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    So I started escorting last month, and it's been kind of a drag so far. I've only managed to see one client. I've had so many emails from so many guys, and most of them refuse to go through screening. They just disappear the minute I mention it. It's so frustrating! I feel like my screening requirements aren't outrageous (two provider references or work verification with full name) but apparently these guys disagree. It's making me really worried about whether I can actually make it as an escort.

    I've heard clients are flaky as hell, but I guess I need some validation. I'm just hoping that as I see more clients word will get around that I'm trustworthy, and it'll get better. Or maybe I'll learn the secret trick that makes boys want to play along with screening.

    Did anyone else have trouble with screening when they were starting out? What made it get better?

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    Default Re: Screening blues! Does it get better?

    Probably depends on where you are advertising.

    Its good they disappear when asked to go through screening because these are the clients you DONT want just eliminating themselves.

    It also might have to do with you being new to the scene.
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    Default Re: Screening blues! Does it get better?

    I'm more under the radar but a significant number of my clients hand over their details really easily. Some are quite proud of their status and ask to be googled.

    Referrals and a good rep as being trustworthy should be really helpful.

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    Default Re: Screening blues! Does it get better?

    I'm not in U.S. No one does screening where I am (as its legal) which sucks.

    But for me, and everyone I've worked with (7+ years) no show rate is 30% minimum for all bookings with new guys.

    And many callers don't book. And this is when all details are provided in the girls web profile. Yup there's a lot of window shoppers that get their jollies calling you up.

    Though I have noticed email bookings were very unlikely to be time wasters.

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    Don't get discouraged though, just stay positive and focus on retention. You only started last month, and holiday periods are always slow, because most men will be busy playing house.

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    Where and how are you advertising? Sometimes changing your approach can ease some of the undesirable calls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heid009 View Post

    But for me, and everyone I've worked with (7+ years) no show rate is 30% minimum for all bookings with new guys.


    Though I have noticed email bookings were very unlikely to be time wasters.
    I would say about thirty percent of guys that contacted me actually led to a real-life booking. Guys have lots of excuses not book. Their mother died, they broke their leg, they can't do any of the 20 booking times you give them, whatever. Most of the time it's bullshit and they were never planning on coming anyway.

    You will get better at it as you go along, it's really just something you have to learn. You'll start to pick up on red flags and won't respond to half your callers. You'll also see that the better reviews and references you have a totally different type of clientele will be contacting you. Time wasters always go for newbies because they know they won't pick up on the signs.

    For me the best way to weed people out was to have some kind of requirement, like I will only accept emails or text messages or calls, whichever you prefer. Then you know the guys who call you when you only accept emails aren't reading your profile and are therefore a waste of time, since if you they don't read your profile how do they know what kind of service you're offering?

    I work in a country where it's legal and just used guy's feedback on AW to figure them out, but for outcalls required more personal information, like a letter addressed to them at the address. I honestly never had an issue getting this from clients that I was considering actually seeing, so it's really just more of a screening process on your end to weed out the weirdos before even bothering to ask for details.

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    ^I did mean 30% no show rate of guys that have actually confirmed a booking.

    If I were including all guys even the ones that call 30% sounds about right....

    Having worked with other girls I have noticed a few attracted more no shows and time wasters than me. The differences were:

    -They charged less. Obviously prices vary from location to location, but IME girls that charge at the lower end of mid range attract more time wasters and no shows than those that charge the upper end of midrange. (And so often ended up doing less bookings) 'bargain hunter' guys shop around more and ask more questions- because they want ALOT for their money, so they spend a lot of time calling numerous girls (I really think some spend more than the difference between girls on their cell bill). And these bargain hunters are less likely to return.

    -They talk explicit details on the phone. I find when guys ask a girl open ended questions like: 'what is included in the hour' 'can you tell me a bit about yourself?' (When it's all in your advert) 'what do you enjoy doing' are probably time wasters.

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    Following because I'm going to post an ad in backpage soon and I've heard about most guys not wanting to be screened...I've worked at body rub spas and was the phone girl for one place that screened thoroughly, so I think I'm experienced with it. But, I don't have a website. Should I bother posting there at all if that's an issue?

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    Default Re: Screening blues! Does it get better?

    Not sure I'm allowed to post being a male client (8+ years) - moderator please delete if breaking the rules.

    I understand that BP has a low barrier to entry for both clients and providers. Also, some providers have established screening methods (generously shared on the forums) to make BP safer than without screening. However, can't enough business be found through client verification sites and review sites by posting ads and having a good profile? Knowing that BP also has a low barrier to entry for bad actors (LE and other Dangerous People), it seems that one missed screen can wipe out the profits from many months of work - not to mention the emotional, time, and legal woes. Hopefully this is constructive client side commentary. I stopped using BP as soon as I found easier ways to schedule with much lower risk (never having to discuss rates or service) and see the safety of clients and providers as a shared goal in which both parties should be seeking improvements to the options available for making the connection. There are so many barriers that need addressed for both provider profits and client's finding service. BP seems more like trying to run a business on a battlefield, too many casualties to ignore.

    BTY, anyone know of a SW advocacy site where both providers and clients communicate, share advice, ideas, promote SW rights, and acceptance of the industry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Its good they disappear when asked to go through screening because these are the clients you DONT want just eliminating themselves.
    That's a good philosophy! Much better than thinking of it as money lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    Where and how are you advertising? Sometimes changing your approach can ease some of the undesirable calls
    I'm advertising on eros and setting up appointments through email. Currently I only give out my phone number after screening, since I get nervous talking on the phone and I want to make sure I don't forget to mention anything important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasticGoldFish View Post

    BTY, anyone know of a SW advocacy site where both providers and clients communicate, share advice, ideas, promote SW rights, and acceptance of the industry?
    You mean like StripperWeb?

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    Default Re: Screening blues! Does it get better?

    A lot of hobby boards already are a forum for adult biz support.

    Many in the US are hosted in foreign nations to get around, um, certain issues.

    As for screening, the old school method (before Internet and Google) required a lot of phone calls back and forth. Frankly if someone is being weird about complying with screening, they don't need to be dealt with....There's already been well-publicized incidences of "clients" ambushing, robbing and even killing providers.

    No handful of paper is worth ending up injured or killed. You can always live another day to grab another handful of paper somewhere else...You can't do that if you let someone get the jump on you.

    Take good care of yourselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heid009 View Post
    ^I did mean 30% no show rate of guys that have actually confirmed a booking.

    If I were including all guys even the ones that call 30% sounds about right....

    Having worked with other girls I have noticed a few attracted more no shows and time wasters than me. The differences were:

    -They charged less. Obviously prices vary from location to location, but IME girls that charge at the lower end of mid range attract more time wasters and no shows than those that charge the upper end of midrange. (And so often ended up doing less bookings) 'bargain hunter' guys shop around more and ask more questions- because they want ALOT for their money, so they spend a lot of time calling numerous girls (I really think some spend more than the difference between girls on their cell bill). And these bargain hunters are less likely to return.

    -They talk explicit details on the phone. I find when guys ask a girl open ended questions like: 'what is included in the hour' 'can you tell me a bit about yourself?' (When it's all in your advert) 'what do you enjoy doing' are probably time wasters.
    You mean after you screened them you still had a 30% no-show rate?

    When I first started escorting I probably had a no-show everyday but didn't have any in the last months of my career. But maybe I was just lucky.

    I definitely agree that anyone asking a ton of open-ended questions deserves an immediate hang-up. They have their dick in their hand and are jacking off as you answer them, it's free phone sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    You mean after you screened them you still had a 30% no-show rate?

    When I first started escorting I probably had a no-show everyday but didn't have any in the last months of my career. But maybe I was just lucky.

    I definitely agree that anyone asking a ton of open-ended questions deserves an immediate hang-up. They have their dick in their hand and are jacking off as you answer them, it's free phone sex.
    ^Um I wish AW was more popular where I am, but the most popular local site only shows feedback for girls, not clients. It sucks.

    I get a few UK and euro guys from AW, and for me AW had a 0% no show rate. Guys from US using their real names /work emails linked to linkedin or whatever also had a 0% no show rate.

    But the most popular site where I am has always had a high no show rate (local guys are pretty inconsiderate entitled and jerky for the most part) 30% is the absolute minimum for that site. Nothing to be done about it. (And never met any girl with a lower no show rate than that)

    Before I quit it went above that. I'd only bother returning if booking deposits become a done thing, or to only see tourists from AW if there s an increase in tourism.

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    ^I didn't mean to veer off track from op's post^

    I just meant to say I'm pretty sure client flakiness is universal. And it's hard to anticipate as a newbie how much time goes into activities other than actually being with a paying client.

    But it does get better IME because you pick up regulars who don't waste your time, are not late ect. The no show rate for new potential clients may not improve, (it didn't for me) but over time you won't be relying on new clients.

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    AW is awesome-- besides the fact it has built in screening with the review system guys are very hesitant to pull a no-show because they know you'll leave shit feedback for them and they won't get future bookings. All my clients were from AW; luckily it's then #1 site here (though some of my best client oddly enough weren't registered users). I also found that refusing to give out my address until 15 mins before the bookong drastically cut down on TWers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    You mean like StripperWeb?
    Touche. Stripperweb is great, was just thinking along the lines of a political advocacy group like what you see for marijauna, gay marriage, etc. Seems to me that sex workers are vastly under represented when it comes to proponents and organized political advocacy.

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    SWOP - sex workers outreach program

    and please dont get to confident that boards are 100% safe - the fbi is well aware of them and many have been infiltrated/busted/shutdown in the last few years

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    SWOP - sex workers outreach program

    and please dont get to confident that boards are 100% safe - the fbi is well aware of them and many have been infiltrated/busted/shutdown in the last few years

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    SWOP is very cliquish in some areas.

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