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    Default How long can someone realisticly cam full time for? Is camming your only income??

    I have been making plans to make a huge move to california with my boyfriend to rent a house. To say the least I am stressed out, but I am extremely excited to move away from the place I am stuck,

    I have been taking camming extremely seriously these past few days and I have some questions that keep popping into my head like are there any of you here that plan on camming permanently? how long do you think a person is capable of camming age wise? is there a foreseeable problem with camming that will make it obsolete ?

    I plan on basically supporting myself and boyfriend solely on camming while he figures out what he is going to do. I have never had much financial responsibility and it is amazing how only 4 months of camming has allowed me to begin looking at houses!!

    Does anyone else buy / rent houses just from camming alone?

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    I live from webcam money for over 7 years, but this year really bad for me. No, webcam not only income i have, i sell things online and i have my c4s store. You never know when you will get a slow days, weeks, or month/s, or you may get life complications, or you can get sick, or some problem with a payment processor. So if you depend only on one income it could be extremely stressful thats it. And time passes you have not done anything else beside camming.

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    In terms of the amount of money you can make, why the hell not?

    Camming doesn't have to be seen as some kind of odd-job. If you treat it like a career it can be a career and you can make great money.

    I think there was a thread about the personal questions you're asking a while back, but for me personally, I plan on camming for at least the next 15 years (I'll be 40 then) until my husband retires (if he retires at 60 as he hopes he will) and then possibly after that, because I'll only be 40. And he might join me for couples shows then too!

    One of the top row ladies on SM is 52 (and she's cool as fuck). There's totally a market for camgirls at 70 as well. Just, you know, be gentle on your body as you get older, but 70yo women use dildos all the time, so why not make money on it if you want?

    We get to work from home. We get to take breaks to snuggle our dogs and drink tea and do laundry. We get to wear as much or as little as we want. We get to work as little or as much as we want. That sounds like a kickass part time retirement gig. On a beach in goddamn Kauai!
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    Well, if none of us are renting or buying houses, then we must be dildo-ing ourselves in the street! :-P

    I'll be going as long as I can. There's lots of women in their 40s doing great on SM, and in their 50s. I've seen a 60 plus woman on the front page too.

    I do want to get back into videos and phone sex though to diversify and have more "passive income" through clip sales. I'd also love to get more into affiliate sales online, beyond the cammodel link. I can only imagine what girls have rolling in who were posting their cammodel link when it first started... Sigh!

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    How much do you make now? Don't tell me, but be realistic with yourself.

    Why isn't he working? Why do you need to support him? Does he have the skills, the personality to get a good job? Or is he coming along and you paying the way to keep from being lonely?
    So now you are his sugar momma, that rarely turns out well.

    I know gals in their 60s and 70s making 6 figures camming.

    Why isn't he on a computer, learning the basics of html, everything to do with online marketing and the porn biz and cam biz affiliate marketing? Not only can he be making money, but helping to drive traffic to your camming so you can be making more money. He should be putting in 60 hours a week at it.


    Here you have this untapped resource who can be doing things I have to do for myself at it full time and you don't.... Why? Why aren't you sucking his dick on camera and using those videos to make more money? Oh, it's okay for you to be out their risking it all, but not him?

    For that fact, why isn't he on cam, jacking off for horny men and making money? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Why aren't you to filming every chance you get to do c4s and such? Him learning the skills to light, video, edit, market and the other things one needs to learn to get the most out of this biz.

    Why does he get a free pass and you be the one doing all the work? NO dick is that good. I can say that after being with the best male performers in porn that have made me come 100 times in one scene. NO dick is sooooo good that I would support a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvnrockets View Post
    In terms of the amount of money you can make, why the hell not?

    Camming doesn't have to be seen as some kind of odd-job. If you treat it like a career it can be a career and you can make great money.

    I think there was a thread about the personal questions you're asking a while back, but for me personally, I plan on camming for at least the next 15 years (I'll be 40 then) until my husband retires (if he retires at 60 as he hopes he will) and then possibly after that, because I'll only be 40. And he might join me for couples shows then too!

    One of the top row ladies on SM is 52 (and she's cool as fuck). There's totally a market for camgirls at 70 as well. Just, you know, be gentle on your body as you get older, but 70yo women use dildos all the time, so why not make money on it if you want?

    We get to work from home. We get to take breaks to snuggle our dogs and drink tea and do laundry. We get to wear as much or as little as we want. We get to work as little or as much as we want. That sounds like a kickass part time retirement gig. On a beach in goddamn Kauai!
    LOL you are so cute and right. My 9 month old puppy is so used to me not really wearing clothing that when I do, she gets upset and tries to pull it off. But I live in Miami, no more than a sundress needed even in public.

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    At this rate, I'll be camming until they find me slumped over my computer, and webcam!
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    Your boyfriend is "figuring out what he's going to do"? What did he do before he met you? How about work at the local gas station if he has to? He should be making some money, even if it's minimum wage! There's no reason you can't cam for years, but supporting 2 people by camming is going to wear you out in no time!

    There will be days, sometimes even weeks when the traffic just isn't there. What happens then? I would definitely start doing videos too, post them on several sites. I'm on a few different sites and there's no better feeling then waking up and realizing you made money while you were sleeping! He can help with this stuff....for me b/g and fetish sells better then vanilla solo girl stuff.

    I'm 43. Im also at the point where cramming doesn't feel like it's worth it anymore. Well, sitting on cam waiting for shows isn't worth it.........I only want to cam for a show and be done. Back in my 30s I would sit on cam for 5 hours at a time. I still make the same amount when I do that.......I just have no desire now. We all burn out from time to time. In my 20s I stripped 7 hours a day, so I'm not against work and love money. I just hit my burn out point a lot sooner at this age. So yeah, you can cam as long as you want....there is still demand for older women, it's just harder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison Lynne View Post
    Your boyfriend is "figuring out what he's going to do"? What did he do before he met you? How about work at the local gas station if he has to? He should be making some money, even if it's minimum wage! There's no reason you can't cam for years, but supporting 2 people by camming is going to wear you out in no time!

    There will be days, sometimes even weeks when the traffic just isn't there. What happens then? I would definitely start doing videos too, post them on several sites. I'm on a few different sites and there's no better feeling then waking up and realizing you made money while you were sleeping! He can help with this stuff....for me b/g and fetish sells better then vanilla solo girl stuff.

    I'm 43. Im also at the point where cramming doesn't feel like it's worth it anymore. Well, sitting on cam waiting for shows isn't worth it.........I only want to cam for a show and be done. Back in my 30s I would sit on cam for 5 hours at a time. I still make the same amount when I do that.......I just have no desire now. We all burn out from time to time. In my 20s I stripped 7 hours a day, so I'm not against work and love money. I just hit my burn out point a lot sooner at this age. So yeah, you can cam as long as you want....there is still demand for older women, it's just harder.
    Not harder my darling, we just tolerate the BS less and less since we know it is such a waste of time for no money.

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    LOL! What kind of puppy? Mine is almost 5 months old!
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    LOL you are so cute and right. My 9 month old puppy is so used to me not really wearing clothing that when I do, she gets upset and tries to pull it off. But I live in Miami, no more than a sundress needed even in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    LOL! What kind of puppy? Mine is almost 5 months old!
    For my bday Angelina Castro gave me a half yorkie/chihuahua puppy, that is love love love happiest bundle of joy ever.

    Beware of being friends with other porn stars, you end up with more pet than you counted on. hehe

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    A real man know's who he is, what he wants in life and how to go after it.

    If you are with a man who doesn't then either you need to demand that he does so quickly or you will move on. Waiting for them to do so is years wasted that you could be with one who does.

    A man without a plan, talent, skills, determination, hard worker, and the ambition to go get those things is NOT someone you want to be attached to and enabling that behavior. Ladies, only be with men who bring you up in life, not down.

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    I am always appalled by how many worthwhile women supporting men with no ambition and the will to work. Even the felons in prison have jobs so there should be no excuses!
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    A real man know's who he is, what he wants in life and how to go after it.

    If you are with a man who doesn't then either you need to demand that he does so quickly or you will move on. Waiting for them to do so is years wasted that you could be with one who does.

    A man without a plan, talent, skills, determination, hard worker, and the ambition to go get those things is NOT someone you want to be attached to and enabling that behavior. Ladies, only be with men who bring you up in life, not down.

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    If you are with a man who doesn't then either you need to demand that he does so quickly or you will move on. Waiting for them to do so is years wasted that you could be with one who does.

    A man without a plan, talent, skills, determination, hard worker, and the ambition to go get those things is NOT someone you want to be attached to and enabling that behavior. Ladies, only be with men who bring you up in life, not down.
    I've been there, and done that, prior to ever getting involved with dancing, camming, etc. My ex was an excellent 'dreamer', but none of those lofty dreams ever took one step toward reality. And in the meantime, I was working my a$$ off to keep the lights on and the rent paid, while feeding my son Ramen noodles !

    Fortunately, I was able to 'see the light' before I wound up wasting any more of the best years of my life. And with a child involved ( yes I was once that young and that dumb ! ) , dumping the 'dead weight' also made a huge difference in my son's future opportunities as well as my own !!!

    In situations where there aren't any children, or any marriage, the decision to dump the 'dead weight' has far fewer consequences !!!

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    To the OP We cant say your guy is or isn't a loser, just that to many of us have either seen or experienced it.

    Heard so many horror stories from others in the sex biz about it.

    We are a female impowering forum, to post about supporting your man, throws us all in a tizzy.

    Don't know if he is or isn't, don't defend him. It is a warning of the pity falls with men that has and can happen.

    Obviously it is a worry of yours, or you wouldn't have mentioned it. Which is why I wrote things he could be doing.

    Good Luck,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Not harder my darling, we just tolerate the BS less and less since we know it is such a waste of time for no money.
    Good point! I'm all about maximizing income per minute now. Why spend 10 minutes camming when I can film a clip instead, put it on 4 sites and sell it 100 times over the next few months? The added bonus is not having to deal with cam freeloaders and time wasters. Definitely working smarter as I get older.

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    There are lots of bbs who plan to cam permanently. I'm not one of them but I'd like to offer you support anyway. As long as you are able, age is nothing in camming as there are categories in every age such as milf and mature. As long as there are horny men on the internet, as long as the internet exists, and as long as there is a way to pay for things over the internet, I believe camming is around to stay. Of course, anything can happen but I doubt it will unless it is to evolve. Phone sex hasn't gone anywhere and it's just as profitable.

    I've been trying to learn not to tell people what to do but here on SW we try and take care of one another. You mentioned you're stuck somewhere with dreams of California. Nice places in Cali are not cheap and I believe anyone with plans on moving there should have a plan A, B, C, and D. Just look at all the starving actors and actresses busing tables. I'm not trying to judge your boyfriend but if he's doing his part you shouldn't be stressed out. Your 40 hours and his makes 80 and will help you when shit goes sour. While he's trying to figure out what to do, perhaps it would be nice if he looks high and low for a job in the area where you guys plan to move so that you have that as a backup when things get slow for you on cam.

    It's very reasonable to put in 40+ hours on cam. However camming doesn't always give you what you put in right away. Sometimes you'll have days and weeks where you put in 40+ hours on week and bank and the next week that bank roll is cut in half. Since this happens I advise you to dip your toe in other ponds to help support yourself. Phone sex, texting, clips, etc. These things have saved my butt when I'm sitting on cam and the compliments are flowing but the money isn't. You said you've only been taking camming seriously for a few days. You need to prepare for burn out as well and find comfort in knowing that you can take a few days or a few weeks off because your boyfriend has a job and has your back financially.

    I beg you, please do not let him tag along with you without a job and a plan of his own, he's your boyfriend, not your husband. When shit hits the fan you're going to most likely feel resentment towards him while you're hauling ass in your cam room trying to pay $1500k for rent and he's on the couch playing the PS4 you bought him.

    As women, our pussies tend to dry up when a man isn't helping with bills and or working. Sometimes it's hard working full time on cam and Mr. Lazybones has been on the couch all day and then wants to have sex on top of it. Then what? Unless there's a serious reason, it's a major turn off and there's always something he can do like Sam mentioned. Figuring out what he's going to do can take years especially if he's decided he'd rather you support him instead. I have friends who've took care of their men while they were figuring things out and it wore them out. If you're willing to show your bits online for 40 hours a week, why should he have to work?

    My advice (if you want it) is to save, save, save; budget, budget, budget. Make sure he has a job lined up BEFORE you move, and make sure you have a camming schedule that will cover the bills as well. Figuring out what he wants to do? Honey, that's what his MOTHER's couch is for, not yours! If you're BOTH moving into a house he needs to pull his weight before you move. Mothers allow their grown up sons to "figure out what they want to do" for free rent, not girlfriends and spouses. This isn't a cute little cheap apartment. A house takes money to keep up. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    A real man know's who he is, what he wants in life and how to go after it.

    If you are with a man who doesn't then either you need to demand that he does so quickly or you will move on. Waiting for them to do so is years wasted that you could be with one who does.

    A man without a plan, talent, skills, determination, hard worker, and the ambition to go get those things is NOT someone you want to be attached to and enabling that behavior. Ladies, only be with men who bring you up in life, not down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I've been there, and done that, prior to ever getting involved with dancing, camming, etc. My ex was an excellent 'dreamer', but none of those lofty dreams ever took one step toward reality. And in the meantime, I was working my a$$ off to keep the lights on and the rent paid, while feeding my son Ramen noodles !

    Fortunately, I was able to 'see the light' before I wound up wasting any more of the best years of my life. And with a child involved ( yes I was once that young and that dumb ! ) , dumping the 'dead weight' also made a huge difference in my son's future opportunities as well as my own !!!

    In situations where there aren't any children, or any marriage, the decision to dump the 'dead weight' has far fewer consequences !!!
    Thank you for sharing your story, Melonie I'm glad you left when you did. I just dropped some dead weight a little over a year ago after trying to make it work for years and it has been extremely liberating. I married a guy who I thought was ambitious but after he lost everything to drug addiction I had to rely on myself. Not only was I supporting him, he had the nerve to sit there and judge HOW I made the money to pay the bills. Never again. He's now living with mommy and daddy, still no job, still no car, and still a dreamer. He now cyber stalks me with the occasional verbal abusive/I miss you email. Funny how they'll call you a whore when you were supporting them but once you leave they want you back. I guess they miss those bills being paid




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    Can I ask why you're moving to Cali if not for a job?

    I live in Cali. It's fucking pricey (and I live in one of the less expensive areas.) It's not just the rent, everything is more expensive (except some produce) and the vanilla job market is terrible because everyone wants to live and work here. I know a lot of people who moved out of California because they can't get a job here, and even more who stay (and live miserably) because they don't have the money to start over elsewhere. It's unlikely that he'll find a decent job close to whatever place you pick, too--MANY people here commute for over an hour to jobs with shitty pay. I hope you own or have money for a fuel-efficient car because gas is more expensive here too, especially come summer. And any money you two make is going to be taxed at a much higher rate than in most states.

    You have a huge advantage in that neither of you are tied to a job in any one area. I live here because I grew up here, my friends and family are here, and I missed it when I tried living elsewhere. If you're moving here for the weather (which isn't that nice, btw--I'm sitting outside with my hands half-frozen as I type this) then look at Florida or the South. If you're moving here because he wants to be an actor or something like that, don't bother, his chances aren't really any better in LA than in Bumfuck, Arkansas. If you're moving to be closer to family then consider Vegas (for SoCal) or at least a cheaper area like Sacramento (for NorCal.)

    I know this isn't what you asked but honestly moving to California is a very expensive endeavor even for one person so I felt the need to warn you. I've been supporting myself entirely through camming for almost two years now, much of that in California, and the idea of another adult being totally dependent on my earnings (effectively cutting them in half) is scary as hell and I would hate to see someone put themselves in that position without being aware of what it entails.

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    You've never had much financial responsibility, but you're thinking of becoming financially responsible hoe both you and another person?

    Wait six months, see how successful you are, then consider your options.

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    There are no guarantees in life. So it's great to say you plan on camming forever but you have to be realistic. There are definitely more people camming then let say 10 years ago and the more the word gets out about it the more people are going to jumping in and trying it.

    It is fantastic camming can you give you the financial freedom but you also have to consider the what if's when I started out camming when I was 18 I thought I would be doing it forever then I got burnt out, then I got PTSD then diagnosis with bipolar disorder, then evicted from my first apartment and almost evicted of my second apartment, I had no idea that the being diagnosis with mental illness would take a huge tole on me to navigate the health care system and find my way into recovery.
    Setting up an emergency fund is critical when you are camming, then you also need a system in place to replace it when you tap into it. Slow Day no one can predict them and when it is slow for one person doesn't mean it will be slow for you. You have to be able to adapt to the changes in your industry some will happen globally and some will happen individually.

    Sam38G - is right about your boyfriend if he isn't contributing to the household income outside of the house he needs to be contributing inside the house. In my journey of camming and doing sex work I've had been drained by exes that took advantage of freedom lifestyle of being able to work from home and make an comfortable living for myself.
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    There are no guarantees in life. So it's great to say you plan on camming forever but you have to be realistic. There are definitely more people camming then let say 10 years ago and the more the word gets out about it the more people are going to be jumping in and trying it.

    It is fantastic camming can you give you the financial freedom but you also have to consider the what if's when I started out camming when I was 18 I thought I would be doing it forever then I got burnt out, then I got PTSD then diagnosis with bipolar disorder, then evicted from my first apartment and almost evicted of my second apartment, I had no idea that the being diagnosis with mental illness would take a huge tole on me to navigate the health care system and find my way into recovery.

    Setting up an emergency fund is critical when you are camming, then you also need a system in place to replace it when you tap into it. Slow Days no one can predict them and when it is slow for one person doesn't mean it will be slow for you. You have to be able to adapt to the changes in your industry some will happen globally and some will happen individually.

    Sam38G - is right about your boyfriend if he isn't contributing to the household income outside of the house he needs to be contributing inside the house. In my journey of camming and doing sex work I've had been drained by exes that took advantage of freedom lifestyle of being able to work from home and make an comfortable living for myself.
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    Minnie is right, Vegas is much cheaper rent. Downside is your BF wont be able to get a job there. Vegas is a hard place to get a regular job, even waiting tables.

    Even to wait tables you need about 4 different cards. All jobs there require a sheriffs card. Those cards cost about $300 to get them all. As in he will have to pass criminal background checks.

    Why California? Are you moving out there thinking you will be apart of the porn community? Cause camming isn't by their standards. In fact, cam girls are the lowest of low. Street hookers have more respect. They cant make money off of us and dont want the current talent pool to even remotely think they can earn a living off of camming either.

    They will not welcome you with open arms,unless you plan on doing porn, fucking all of them and doing anal.

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    You can always move to the midwest. It's cheap here too. And oilfield jobs for the men folks.

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