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    Calling all SWers who are more alcohol-savvy than I …

    I guess the core of my problem is that alcohol simply disagrees w/ me, at least that's the conclusion I have drawn, but still looking for other thoughts on this. I realise that every1 responds differently to alcohol, but I have always seemed to miss my body's 'Stop drinking goddammit!' signals. I tend to keep pretty lvl-headed, w/ only a handful of exceptions I have not gotten 'falling down drunk', & I make a conscious effort to space-out my drinks (no more than one drink per hour) & often drink juice or water between drinks. Yet almost anytime I have more than the equivalent of 1-2 beers, I end up violently sick, sm times hrs after I cut myself off. I have noticed this both when mixing drinks over the course of several hrs, & when sticking to the same drink over the course of 2+hrs.

    When I start feeling a little buzzed, I try to not go over that 'slight' feeling. I don't experience any kind of nausea or heartburn, & by the time I do, of course it's too late & I know it'll be just a few min until I start throwing up. Thing is, like I said, the nausea usually only starts long after I've quit ingesting alcohol. I have noticed that as I start getting more tipsy, I become a bit over-vigilant bc I'm aware of my reflexes becoming slowed, but I have always thought that was just me being paranoid. The last time I went out drinking w/ a friend, I had maybe 4 drinks over 5hrs, w/ water or juice between each one, & felt completely fine until I got home -- no tipsiness, no upset stomach, no nothing -- then pulled up to my house & 10min later the puking started. This is the typical way of it. My question is, are there other signs that I'm missing that my body's telling me to cut myself off? Could the drinking itself be suppressing subtler signs to stop, even when I'm taking them in smaller amounts?

    I have nvr been a huge drinker so it's not like I'm sweating at the thought of 'Oh shit only one beer per day tops!' Hopefully I have not come across in this post as being a lush! I am just really wondering if there's smtg I've been missing all this time that's causing me to overdo it & not realising until several hrs later when the puking starts.

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    Default Re: When to cut yourself off

    I know you didn't want someone telling you to reduce your intake to one serving per day, but...you have to reduce your alcohol intake and keep it to one serving a day. Why? You don't want a possible admin separation due to possible alcoholism: better get in the habit of less alcohol now.

    Second, you much rather have an SWer telling you this than some DAPA chief.





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    Does this happen with all types of alcohol (wine, beer, and various spirits like vodka, gin, etc.)? It's totally possible that you have a mild -- and I say mild simply because the effects aren't immediate, not because they don't suck -- intolerance, so your body doesn't have the enzymes to break down the toxins in the alcohol. Depending on what types of alcohol cause this, you could try and deduce if it's the sulfites/preservatives, histamines, chemicals, a specific grain, etc., and then avoid alcohol that contains it.

    I used to know a girl who was allergic to… gluten maybe? Something that's in lots of types of alcohol, and all she could drink without getting sick was gin. If you're keen on drinking, it might be worth experimenting with different types of alcohol to determine which do/don't cause a reaction, but there's also nothing wrong with just not drinking, especially since you're not a big drinker anyway.

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    ^^ Gluten is a great culprit, also sulfites. Honestly if I had that kind of reaction, I'd just quit altogether.

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    ^ Agreed with that. I have a friend who is intolerant to weed, and it affects her much the same way. If you can't narrow it down to one specific ingredient or type of alcohol, best to stop entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    I know you didn't want someone telling you to reduce your intake to one serving per day, but...you have to reduce your alcohol intake and keep it to one serving a day. Why? You don't want a possible admin separation due to possible alcoholism: better get in the habit of less alcohol now.

    Second, you much rather have an SWer telling you this than some DAPA chief.
    I hope I am reading this wrong … but I did specify that I am not a big drinker. By 'not a big drinker' I mean, my typical alcohol intake is maybe 5oz of brandy for the whole wk. Maybe one beer a wk on top of it, & often less alcohol per wk than that. I certainly don't have any problem w/ alcoholism, sm times I go wks at a time w/o drinking at all. Alcoholism runs in my family & that's part of the reason I drink little to nothing anyway.

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    ^^^^ so w/ that said, the problems typically come when I have more than a couple drinks. @Shanna, I have given it sm thought after reading your response & can't really pinpoint a specific 'trigger type'. Rum, wódka (bad Pole, I know ), śliwo, etc. If I stick to beer I am usually ok but more than two, even over the course of a few hrs, I still get sick.

    I guess I am a bit of a binge drinker, bc I only go out once a month or every few months & have more than two drinks. Drinking at home, it's sorta whatever & no more than 1-1.5oz & no ill effects. I've wondered if it's just a general intolerance, to the gluten or whatever else, bc I'll feel perfectly fine when I quit … then a few hrs later my body seems to decide 'Fk you, I changed my mind, this shit's gotta go!'

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    Do you drink on an empty stomach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    Do you drink on an empty stomach?
    Made that mistake yrs ago in uni, let's just say once was enough! I either get food w/ the drink(s), or eat smtg carb/protein heavy b4 going out. I've also tried having a tbs of olive oil b4 you start drinking. It's supposed to coat your stomach & sm how keep you from getting drunk. I've tried that & noticed I have even less mental/head effects from drinking (like it takes the tipsy feeling down to zero almost regardless of what I drink), but I still get sick if I go over that 2drink limit.

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    According to this page, certain foods can delay the absorption of alcohol into the bloodstream.

    http://www.american.edu/ocl/wellness...ol.cfm#factors
    Having food (especially high fat and high protein foods such as chicken or cheese) in your stomach can delay the absorption of alcohol into the bloodstream. The food will slow the emptying of the stomach into the small intestine, where alcohol is very rapidly absorbed. If the stomach is empty, alcohol can reach the small intestines in five minutes before being absorbed directly into the bloodstream.

    I also found this interesting:
    http://www.american.edu/ocl/wellness/Alcohol.cfm#move
    HOW DOES ALCOHOL MOVE THROUGH THE BODY?

    Once swallowed, alcohol enters the stomach and moves to the small intestine, where it is absorbed directly into the bloodstream. Alcohol does not digest in the stomach like most foods or liquids;it goes straight into your bloodstream. Approximately 20% of the alcohol is absorbed through the stomach, while the remaining 80% is absorbed through the small intestine. Once in the bloodstream, alcohol is quickly distributed evenly throughout the body affecting every system and many organs, including the brain.

    Alcohol is metabolized and broken down by enzymes in the liver. The most important point to remember is that the liver can only process one ounce of 80-proof liquor (or one standard drink) in one hour. Drinking more than this, will result in your system becoming saturated, and the additional alcohol will accumulate in the blood and body tissues until it can be metabolized. This is why having a lot of shots or playing drinking games can result in a high blood alcohol concentration that lasts for several hours. Be sure to check out our definition of “One Standard Drink”.

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    I'm agree with Shanna-- my cousin's wife is extremely gluten intolerant and she gets a similar reaction to you. But she also gets sick from a lot of other things, bread, pasta, cereal-- anything with flour or wheat-- not just alcohol, so if alcohol is the only thing that makes you ill, I doubt it's gluten.

    Some people definitely don't tolerate alcohol as well as others-- think of the 'Asian flush syndrome' which is just the body not metabolizing alcohol efficiently, leading to a red face. I know there are medicines that help with that issue, so it may be worth speaking to a doctor about it.

    That said, as someone who is a big drinker, I can tell you that my alcohol tolerance has varied widely over the years, I mean it can change within a month or so. There have been times where I've gone through a big drinking phase and my tolerance has shot up, and times where I just haven't wanted to drink or have been busy and not partying or working and my tolerance shoots down. I remember doing something like 7 shots in an hour when I was working in Scotland one weekend and walking around hustling, it was my best night working in that club. Had I done that a couple of years ago when I went through a non-drinking phase I probably would have needed to go to the hospital, and were I to do it now I would be veery ill. It's possible that you have a slight intolerance to alcohol and that, added to the fact that you drink very rarely from the sounds of it, you just have a super low alcohol tolerance and 4 drinks is too much for you, even when spaced out. When I have gotten sick from drinking, it's never right after I take a shot. It's always a couple hours later, sometimes even longer.

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    You probably have a sensitive stomach.

    Like others have mentioned before if you drink faster than your body can process the alcohol or your body lacks sufficient enzymes to process the alcohol then you are succeptible to hangover symptoms like nausea, vomiting, headaches etc. even in small amounts.

    Main thing to do is simply cut back. Maybe have just one drink or stop drinking when you feel just a slight buzz.
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    This is not directed at the OP necessarily, but to people who drink a lot.

    Frequent drinkers never seem to ask themselves: why do I drink?

    Is it because I like the taste?
    Is it because I like to get high?
    Is it because I like to get numb and reduce my emotions?
    Is it just being "social" or following other drinkers to be friendly?

    What is your reason? Don't have to post it here, just think about it.

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    Maybe you just have a slight alcohol allergy/intolerance? I know a few people who can't drink at all or they get violently ill. Or it's that they'll power through a glass of wine, but they really shouldn't for that exact reason... You might want to go to the doctor and get allergy tested?

    Also, I know it goes against all the conventional wisdom that you've been following, but I've realized, in practice, that sometimes drinking water between every drink can upset your stomach because you're putting so much liquid in your body - double what it would be with just the alcohol. Maybe cut out the water buffer one night and then drink a glass of water before bed to fend off the dehydration and see if it helps. And sometimes spreading out drinks actually causes you to drink beyond your body's tolerance because, since you never feel "that drunk" you fail to realize that 5 drinks is a lot for your body when, really, maybe you can only handle 2 or 3 without surpassing your tolerance. I've had so many days where I'm violently hungover and I'm like "I didn't even drink that much!" Then I count and I'm like ok, it was actually 6 drinks which is a lot, I just didn't realize it because I wasn't drinking that fast. You don't feel it in your buzzed state, but it still adds up, even if it's spread out. I've pretty much accepted the fact that 2 drinks is my max if I don't want to get sick, regardless of any other tricks I try to offset it. It's just the way my body declined in tolerance (very rapidly) as I got older.
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    Strictly speaking from personal experience. I have learned that I need to stick to one type of alcohol in a night. For example if I start with scotch I need to stay with that, even if I have had 4 or 5, I will be fine. If I go to anything else I will get nauseated, not to the point of vomiting, but just shy of that. Mixed drinks, or having a shot of Jägermeister while drinking a beer will make me feel ill, even if I have only 1 or 2. Even drinking Coffee, Milk, Juice, or Cola to soon after having had alcohol will give me an upset stomach.

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    Aniela, I know this sounds dumb, but do you do a lot of inverted pole work, cuz being upside down has never agreed with me when drinking, even when I had a huge tolerance.
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    Are you on any medications? Alcohol can interfere with certain meds and reduce your tolerance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    Aniela, I know this sounds dumb, but do you do a lot of inverted pole work, cuz being upside down has never agreed with me when drinking, even when I had a huge tolerance.
    Monkeying on the pole is one of the main reasons I won't drink at work. I am clumsy enough as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laylalust View Post
    Are you on any medications? Alcohol can interfere with certain meds and reduce your tolerance.
    No meds. I tae potassium + iron supplements, & ibuprofen when I need it. Rx scripts are pretty tricky between aviation & military forbidden-medical shit so I don't bother w/ them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Alcohol does not digest in the stomach like most foods or liquids
    Just wanted to add that all digestion occurs in the small intestine, not the stomach! lol

    OP you must be allergic to something or an ulcer is a possibility (most common cause of those is a bacterial infection). Either way you should see a doctor! Getting violently sick from a couple drinks doesn't sound normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    No meds. I tae potassium + iron supplements, & ibuprofen when I need it. Rx scripts are pretty tricky between aviation & military forbidden-medical shit so I don't bother w/ them.
    As an aside, It's not good to mix ibuprofen and alcohol--it's bad for the liver.

    It sounds like your body is just allergic to alcohol, or is unable to metabolize it properly. It's always a good idea to listen to your body. If you are throwing up like that, it sounds like your body is sending a pretty clear warning.

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    I just wanted to come back and add some recent experiences to this thread: In the past 6 weeks, I've dramatically cut back on my drinking. Where I used to drink at least a couple drinks pretty much every night, I now only drink a few times a week and limit it to 1-2 drinks if I'm hanging out with friends.

    3 times in the past 2 weeks now, I had 2 drinks the first time, 3 drinks over the course of 5 hours the second time, and ONE high % beer the last time - and I experienced the phenomenon of being fine for several hours and then suddenly getting violently ill when I was pretty much sobered up. Like, I went for a good 3 hours after stopping drinking and then all of a sudden was hit with this feeling like I had a fever - chills, aches, loss of appetite, no energy, and then needing to throw up.

    This had never happened to me in the past and now it's happening regularly if I even have a couple drinks.

    Maybe it's just something that happens to people with sensitive stomachs when they don't drink regularly enough to keep their bodies used to it?
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    I was just reading through this thread, since it popped back up. I notice the OP takes Potassium supplements. Is there a reason for this?

    Most symptoms from drinking are in fact caused by dehydration due to the diuretic effect of the alcohol.

    Your bodies water balance is controlled in part by the ratio of Sodium to Potassium, and the reason for the potassium supplements may also be associated with the reaction to alcohol.

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    Could this be a liver issue? The liver can only digest so much alcohol (using a specific and limited enzyme) before it becomes overloaded. This is why, even if you're careful to stay hydrated while drinking, having too much to drink (above your body's unique threshold), causes all sorts of icky symptoms (hangovers, etc.).

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    ^^^Very possible, or pancreatitis, but I would expect a Navy physical to catch such a severe issue.

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