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    For those who have smelly customers-ie-they smell your drinks=dipping the rim of a glass in a strong-scented liquor will give it enough of an alcohol scent to make it through two or three virgin refills.
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    For those who have smelly customers-ie-they smell your drinks=dipping the rim of a glass in a strong-scented liquor will give it enough of an alcohol scent to make it through two or three virgin refills.
    I had the bartender make me "screwdriver" after "screwdriver" the other night. The guy I was sitting with said "Wow! Is it the Irish or the Mexican side that gives you such a high tolerance?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    If you can control your drinking there's nothing wrong with having a couple at work. Just learn to be aware .
    ^This is how I feel about "drinking at work"-drinking is fine, getting drunk (having a dependency on it) in order to work is dangerous.
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    @OP, if anxiety is the issue, have you considered taking something, prescription or natural, for it? L-theanine is OTC, discrete, and works pretty well.
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    I have officially decided to never drink at work ever again. I didn't have a single drink during my last shift, and I didn't need to. I just "tapped into" the drunk feeling of the atmosphere. I put on the act that I was slightly buzzed, and somehow, it tricked my brain into thinking I WAS actually slightly buzzed. I'm going to use this method from now on. I talked slower, blinked my eyes slowly, laughed loosely, and just felt the buzz off of everyone else. It's like an empath thing, I guess. But it works!

    BTW, Julia, thank you for sharing all that. Reading that just solidified my decision in never touching another drink ever again. I'm done.
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    I had a relative who recently passed away due to liver problems...caused from excessive alcohol use through the years (he was 59). For the longest time, he looked and felt "just fine".





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    I had a relative who recently passed away due to liver problems...caused from excessive alcohol use through the years (he was 59). For the longest time, he looked and felt "just fine".
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveJardin View Post
    ^This is how I feel about "drinking at work"-drinking is fine, getting drunk (having a dependency on it) in order to work is dangerous.

    ...and whilst I agree that "being aware" and "controlling drinking" will definitely work for most people a genuine addict is different in that they also have a physical component to their addiction; when alcohol enters the bloodstream and hits the brain a chain reaction of physiological responses begin. Which is why they say in the rooms "One drink is too many and one thousand is never enough".

    So, for a dancer who is a genuine addict it goes beyond willpower and the ability to control their drinking because they have a genetic condition which causes them to drink. It would be like a diabetec trying to control their insulin levels by having cupcakes its never going to work x
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickdreams View Post

    So, for a dancer who is a genuine addict it goes beyond willpower and the ability to control their drinking because they have a genetic condition which causes them to drink. It would be like a diabetec trying to control their insulin levels by having cupcakes its never going to work x
    ^Of course, I agree and nice analogy. It would be challenging to work in this environment with alcoholic tendencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    I have officially decided to never drink at work ever again. I didn't have a single drink during my last shift, and I didn't need to. I just "tapped into" the drunk feeling of the atmosphere. I put on the act that I was slightly buzzed, and somehow, it tricked my brain into thinking I WAS actually slightly buzzed. I'm going to use this method from now on. I talked slower, blinked my eyes slowly, laughed loosely, and just felt the buzz off of everyone else. It's like an empath thing, I guess. But it works!

    BTW, Julia, thank you for sharing all that. Reading that just solidified my decision in never touching another drink ever again. I'm done.
    Good for you and you're very welcome. Just so everyone knows, this was about a year ago, long after I was done dancing and binge drinking. Please don't think that damage isn't being done after you quit. There could very much still be a storm brewing. SO NOT GIVING MEDICAL ADVICE, but milk thistle is good for repairing liver damage and I take it religiously now. Cuz if that's what happened to my stomach, imagine what shape my liver's in. Please don't think I'm miserable now, I make a ridiculous amount of money working one day a week and my health is stable enough to have a way better quality of life than I did when I was stuck in a bottomless, dark pit. Also, addressing the reason behind the drinking is a good way to take charge of the situation. Most commonly, to deal with the anxiety, the groping, or both. Removing yourself from a high contact club (going to a low contact one, switching to camming, supplementing lost income with photo shoots) and addressing the anxiety (through therapy, meds, meditation, spiritual help) are longer lasting and far more effective in the long run. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for not doing that. STILL NOT GIVING MEDICAL ADVICE, but in retrospect, a daily antacid could have cut down on the damage done by ulcers while I was drinking, something for those not ready to cut down to keep in mind. Also, long term drinkers should never go cold turkey, the withdrawl is uncomfortable and sometimes fatal. Tapering down or withdrawing under a physicians' care are safer ways to go.
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    ^ 2nd the cold turkey statement, it can quite literally kill an alcohol dependent to quit without medical supervision.
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    I totally feel you.

    I had no idea how much strippers go through to make money before I started.

    And sometimes I am convinced that no matter how good I'm looking and feeling, no matter how tight my hustle game is making money in the club just boils down to pure luck - having the right customer at the right time.

    Plus depending on where you work, the area or club maybe scarce on quality buying customers.

    Also, the club I work has lots of veteran dancers who are aggressive hustlers and territorial. They try to run the club like a drug dealer who runs the block practically monopolizing opportunities for new dancers to make money. Meaning you have to work just as aggressively or leave and find something better.

    You could try a couple different clubs in your area before giving up on dancing.
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    I started dancing after I got sober, and I work really hard to project a confident and successful persona without booze. It was a reality check when I would see other dancers working to pay their fucking bar tab at the end of the night. These women were getting free drinks from customers and racking up $50+ in bar tabs WITH A DANCER DISCOUNT. I was a gnarly binge drinker, so this job does make me reckon with my own issues. I hope what I just said doesn't sound judgmental, because I like the women I work with and I would NEVER preach to anyone about addiction substance abuse because I already live that life. On a positive note, I believe anyone can train themselves to hustle sober and be a badass on stage sober too! $$$$

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    Agreed, the sticky thread about work sober recounts multiple inspirational stories of dancers, like myself, who retrained ourselves to hustle sober and saw massive increase in income (along with all the health and beauty benefits).

    Its not unnatural to believe that you can't work without having a drink or two (or ten), its hard to create a connection with someone you feel you have little in common with and having a drink or two is one method of changing your emotional and mental state enough to move beyond that. Even one or two drinks per shift add up! They impact your bodies energy levels, the sugar in the alcohol converts to fat, it dulls your skin and eyes....

    All the hustling skills you have wont be lost once you choose to stop drinking.... it will be a short period of adjustment (and sometimes not at all) and those skills will come roaring to the surface- if any former drinkers have found the same experience thank below or share your stories.....
    OP you have everything to gain and nothing to lose by stopping.

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    As someone who's still struggling, I can't offer any good tips aside from what not to do.

    Never take not needing to drink to work efficiently for granted. I would have 0-3 drinks paced out in a 6 hour shift so I would be dead sober for my drive home for years. I almost always felt confident and was a top earner. I loved partying on my days off, but hated it at work. I'd scoff at 'timewasters' who wanted me to have a drink at best, or question whether they were rapists at worst.

    When I moved to a city with public transit it started slow. I could drink as much as I wanted without worrying about ruining lives, but I was rarely drunk. But then the stress of a new environment, higher mileage, better booze, and raised stakes combined to increase both my drinking and my income. The last straw was someone I love very much (no fault to her!) bringing along liquor for the train, and starting to work more regularly. I had a brief respite with my boob job, but when I 'could' drink again it was just no self control.

    Now I worry about my health 24/7 and need at least 4 drinks to fall asleep. I make roughly half my income when I work a sober shift, and suspect the customers who are attracted to me skew more heavily toward potential predators. I'm sure I'm that obnoxious girl to staff members. The only good (or bad) thing going for me is overtipping when I'm drunk. So I've also trained staff to be better to me when I'm intoxicated, and probably lie when I ask if I need to reel it in. They always say "No! You're great tipsy!" Nope, my money is.

    Sorry for the ramble and if it's not useful. I'm just finally dumping it out in case it helps anyone become more mindful of how this problem might start. I always misinterpreted the meaning of "Don't do the job if you can't do it sober" to mean something more along the lines of "If you have to drink to become a stripper you're not cut out for it," rather than a more liberal "Your health is more important than doing this particular job." I may have to take a break in order to quit.

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    ^ Thankyou for your honesty.

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    When I first started dancing I was wasted probably every shift I worked. I was way too shy and not confident enough to do it without drinking. I was doing that for like a year probably. Then I slowly started drinking less & I didn't need to be that drunk to work. I think I started looking at it more like a skill and not like a party. I tried different ways of hustling customers and saw what worked and what didn't. When guys were spending money on me I started realizing that I have a skill and can make money without drinking. This raised my confidence and I didn't NEED to drink at work anymore.

    Now I can easily work sober. Ill bring a couple mixed shots with me sometimes because I work at a club that doesn't sell alcohol but not enough to get really drunk. Like someone else said I don't drink now because I need to and could not possibly work without it but because I enjoy it sometimes. When I worked at an alcohol club I had a rule of no shots. If you take shots at a club that sells alcohol it's easy to get carried away. When I work at alcohol clubs I only drink vodka sodas if I choose to drink.

    So, yeah I do not recommend doing what I did. I figured it out on my own over time but if you can realize what's going on early on and hear about other experiences you can avoid all of that. When you work drunk you aren't gaining any skills, it's kind of like winging it. If you start working sober now you can see what works for you and what doesn't. The more times you make money without drinking the more confident you will be and you won't need any "liquid courage". You'll start realizing that you are hot and can hustle different types of customers for their money. You just need more practice working sober for the confidence to come. I wish I knew this sooner so I didn't waste a year thinking that I HAD to be drunk to make any money. I used to need a couple shots before I even walked into the club to start my shift and now I walk around a busy club dead sober thinking that I am hot shit & any of these guys would feel honored to spend their money on me. lol this job is all about confidence!

    But, if you REALLY cannot do it sober then it isn't the job for you. I just wanted you to know that theres a possibility you're going thru the same thing I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol1337a View Post
    I always misinterpreted the meaning of "Don't do the job if you can't do it sober" to mean something more along the lines of "If you have to drink to become a stripper you're not cut out for it," rather than a more liberal "Your health is more important than doing this particular job."
    This distinction is very, very important.

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    Hindsight is 20/20, but I never gave it much thought because I thought I was in the clear. Don't fall prey to mindless hubris, ladies.

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    Hey Flickdreams, is there a way you can copy/paste the sticky? When I click on the link it says I don't have sufficient privileges to access that page

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoRico View Post
    Hey Flickdreams, is there a way you can copy/paste the sticky? When I click on the link it says I don't have sufficient privileges to access that page
    Interesting...try this again?: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...n-the-industry

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoRico View Post
    Hey Flickdreams, is there a way you can copy/paste the sticky? When I click on the link it says I don't have sufficient privileges to access that page
    Interesting...try this again?: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...n-the-industry

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    I would love to have a buzz at work, sadly I cannot quite yet.
    I'm a socially awkward certified weirdo.. not to mention clumsy especially in 6 inch heels.. so if I can hustle without getting drunk, so can you or anybody lol. I'm on 'hiatus' right now but back when I was working, I could fake a lot of shit from niceness, to horniness, to whatever the hell I needed to be to get my money. I just noticed that there are 3 pages of replies so you probably got all the answers you need, so this is just my two cents I suppose.

    I'll add this, I used to drink a lot at home (especially over this summer when my ex-bf gave me 7 bottles of liquor to stock up on) but my skin looked awful, and I felt dumb, groggy and sleepy, even though I hardly ever drank to excess, I was just catching a buzz too. Everyone says if you can't do this job sober it's not for you, but that's probably something you need to figure out for yourself.
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    I used to rely heavily on drinking to make money. as someone who is a lightweight, i would get pretty much plastered. im the kind of person who can't stop while they are drinking and often passed my threshold in which I can be a really nasty person. Honestly, drinking has had so much negative impact on me, and it was making me depressed and sick. So i decided i was going to stop. I figured it would be best to start fresh at a new club where I could relearn how to hustrle sober. i began looking at this industry as a business and not just a party. i tell myself everyday not to take anything personally, im not going to be every guy's cup of tea, and it has worked for me. after getting over the initial anxiety and seeing i can make money when sober i have definitely gained more confidence in myself and am working more on increasing my sales rather then being a part of a party and my earning have increased significantly. Its tough but once you can do this job without relying on alcohol it will make the world of difference.

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