practice Respiratory Therapy in two different states right after graduating from college. When I went to renew my licenses after 10 years, one of the two states turned up the fact that I had worked in the adult industry. This resulted in my receiving an official reprimand for 'unprofessional conduct' from the state Professional Licensing Board, a four figure fine being assessed, and a cover letter being put into my professional license file that immediately informs any existing / prospective employer checking the status of my license of my adult industry related 'unprofessional conduct'.

    In my own case, it was fortunate that I had been able to bank enough money from dancing over the years that I really will never need to work as a Respiratory Therapist again. And of course the state could not revoke my License altogether since technically speaking I hadn't done anything illegal. However, had I still been dependent on Respiratory Therapy work, it's fairly certain that any upscale medical facility would not hire / would find an excuse to fire me ... leaving me limited opportunities to still find Respiratory Therapy work at state prisons, at inner city clinics etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    1) From what I can gather, you charge per minute and receive 35% of earnings. I don't know the exact names of these chats, but there is one before it becomes exclusive that has multiple visitors (I believe). Say you have 5 visitors and you charge $2 a minute, do you then receive $10 a minute (before 65% is taken) because there are 5 paying customers?
    Exclusive is one on one. Premium is group show. Each person who joins into your show, gets charged your rate of $2 a minute so if you want to look at it at that way, yes. Luckily SM keeps track of your earnings so you don't have to worry about that and just copy and paste into spread sheets.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    2) How rude do you have to be on camera? I know this is going to sound stupid, but as much as I am confident and flirty, there are certain things I am just not comfortable with. I'm only young, and I was raised in a family which is a bit prudish towards sex. Hence they can't find out.
    You don't have to do anything you are uncomfortable with. If a member asks "can you poop for me." just say no. If they keep pestering you asking you "why," (cam patrons are like 4 year olds. They throw tantrums and constantly ask why.) I say because I don't want to. If they whine and become a nuisance, you can chose to chew them out or block. Sometimes I do both. You don't have to nice to everyone. Fuck, I'm sometimes not nice to my regs if they cross a line I don't like. I'm nice to the ones that respect me, try not to push my limits, tips me or takes me to private, and doesn't bring up inappropriate shit. The block button is your friend, if anyone is making you unconfortable, you can ban them. You don't even have to have a valid reason. Basically its your clubhouse and you can chose who you want to hang out, and who can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    3) This is more of a hypothetical question, but what sort of money can I earn? I can't do it all day, but I do have most evenings free.
    UP TO $10,000. Lol.. no really. No one can truly tell you how much you can make. Some girls work their butts off and make peanuts. With others, it comes easy. Remember this is a sales job. Not everyone is a salesman. You have to sell your shows when there is all this free porn out there on the internet now.



    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    4) Is it possible to protect your identity? I had the idea of wearing a wig and using a stage name. But I would not like to disclose my real name. For no real reason, just personal choice and fear of people I know finding out.
    ALWAYS USE A STAGE NAME! Other things you can do is... Make it a habit to only wear makeup on cam, and not when your go out. Stop posting selfies of yourself on private social media pages or stop participating in social media with your vanilla life.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArabellaExie View Post
    I see nothing wrong with what everyone on here is doing, hence why I would like to join the bandwagon. I just know that there are prudish people who are unkind about this sort of thing.
    Just remember its a hard wagon to stay on. I can't remember the statistic of all the new girls that quit camming after a certain amount of time. But this is not easy money that media has painted it to be. It looks easy for some, but times its hard for everyone.





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    Thank you, both of you, so much. The field I want to go into is performing. I have more chance of being hit by a bus than getting 'on' or getting famous, but how awful would it be if I was finally scouted after years of trying and have something like this hinder it. I don't mean 'like this' in a bad way, either, I actually mean that I disagree with these 'background checks' and how your past choices can impact your employability. It's ridiculous that people in the sex industry seem to be overlooked. Nobody is doing anything wrong.

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    I have read stuff on here about background checks, but even so I think streamate's info is under a different name - ICF or something like that, so that shouldn't raise a flag even if you put it on your resume and/or a background check was done. If you put it on a resume if you stay at it long enough, put that you do at home customer service or something like that. Other cam models who are getting paid by streamate could probably correct me on streamate's name on checks, background checks, etc.
    This info is a bit misleading. SM is now called ICF Technology Inc., and that's what will appear on your 1099, and possibly on a background check. Just because the name has changed does NOT mean that it won't raise a red flag. If you google "ICF Technology Inc," the first website is the official website, and it only mentions video streaming services. However, on the very first page of google results, #8 says "STREAMATE trademark by ICF TECHNOLOGY, INC." and #10 says "ICF provides web hosting services to hundreds of pornography websites." That's right there on the google page, before you even click the link.

    Please don't think that you're safe because the official name isn't Streamate. I also certainly wouldn't list it on a resume as customer service, because all it takes is a google search to show that ICF Technology is porn. The first website that describes it says "porn," not "webcam modelling," so they'll probably assume you did actual porn. You could try to play it off and say you worked for their customer service department (which is awful, and nothing that should ever go on anyone's resume ETA: specifically Streamate's customer service is terrible, not customer service in general), but I'm pretty sure it would be easy enough to prove that as a lie.
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    Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up about ICF.

    For the record, I have used customer service on my resume when I was a PSO for a very well known company, and it never raised any flags. But I also wasn't applying for financial institution jobs. I don't believe it's awful to put that on your resume. Thanks for your input though.
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    Camming isn't the ONLY job in the world. You want a squeaky clean life, then go live one. There are bartending & waitress jobs at places like hooters & hot clubs to make good money in a night. Go wait tables at a titty bar.

    Clean houses, if you have a good & new car become a driver for uber.com or lyft.com Start a dog walking business or pet sitting.

    You maybe a hot young chic, but does NOT guarantee you will make money on cam. There is NO fast money either. Girls who bank, built up a following, regulars & hustle to make money. There are many cam girls who put in the hours & don't make $100 in a week.

    Fact is, 80% of cam girls who sign up dont make money, don't last longer than 2 weeks. So, unless you are serious about this biz, have a passion for it, know what you want out of it in the long term, it isn't for you. And yes, $2 per minute is WAY to CHEAP.... you wont make money at 35% of it. Think more like $5 per minute, even at $2 per minute doesn't mean any guy will take you private much less several of them.

    Predators, the worst of the worst, the con artist, hateful men LOVE LOVE LOVE new girls like you. They will tear you apart & make you cry just for fun. Some will even set out to find out exactly who you are & tell your family, your friends who you are. Think a wig & make up will protect you? nope... everything in your room, everything you wear, not to mention on google you can do a search with just a face pic & find your facebook, twitter, instagram account.

    WARNING: THIS IS NOT A JOB for those who think it is quick fast money without the whole world knowing. In today's world, there are NO secrets. NONE! Any & every employer for good to great jobs will & do check out credit score, job history and ALL social media accounts. Got drunken pics of you out on the town all night long, opps, just cost you a job 7 years from now. You are young, what you do online today affects tomorrow in a REAL Way

    First time I went online web camming for Naked. A guy popped into free chat & wrote "ARen't you that girl from a party about 6 years ago at a cowboys players house in a vibrating easy chair with two of your friends Tina & Misty". I denied denied denied, but I WAS. LMAO

    All kinds of places are hiring for christmas help.

    What kind of money will you make? Nobody here has a magic crystal ball to tell you the future. It is a job, where you get what you put into it. Thus doing it part time in hopes of making money yet being sexually repressed on top of it will NOT work. You want to sit there, look pretty & get paid for it.... does NOT happen. Even girls who do & get paid for it, have a hustle that is SPECIAL! I mean one out of a million Special. And if you did have that kind of special hustle, you wouldn't be on here asking about camming. I know those kind of girls, they get money just by walking in a club & never even kissed one guy. My bestie is one of them, cars, vacations, expensive jewelry, purses, shopping trips, cash. But she grew up on the carnie world and then was out on the streets hustling since 15 years old & did NOT hook. She is good. That is the kind of special hustler you need to be on cam to get paid for sitting there & looking pretty without doing anything nasty.

    Tell me, do you have that kind of skill? Cause I sure the fuck don't.

    You want a career in a world where you have to be squeaky clean, it isn't about judgment but about keeping your goal in mind. Then you need to go find a different kind of job, many people need help cleaning & decorating their houses for the holidays. There are people who need wait staff for christmas & New Years eve parties. There are all kinds of ways to make money without getting naked for a short term.

    Good luck,
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    Thank you Sam for your very honest reply.
    I am completely truthful when I say that, yes I am naive, but I did not come on here hoping to cause offence. Of course I didn't. I don't agree that anybody in this industry aren't 'squeaky clean' - you take your clothes off, it doesn't instantly make anybody a bad person. I don't necessarily want a squeaky clean life, unfortunately the goal that has dominated my whole life demands it. It's a job where even the smallest thing, will be made into a huge 'scandal'. That's why identity protection was important to me. To be honest, I probably would have enjoyed aspects of this job thoroughly. The only thing that would have held me back was the prudish family I have been raised by. It's a shame that it would hinder me in other fields that I have spent my whole life being interested in. I intended this to be a means to an end, with my financial predicament. I currently work two jobs. This is a strain on my studies. Both currently do not need me, because there is not enough going on. Jobs in my hometown don't come by easily - a lot require 'experience' that I lack, or NVQ's and whatnot that I do not possess because I chose to do A Levels to go to university. Where I live, 'titty bars' are not a thing. It just doesn't happen. This was advertised to me in my research as a job for students to make money to get them by. That's all I ever intended this to be. Heck, I wouldn't even be comfortable doing half the things some people do. That's not me passing moral judgment either - I am frightened that I am going to come across as offensive. I admire each and everyone of you who come on here and make money through what you do. It is clear that a lot of commitment goes into this - the $1000 a week goals. That was never my intention - I didn't ever imagine I would make that sort of money quickly. Just something to tie me over, as I am under a lot of stress. I am suffering mentally with anxiety and mild depression, and money worries with Christmas coming up is making it worse. I didn't want anybody's pity, hence why I tried to be as vague as possible in previous posts. Perhaps this was my mistake and why I possibly came across as insensitive or naive. I'm genuinely so sorry if I have ruffled any feathers in anyone. I feel like, looking at some replies, I have, and it genuinely wasn't intended. Thank you for the help that has been provided. And I offer sincere apologies to anyone who thinks I am a wanker - I'm 20, I'm a student with big dreams and I could have done with the money - this job (even if it is not) is said to be easy money, so who can blame me for thinking it might be feasible?
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    I don't believe it's awful to put that on your resume.
    Sorry, JessaBelle! My post wasn't very clear, but I was talking about Streamate's customer service specifically. There's definitely nothing wrong with working customer support! There are so many complaints about SM's customer service that "camgirl" probably looks better on a resume than "cs rep for a notoriously awful cs department."
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    You are most welcome, here.

    But camming isn't a short time fix if a long term career not involving adult themed work.

    We are not being hateful but honest in how it can affect you in life & career.

    Many people are broke, just be honest with family & friends that you are broke student and can't afford gifts. They will all understand.

    College is hard to find the balance between working & earning enough to get through it & time to take classes & study. Life is that balance too, most people even with degrees work several jobs to make ends meet.

    NOT that we aren't being friendly, just telling you camming will haunt you. It is NOT possible to do it & hide it. That isnt hate, but us being considerate enough to tell you the truth.

    It is a hard core hustle job, you have to put yourself out there to make any kind of money. This isn't about moral judgement but facts of life. Camming is a job that you own it or don't do it.


    Maybe what you need to figure out in your life what is more important. Will this career path you are pursuing in college is worth it, the work & sacrifice. Will you make money, will you be emotionally rewarded in that career. Many go to college, go far into debt & can't get a job in that field or find out it never paid well. Or did you come here to have us convince you to be a cam girl, a porn star.

    College is expensive. Way to many bullshit classes you have to take, study, get a good grade & pay for in order to get a degree that have NOTHING to do with your career choice. Utter Bullshit & a waste of time, money & resources. If you want to be an actress, then go where they make movies & tv shows. A college degree no matter if it is Ivy league gets you hired for rolls. Casting calls, acting classes, agents & maybe sucking a few dicks do.

    You don't need a college degree to be a performer. I know many actors, musicians, famous people, no degree needed. Being creative & doing great youtube videos gets you discovered. When I watch a movie or tv show never once have I wondered what college they went to or if they had a degree.

    Let's us pretend you did do camming & made good money. Then move to LA & get discovered. Afraid of the tabloids will find out & ruin you? What if you owned it. No, such thing as bad press. If you are talented, that all will matter. Call it free publicity. Turn it into a major thing like Paris Hilton & Kim Kardashian did.


    Sometimes in life, you just have to go for it & have no regrets. Doesn't matter what we write here, what advice to do it or not to do it. Talent always shines through combine it with ambition, hard work & streak of stubborness you can achieve many things. Being scared, timid doesn't get anyone anywhere. Life is full of risk, that is what makes it fun.

    Playing it safe rarely gets you out of a small town with no jobs. Going to college is a safe bet it used to be.

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