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    I have probably been working a week now. Had a couple decent days, a few craptastic ones. I have been dancing talking, moving around, stroking a dildo, etc...Is this just because I am new? I keep reading not to get discouraged and quit because that is how it is at first. I guess I just need some positive words. I won't give up but I just want to be told it won't be like this forever. I know a week is not nearly enough time to built up clients. I have a few guys do privates and they haven't been back, is that normal? Maybe I am doing something wrong, I don't know. Ugh sorry, I needed to vent frustrations. I know persistence is how you make it, it's just hard I guess.

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    Couple of decent days, couple of craptastic ones - sometimes that's how this business is. You will probably do more consistently better when you get some regulars.

    Sometimes you can do too much in free chat and they just sit there and get entertained without spending a dime. It does take time to perfect your hustle. It would help to know what site you are on and do you prefer privates or did you want to do things for tips?


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    Default Re: I need some encouragement...

    I am on MFC. It's been very hard to predict. I keep hearing to be entertaining but don't do too much, so I guess I am a little confused. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francessca96 View Post
    I am on MFC. It's been very hard to predict. I keep hearing to be entertaining but don't do too much, so I guess I am a little confused. lol
    It means, entertain them with your personality and charm...you don't have to show off your body too much and give too much away for free. Just be yourself and the rest will fall into place. Doesn't hurt to try other sites if you're not making what you want on one site though. Maybe sign up for some others and see which works best for you and your hustle

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    Let me guess, never held down a sales job & got to hone those skills?

    Welcome to the Big Wide World of Camming.

    You just took on a straight up sales jobs. No, base pay, you ONLY make money based upon your ability to close the deal.

    Not only a straight up sales job, but the site that only the most evolved sales people find success. It is a beast all of it's own kind.

    There are no slow days, there are days were you are not closing the deal as much as others. What you are doing is a hit and miss kind thing. Got to be more creative than that to stand out and make money. Good thing, on MFC there are a million ways to do it. Every time you log on is a trail and error to figure out what works & what doesn't. How much you make at each attempt is your instant feed back.

    Cam site customers LOVE new girls and training you into to doing it all for free. At this point in time they are better at closing the deal than you are for NO MONEY or very little with leading you on in empty promises of making more. Learn how to flip that script around & have fun doing it for you and them.

    Consider what works for a girl in the top 10 on that sites DOES NOT work for a newbie. She put in the time, the work, the hustle to get there.

    Good luck,
    Sam

    The one and only variable that you can change in this is YOU! All the different types of cam customers will never change, the beggars, haters, shamers, time wasters, game players, spenders & the holy grail THE WHALE. AT anytime any of them can change from one to the other based upon your sales skills.

    Go study other girls hustles in the middle of the first page on MFC. Brainstorm & come up with ways to improve, try, put a new twist on what obviously worked for them.

    READ books on how to SELL!

    They come to YOU to be entertained, now sometimes you get one or several who really make it fun, flirt, tip, spend money & help you make more money off of others. That site is dick measuring site. My dick/WALLET is bigger than yours, they thrive on it. More you can get to compete against eachother the better. Ever wonder why the girls on there GuSH, CRY, OvER react to a big tip????? Cause those guys eat it up. They want your attention, to be your focus all over the other men in the room. Soon, the other guys will pony up some money to be that guy or at least take some of his shine away. Then he has to tip you again to get it.

    Now, during that time. Many guest, basics will be begging, pleading, hating, name calling, professing love for FREE attention. At first, you chat them up, get them all talking and to liven up the room, when they get to be to much is when you turn that off. Thus training them to get some tokens and join the big boys. Never discount them, or turn off them being able to chat in your room at first, never know which one might become your big spender.


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    You NEVER log on just to chat, visit, you are also on to hustle. Now, many girls use that tactic successful on that site. "I'm here just to have fun. I'm not like the other girls on here & after your money. Who me hustle, I'd never stoop that low." Props to those girls that pull that off and BANK! Those gals are Olympic Gold Medal kind of cam girls. Meanwhile, you a newbie are watching them rake in the money & telling yourself what a loser you are when you try it and don't make money. Don't be fooled, those girls make camming and banking look easy. That is the HARDEST hustle to pull off on cam. Those girls would be a top sales person NO MATTER where they worked.

    Here are some suggestions. Flash for tips. Set an amount, say 50 tokens for tits, if your ass better than your tits more for it. Got sexy feet, NEVER ever show them for FREE require a tip.
    There are unlimited possibilities you can come up with for that list to post on a regular bases on your free chat feed.

    Set a tipping goal. Since you are new at this, all those tips for flashing and what not, are building towards a goal, a reward. Topless in free chat, nude, nude oil show, sucking the toy, fucking the toy. Work up to the first one I wrote, then they can work their way up to the next one. Now this can take HOURS to reach the first goal. Got to be prepared to put the time in at one time.

    The up sell. The lovely money making up sell. We have all learned to love & master the up sell. Go to many cam girls on there pages. Check out their personal page of up sells.
    Videos, pics, phone numbers, email address, follow them back on twitter, open their cam in free chat, private message with them in free chat, snap chat, dirty panties. AT any time at all times on cam you can be doing the up sell.


    NEVER EVER ACCEPT PAYPAL. They will insist on it, badger you like crazy, tell you how much money you are missing out on. Any time they type in SKYPE, what's your skype name, can we skype... I'll pay you by paypal then you can keep all the money and pass on the savings to me of mfc site gets. RED ALERT RED ALERT RED ALERT. PAY PAL Hates any and all adult transactions. I know you wonder how they will ever find out. That guy who begged who promised you much much money, who may even sent you lots of money for skype shows on Skype. 80% or more of the time a month maybe up to months. REVERSE all the money he sent you. He will tell them that you did it for a a sexy skype show. They will go into your bank account and take all that money back legally. It is in their TOS, they may even take up to $500 more as a fine. He can also do it to get your real name, real address to stalk or blackmail you.
    If you do it, if you are willing to skype, ask for tokens, a certain amount of tokens before even giving them your skype name. This will piss most of them off, send them in a tizzy of how stupid you are and how you will never make money.

    Many newbies are nice girls. They think, it is rude to ask for money for tips, to demand them. No, it isn't. It's commerce. It is you actually doing SALES! Now there are many funny flirty ways each girl has to develop that works for her.


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    That is a good idea about reading sales books. Didn't think of that. I had a job selling purses for comission and did all right, but that's about it.

    I have been watching a lot of girls on mfc, around the middle of the page. I have seen a lot of them just sitting there. I also saw advice to get guys in your room to dance a little. Did that, then when I stop to talk to them, the room clears. I also have heard advice that too much talking will clear a room too. Should I greet every premium and guest that comes in the room? Should I focus the conversation on all things sexy? I tried reading erotic literature, it might have helped a little to get a pvt. Is that giving away too much? Sorry I have so may questions. I refuse to get discouraged and give up, I'm a STAHM and don't want to pay for daycare. Would rather work at home and contribute to my household so I have to make this work. I always have given up on everything but not this time. I think I'm a bit introverted and like ADD and I think it is working against me. I almost wish I could type to members instead.

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    Sam, I have been pondering giving MFC a try, and you are right.. it takes time to build a fan base. I can see that and can be willing to do that. Those top girls didn't get that status overnight. I'm sure it took months if not years of hard work. Also, I tend to look down a few pages for a more realistic "right now" version of what it could possibly be. I look in the bbw category on MFC since I'm a bbw. There really aren't very many bbw's on MFC.

    In my mind, I think MFC can be a great "niche" site if you have a niche you want to pull off. The thing is, you gotta find your niche. Plus, most of those top girls have really cool personalities. I wonder if they are mentally drained at the end of their shows. lol Anyhoo, thanks for this post. You really gave me some stuff to think about. I have a niche-ish thing I'd like to try and the only thing I can think of is either MFC shows or Gold shows on SM for it. But I gotta get gold show status first on SM. Anyway, thanks again. $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francessca96 View Post
    That is a good idea about reading sales books. Didn't think of that. I had a job selling purses for comission and did all right, but that's about it.

    I have been watching a lot of girls on mfc, around the middle of the page. I have seen a lot of them just sitting there. I also saw advice to get guys in your room to dance a little. Did that, then when I stop to talk to them, the room clears. I also have heard advice that too much talking will clear a room too. Should I greet every premium and guest that comes in the room? Should I focus the conversation on all things sexy? I tried reading erotic literature, it might have helped a little to get a pvt. Is that giving away too much? Sorry I have so may questions. I refuse to get discouraged and give up, I'm a STAHM and don't want to pay for daycare. Would rather work at home and contribute to my household so I have to make this work. I always have given up on everything but not this time. I think I'm a bit introverted and like ADD and I think it is working against me. I almost wish I could type to members instead.
    I've seen ladies doing cooking shows, baking shows, moving furniture shows, etc on MFC. The other night one of my fave models I like to watch was frosting cookies X-rated style and raffling them off to her fans. Lol There's so much you can do just being a STAHM and make your wifely duties and such make money for you. You could really pull off that niche probably. A vision I have in my head is you dressed up in a 1950s dress, cleaning the house, making the guys tip you for peeks. LOL I dunno, I'm crazy sometimes with my thoughts.

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    Hahahaha! That is a good idea. I though about being all sexy and folding laundry lolol. Idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francessca96 View Post
    That is a good idea about reading sales books. Didn't think of that. I had a job selling purses for comission and did all right, but that's about it.

    I have been watching a lot of girls on mfc, around the middle of the page. I have seen a lot of them just sitting there. I also saw advice to get guys in your room to dance a little. Did that, then when I stop to talk to them, the room clears. I also have heard advice that too much talking will clear a room too. Should I greet every premium and guest that comes in the room? Should I focus the conversation on all things sexy? I tried reading erotic literature, it might have helped a little to get a pvt. Is that giving away too much? Sorry I have so may questions. I refuse to get discouraged and give up, I'm a STAHM and don't want to pay for daycare. Would rather work at home and contribute to my household so I have to make this work. I always have given up on everything but not this time. I think I'm a bit introverted and like ADD and I think it is working against me. I almost wish I could type to members instead.

    Never take your eyes your attention off of your room

    Emoting. Look directly into the cam. I mean major eye contact break the 4th wall. Now, you aren't looking into the camera.. you are looking into their souls. You know they want you and all that money in their pockets is yours. Practice it in a mirror. It may feel weird, look silly, but it works.

    You know every single naughty secret that has ever crossed their minds. I've made professional porn jaded directors drop their cameras with that look when filming.

    Film yourself doing it, just on the eyes. Play it back. You will be mesmerized.

    No matter how good of a dancer you are, you zoned out You went on auto pilot more worried about what moves looked the sexiest. You lost focus. Try that look aka emoting while doing a sexy slow little dance, a sway of a hip, a shimmy that makes your boobs bounce in a tempting way under your clothes.

    We are all a bit of an introvert and extrovert. Developing each one of them so they benefit us the most in life is a good thing.

    NO typing. Men don't go to cam sites to see a girl hovering over key board typing away. BORING. They have the option to go many free tube sites with thousands and thousands of every kind of porn scene. They come to cam sites to connect, to interact with a lovely female.

    A good flirt is with their weight in gold. Many sites to read up on how to be a good flirt. Reading erotic literature trains your brain to think sexy, it is a well known top seller for females, not men, but us. Reading it affects our brains like porn or boobs does theirs. I probably read 500 romance books before I reached 16. Haven't been able to read one ever since. Even though one of my good friends Tony was Mr. Romance and on so many romance book covers. We both used to be strippers in Dallas, back in the day.

    If reading them helps you get to that zone, then read away. Do a bit before you go on cam.

    Sexy, flirty, funny, bitchy,dirty, good girl, bad girl, Dominate, arrogant( me, my top tag on Sm) it is up to each one of them fits you best, that plays to your strengths and you can easily slip into mentally before turning on a cam. Trying to be the opposite, especially to separate your real life from your work life is often what most girls try to do. That is work to maintain and be in character for any length of time on cam.

    Hell, I'm not that good of an actress. I can't act at all. There will never be a day were I can cam and NOT tell someone to fuck off. But, then another guy will take me exclusive for verbal abuse and humiliation. How you see me on cam is me 24/7.

    Good luck,
    Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessaBelle View Post
    Sam, I have been pondering giving MFC a try, and you are right.. it takes time to build a fan base. I can see that and can be willing to do that. Those top girls didn't get that status overnight. I'm sure it took months if not years of hard work. Also, I tend to look down a few pages for a more realistic "right now" version of what it could possibly be. I look in the bbw category on MFC since I'm a bbw. There really aren't very many bbw's on MFC.

    In my mind, I think MFC can be a great "niche" site if you have a niche you want to pull off. The thing is, you gotta find your niche. Plus, most of those top girls have really cool personalities. I wonder if they are mentally drained at the end of their shows. lol Anyhoo, thanks for this post. You really gave me some stuff to think about. I have a niche-ish thing I'd like to try and the only thing I can think of is either MFC shows or Gold shows on SM for it. But I gotta get gold show status first on SM. Anyway, thanks again. $$$

    Then go be the first. I love mfc, but it is a time consuming site to make it on there. As in you have to be on cam for 2 to 6 hours to bank. After a year of the worst allergies ever, I can't do that. My energy level to pull it off successfully isn't there. Now have walking pneumonia and all my post on here for the past 2 days. This sucks.

    Better hurry up and go for it. Cause when I do set my mind to it I will..... Camming or filming is a high energy output for me. I put my all mentally, emotionally, creatively into it. There is a satisfaction, a confidence you get in being the first one when others haven't in your niche on a site.

    Boring is your enemy. I've seen some crazy bitch's singing cartoon show songs, cussing guys out for not getting into it and her skipping from song to song and back again like a lunatic. Now, I know for a fact she is BANANAS! in real life too. She was NOT boring, she was making good money and playing up to her strengths. Hell, I almost signed up and gave her money. That train wreck was amazing.

    It isn't the size of your ass, the color of your skin, it is your hustle, your personality, your ability to entertain when men in free chat are giving you Nothing good to play off of.

    Gold shows are good, but it isn't the answer to making money. Seen many girls never make goal, never even had a chance to make goal with zero, $1, $3 shows and fucking every hole in it. Getting gold show status isn't the magical solution to making money on cam. It can be a useful tool, but not a miracle.
    I use it once or twice a day to farm and get my next big spender, my whales from it. I shake my tits & ass in it , no fucking, no anal. But my hustle, my emoting has them coming back for more & spending money on me in private and exclusive.

    Very few models make it there main money making thing on Sm. And we all know the 2 girls, I'm talking about. Damn, those girls are hustlers & good.

    Now, as a bbw or girl not in the top 10.... getting together with another model. Film one day, make a bunch of clips, then edit, watermark that night and upload on dropbox or whatever. The next day hit the cam sites hard. You do gold show after gold show using those videos to get way more money. Example: $6 for 10 minutes, a goal of $300. If they tip in $20 they get all these videos you did the day before. Never seen, fresh new stuff.

    You can pull in $600 to $1000 each in a day. Turn around put those same videos up on c4s and every other place you can sell them. Now, think of what you can make in a few days of camming together? Do get approval to work on eachothers cams beforehand like a week or so. YOU can NOT work both your accounts at the same time on Sm. Your happy, she's happy, the customers are REALLY happy. A win win win situation all the way around.

    On MFC team up with another model. You can both be logged onto each of your cam accounts. Oh, so many ways to hustle in free chat with another girl & BANK. I had a guy take me & the other model exclusive on there on both of our accounts. Paying out $16 per minute. Now, this was one of her regulars. How she could call him that after only making $5 off of him in a year yet chatting with him each and everyday on there is beyond me. Took me all of 3 minutes to get him in exclusive or whatever they call it on there with both of us.

    Here she had this high roller and never pushed him for money. Me that is just unfathomable.

    Take no prisoners.

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    You have no idea the power you have in your eyes, in your mere thoughts until you totally commit to it.

    Be present, in the moment.

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    You make me giggle and smile. Thank you, Sam.

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    Sam, you rock. I looked into the camera and smiled and justvkinda danced sexy in my chair and I got the room to 60 and I told a good story thelat got people talking and asking questions. I may be on to something. You have great advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    You have no idea the power you have in your eyes, in your mere thoughts until you totally commit to it.

    Be present, in the moment.
    The eyes are the window to the soul...
    so fill your mind with the bombshell sex kitten you are... the woman men never say no to... the woman that men fall in love with just by a glance... the woman who owns her body AND THEIRS and knows it...
    Don't just dream it, believe/be it. Sell it with your eyes, sell with your soul, be the bombshell, and they'll see the bombshell with just one look into your perfect mesmerizing eyes...
    you will own them with one deep stare.... because thats all it takes, and you just have to know it.

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