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    I recently moved into a new apartment and there aren't any ceiling lights. The bit-rate on SM goes crazy if it's too dim, unless I use the lower or medium encoder settings. I don't want my bit-rate to go nuts but I also want my room to look like a bedroom and not like a porn set. Does anyone who cams on SM with the encoder and without ceiling lights have any advice for a good set-up? One that looks like actual bedroom lighting and not like a porn set-up? And doesn't make the bit-rate go nuts? Maybe I'm asking too much, haha ...

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    I hate ceiling lights. Not the most flattering lighting.

    I use gooseneck lamps with Reveal bulbs (3 of them, off camera) arranged in the 3 point lighting diagram. They look awesome.


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    Congrats on your new place. I never cam with ceiling lights. I just use two night stands on both sides of my bed.
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    Ty. I'll try 3 lamps. One in front, and one on each side and see how that looks. I hate ceiling lights too but my bit-rate used to always go crazy if I didn't use them.

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    I use a three light tree lamp. I put it right in front of me. I think I burned my retinas by staring directly into it, so it doesn't hurt anymore. I also keep a desk light in case I'm too lazy to move to my bed, and perform on my bench.

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    Thanks, audri. That's actually the exact lamp I had before. I always had to throw it in the closet whenever someone came over because it looked super random to have in a bedroom. I thought it looked okay until the guy I'm seeing asked me if I'm running a "porn studio." And my bit-rate still fucked up a lot unless I had my ceiling lights on (except during the day because the encoder likes natural window lighting). I think it's because the encoder needs lights coming from different directions. So I'm going to try 3 different lamps and see how that works.

    If I can make my room look like a bedroom and not like a studio, while keeping my lighting appropriate for the encoder, I'll post back. For now, I'll probably just keep things at medium settings until I'm able to order a couple more bedside lamps and position it like I talked about in my last post. (not even sure how that will work/look, but I'm going to try it).

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    Also, I had the exact same problem with that three light lamp burning my eyes. I had to put it DIRECTLY in front of me to keep everything going smooth. I recommend buying a light dimmer! I still had to put the lamp directly in front of me, but keeping the light low using the dimmer saved my eyeballs and didn't affect the bit-rate (even when I kept it very dim). It was great. If I didn't care about my bedroom looking porn-ish, I would totally buy that lamp again. I might just give in and buy it again, and throw it in the closet whenever someone comes over if my other lighting idea doesn't work out. Ugh. :/

    I think I'm the only person who has this sensitive of an encoder haha :/ Unless I have lighting coming from all different directions, it seems to fuck up! At my old place, I had a three light lamp in front of me, a table lamp behind me, and my overhead lights on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    I recently moved into a new apartment and there aren't any ceiling lights. The bit-rate on SM goes crazy if it's too dim, unless I use the lower or medium encoder settings. I don't want my bit-rate to go nuts but I also want my room to look like a bedroom and not like a porn set. Does anyone who cams on SM with the encoder and without ceiling lights have any advice for a good set-up? One that looks like actual bedroom lighting and not like a porn set-up? And doesn't make the bit-rate go nuts? Maybe I'm asking too much, haha ...
    If you don't want to light up your room with studio lights then go with floor lamps that have a movable arm on them. Honestly the light doesn't really make a difference on how your room might look its the type of furniture you put into it.
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    I use three decorative lamps when I don't have ceiling lights. Sometimes I use my boyfriends photography lights (incredible lighting) but they get SO hot and make me sweat so I don't like doing that. Also those look very porn studio lol but I'm pretty sure everyone knows we do porn so I don't worry too much about it lol.
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    If you don't want to light up your room with studio lights then go with floor lamps that have a movable arm on them. Honestly the light doesn't really make a difference on how your room might look its the type of furniture you put into it.
    Yeah, your right. I'm going to try to find a white or pink floor lamp and try to fit it in with the theme of my room. It was probably the placement that made me bedroom look like a porn studio. I think I'm going to try a table lamp on my nightstand behind me, then a tri bulb floor lamp in front of me, and see how that works! Thanks everyone! I've never cammed without ceiling lights so I was unsure how I was going to make this work but now I'm picturing a layout in my head, and now I see why my old bedroom looked like a porn studio. The floor lamp just looked super out of place I think because I put it in a weird place, and black didn't go with the theme of my room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    Yeah, your right. I'm going to try to find a white or pink floor lamp and try to fit it in with the theme of my room. It was probably the placement that made me bedroom look like a porn studio. I think I'm going to try a table lamp on my nightstand behind me, then a tri bulb floor lamp in front of me, and see how that works! Thanks everyone! I've never cammed without ceiling lights so I was unsure how I was going to make this work but now I'm picturing a layout in my head, and now I see why my old bedroom looked like a porn studio. The floor lamp just looked super out of place I think because I put it in a weird place, and black didn't go with the theme of my room.

    You really do not need lights at all in the camera view in fact if you can keep them out of your camera view the better. its about wottage and placement not being seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    You really do not need lights at all in the camera view in fact if you can keep them out of your camera view the better. its about wottage and placement not being seen.
    Yeah, I agree they look better not in view. I was talking about how it looks in real life.

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    Lol. Did you move to my building? Because I have the same exact issue. I asked my manager about it and they said the building was built in the time period where "dim lighting" was fashionable haha. As far as camming goes I actually just have one lamp in my bedroom about 5 feet away from me and I just took the lampshade off. I was super surprised at first buy my lighting is actually really good.

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    I dunna what kind of bulbs you're using but you might want to try brighter bulbs as well. I think 100 watt fluorescent daylight bulbs are what's suppose to be used for photography and videos if you don't want to or can't use pro lights.

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    That's weird that anyone would say a standing lamp with three directional bulbs is a porn lamp. WTF? It's not professional-looking lighting in the slightest. Men know next to nothing about interior decorating. If you just said, what the hell are you talking about and laughed it off he probably would have thought nothing of it again. Maybe something like this? It looks kind of cuter and more girlie for a bedroom http://www.amazon.com/Home-Floor-5-A...le++floor+lamp

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    ^ He was my roommates boyfriend and I was dating his brother and they both knew I used to cam (so I'll admit he was kind of biased). But a guy I brought home before that mentioned the lamp and said it looked out of place too. And after thinking about it, it was the color of the lamp and the location. It was black (the rest of my room was pink) and I put it in the corner of the room next to my patio door which looked strange but I didn't know where else to put it. Plus I just don't like the look of a black floor lamp in the corner of the room. But Im going to look for a white or pink one and put it near my vanity. I think that will look good, and non porn-like + work for the encoder lighting. I just want it to feel like a home, not like a porn set but now that I'm picturing it in my head I think I've figured out a set-up that will work with the encoder and not look like a porn studio.
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    And thanks, Sophia. I decided on a floor lamp in front and a table lamp in back. I'm going to buy one similar to that but in a different color.

    Sorry guys. I've been up all night so if this sounds like a bunch of jabber I'm sorry, but it makes sense in my head!
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    I had this problem as well in my apartment. I just found a swag lamp (hanging lamp that looks like a light fixture) and hung it in the center of the ceiling.

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    I'm not really sure how I'd hang one up without ruining the ceiling?

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    Personally I don't use the ceiling lights. Overhead lights cast shadows and make you look terrible. There are professional umbrella lights you can use and can store them in a closet when you're done.

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    All the talk about ceiling lights got me thinking. I wanted to get rid of my lighting because it takes up too much space. I tried regular lamps but I don't like the lighting. This thread lead me to the idea of track lighting with fluorescent bulbs, I have no idea what the lighting will be like with them but I'm going to give it a try.

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    My man shares like half my closet with me and would be like "wtf" if I had lights in there. I never really liked the idea of umbrella lights anyway. I like something simple that doesn't require much set up. Right now im using table lamps. It's not the best, especially because my pink bulbs don't fit in them. But yeah, it works for now I guess, lol. I don't have much in furniture or lamps but after the holidays im going to invest in something else ... Lol.

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    Ceiling lights age you ten years. It is literally the MOST unflattering light ever. It also makes the room look and feel cheaper.

    Lamps. http://www.amazon.com/Ikea-301-841-7...keywords=lamps

    Now if you are using lamps with adjustable arms and pointing directly at your face hurting your eyes leads to headaches and migraines. Bounce them all the wall behind your computer & web cam. It is a softer light, and more effective flattering effect.

    Lights should always if you can manage it behind your web cam evenly placed at both sides of it. Say you cam at a desk. Place a lamp on either side of it. And maybe if you can get away with it one behind it at eye level. NONE of them should be higher than your head.

    White or light walls bounce & reflect the light better than dark ones , but can cause double shadows behind you. That double, even triple shadow is a major major no no on any video or pics with professionals.

    Dark walls NO NO NO NO NO NO NO they can absorb All the light & destroy any benefit of lights. My best friend got married in this huge beautiful lodge in the mountains near Vegas. I heard that wedding photographer cuss & cuss. ALL the walls, despite the floor to ceiling windows were dark green. No matter how many lights he put up, the dark green ate it. Unless you have more experience, more training with how to perfect light a set for video... don't do it.

    I can't tell you the difference good lighting makes in pics, videos and camming feed. Once you play with it, experiment with it, you will see. In Hollywood, back in the day, the first person on a set to get fucked by the star NO matter how big of a star she was, always the lighting guy. Not the director, not the leading male actor. The lighting guy. They didn't have the ability to fix such things in post preduction. Lighting could make your more glamourous, glow, look younger or it could age you, EVERY stars nightmare.

    NO matter what lamp you use replace the bulb with these
    http://www.amazon.com/StudioPRO-Prof...lighting+bulbs

    Even the mere tinge other bulbs give off but you may not see makes a difference. Now, the life of these kind of bulbs are Soooo much longer than when I started. $35 for one bulb that was only good for 10 hours. I've seen them greatly come down in price and last much much longer. But, do try to turn them off & only use when camming.

    The best light is sunlight. If you cam during the day try to place your computer infront of a big window in a room that doesn't have direct sun light.


    I love where I live. I have 100 inches sliding glass doors in both bedrooms and living room that don't get direct sunlight. Never have I had an issue with obvious shadows behind me.

    Turn on your cam & see how you look with over head lighting. Then just use the lamps like I told you with regular bulbs. Next put in the bulbs I put a link in this thread. You will be amazed at the results.

    Just making this kind of investment really increases the quality of the cam feed.

    Good luck,
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    With a mere flip of a switch I can go from old, tired looking hag to young glamorous sex kitten.

    NOW you will never see a single pic or video of me in unflattering light. Trust me on this.

    I know lighting. I studied it.
    I read book after book about it. I have been on porn shoot for some of the biggest directors in porn, legends, avn award winning. Within the first 5 pics I will tell them if their lighting is to dark or bright, they check & I am always right.
    I'm not reading their meters, I don't see the pic on their camera.
    I know. It literally instinct for me at this point. What does Tyra always screaming at those Top model contestants "find the light."

    You can be the youngest fresh face most beautiful girl on cam and lighting can cost you a lot of profits if it is bad.

    If you are a black model/cam performer EVEN more important. If wearing white & have a dark skin tone, the camera adjusts for the lightest color & can make the girl not the focus. Hence why even Oprah says black people never wear white on camera. The ability to adjust and make it work has greatly increased over the past 10 years.

    Filming interracial scene is a nightmare. It has to be lit for the darkest skin tone, which can blow out the person with the lightest skin tone. Hard to adjust and fix in post production.

    Now when a black person is lit right, whether it be for pics or video, it is amazing, gorgeous, jaw dropping. Totally jealous, if they don't have any blemishes them they don't need a single drop of makeup to look incredible. Take me an hour to paint my face and be camera ready.

    Sadly most people filming porn don't take the time to learn proper lighting, to learn how to adjust for different skin tones of all races. They have no pride, no knowledge. Sadly all they are concerned with is getting their dicks sucked.
    I know many many directors & camera guys in porn for every major porn company and can tell you only a very few went to film school or actually learned photography. They have no passion, appreciation or love for the art of film making itself.

    Any and all efforts made in pre-production even live video feed greatly improves the quality & earning potential. Never ever be afraid even on a limited budget to go for that in this biz. A limited budget creates an atmosphere of never fear, to experiment, to do things by trail and error rather than some text book some guy wrote telling you how to do everything the most expensive way. Talent, imagination, creativity being willing to give it a try is way more important than how much money you spent.

    I learn and laugh at my mistakes & failures all the times.

    Here is where my ego comes into play. I don't want to be average, I want to be a STAR when on camera NO matter when, where or how. I am the biggest book worm/nerd turn that camera on & I immediately switch gears so I can shine bright. When I am dressed up, when I walk into a room, a busy club ALL EYES ARE ON ME! Even before I did porn, when people saw me years later came up to tell me how the met me, saw me dancing on a coffee table at frat party in college. It was always "Your that girl". If I can get that STAR quality by turning on a switch of a camera to help me out shine my competition. FUCK YES!

    Camming is a highly competitive market. To make the big bucks you have to cam on big box sites, you have thousands of other girls competing with you. The higher I get you to raise your game, more I have to raise mine. I love it. Our competition drives us to be better at our jobs and thus we all make more $$$$. I set the standard high for my niche & try to pull up my competition to that level I set. So then I can get to another level and raise it again. Not going to lie, it's fun for me. We can all race to the bottom or the top.

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