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    Default Need to start escorting, just a few Q's!

    I've been reading about all the safety tips and beginner tips and am going to follow them to a T, but I do have a few things I'm still confused about. Oh, and I have figured I need my starting rates to be $500/hour- thoughts about this?

    1) I've read a lot about screening, but still don't fully know exactly how to go about doing it. What steps do I need to take?

    2) I'm going to be independent, no agencies. I know it may take time to build my clientele this way but it seems worth it, right?

    3) What is the best way to start out indie? What site should I advertise myself on? Or should I build my own site?

    4) I don't want my face to be in any of my pictures- will this damage business a lot?

    5) Finally, I am located outside of DC. About an hour and a half outside (but I'm moving soon) I know I will probably have to travel to DC to be successful. Does anyone have experience in DC escorting or know about it?

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    Default Re: Need to start escorting, just a few Q's!

    1. When I first started I would copy the screening information most ladies asked for and post it on my ads to make sure men provided all the info...and I always made sure they had at least two references. I use verifyhim.com, p411, date-check, and ter as well to verify peoples info. If they're new to the hobby I try to confirm all their info with a form of identification sent to me in an email. I'm sure another lady on this board can go into better detail on screening, since some girls have a different way of doing it. But definitely have multiple references.

    2. If I could go back in time and needed income quickly, I would go through a booking agency such as Le Vip in order to get more clients willing to write reviews for you. Le Vip has a client list all over the US which will definitely help you out. Having clients write reviews will help you attract more clients. Some ladies do fine and are more UTR without reviews....but in my case I barely got business without reviews.

    3. http://www.verifyhim.com/pg/pages/view/428021/ ....this page should help with the best areas to advertise depending on where you live. Date-check, p-411, and ter are my favorites in the DC area (which is where you live). The only problem with date-check and p411 is that they require a certain number of reviews from clients to prove you are safe to have a membership. I think date-check still allows verification by another provider instead if you don't have enough client references.

    4. No, but business definitely improves if you do provide face photos though. For safety, I crop my photos at the neck or I blur my face.

    5. I loveeeee DC. Dupont Circle is where most girls stay in the area. I used to tour there all the time and the guys are super nice there. Screen very well in this area because it has a lot of scammers there.
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    Hi. I have some experience in the escort industry. I used to be an escort of the independent type. I worked in the New York City / in New York New Jersey area. I charged anywhere between $250 to $300 an hour. I advertised myself on Craigslist and also on a site called mentor tainment. Com. I would screen customere by having them call me and I would ask a series of questions to find out if they were real or not. I would have them meet me at a motel of my choosing where I had frequented regularly. I was friendly with the girl at the desk and would pay her a salary to inform me when my clients had checked in. I would then meet the client at the room after he was already there. I would do the money exchange only after he had showered and was ffully naked. LE usually wears a wire, so make sure he removes all articles off clothing, even his socks. This it's most important if he is a first time r. After that, use your discretion. And I would call the front desk to let her know that I had started my session. I would then have the girls call me at about 50 minutes for her to let me know that the time was up.

    As far as charging a price per hour, it depends on what you are willing to do and how you are going to market yourself. I was a very attractive lady with blonde hair, blue eyes , big breasts... the whole nine yards. I packaged myself as a high end escort. I spent time building my business. I would never go to a private home, That is just dangerous. If you decide to do outcalls, have someone drive you and pay them to wait outside. Make sure you call them when you go inside so the customer knows they are accountable. Have your driver call thou 10 minutes befor your session is over.

    When you begin, decide on a schedule that works for you. I Chose to work during daytime hours only unless I had a regular client that was coming in from out of town and wanted to spend the evening with me. I did not like the type of clientele that would be available at night. I found there are many drug users and assholes who were very difficult to deal with. There is an niche for everyone. Find yours. Make sure that you are available to answer your cell phone between those hours or return their call promptly. This is vvery important because many guys that use escorts are available at the last minute. And many others are married and can only escape when they're able to. If they go to call you and you are not available to answer your phone or you are not around to return your call within a timely matter they will skip over to another woman. There are many hungry ladies in this business. They're a're also many ladies that are willing to work for almost nothing. They are drug attics and they are sleazy. If you find that you are not getting a suitable clients health working for yourself then you may want to work for a service. Be advised that the service will take between 40 to 60 percent of your earnings. However they will save you the time of having to advertise and field and sift through all of those idiots who call you and are just wasting your time and money.

    Before you begin, make sure that you have in your mind what you are willing to do and set your own limits.

    I set myself apart by being a very caring and loving warm escort. I also gave a incredible massage to break the ice, talk to the client, and feel the client out. They really appreciated this, as many of the clients that I had we're professional business executives that has very stressful jobs. Also you may want to advertise that you do light fetish. You can advertise that you have very little experience but you are highly teachachable. Clients want to experiment with the fetish Rena but don't have much experience either and they will be willing to pay more if you are willing to work with them and learn together.

    I found that the average price for a non porn star indie escort in my area was anywhere between $100 an hour to 300 dollars an hour. You can get more for your session if you work for a very exclusive agency who has a good reputation or you are absolutely stunning and willing to do anything and everything. Also I would highly recommend that you become G. F. E. That is short for girlfriend experience. Not all are willing, so you can charge more. Many clients want to experience passion that has been long gone in their marriagets. They don't want the hassle of having to date a woman and getting caught. An escort is an easy way for them to get what they want without having any commitments. They have you as their exclusive girlfriend for the hour. This also means that you must kiss on the mouth and treat them like you would treat any boyfriend.

    After a while I became friendly with many of my clients. It became enjoyable for me every so often. I even began to allow myself some pleasure. My favorite customers came to know my body even though I didn't want them to and after while I found myself starting to enjoy it.

    Over time I began to develop a regular client base. Some would see me every week. Some would see me every two weeks. I found that this was a good way to work things and it worked very well for me. I made a very good living and some of the clients I really enjoyed being with. Only wish that I had save some of the money that I had earned instead of traveling and partying it all away. I am now working as a cam model at almost 50 years old and I have to say that it is a lot more work than being an escort and a lot less money. I could still escort because I'm still highly attractive and there is a market for young men that enjoy older women. My husband will not allow me to it. I had to really work with him to allow me to do cam modeling.

    I wish you the best of luck and be safe and all that you do and never compromise who you are.
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    Default Re: Need to start escorting, just a few Q's!

    Quick protip- lately a lot of hobbyists will try to get discounts...many will gamble on your newness/desire to please that you will "do them a solid" and give discounts. Don't. There's no reason to...very few will become regs of yours and other girls will hate you for being "that girl." When guys tried this on me I would just hang up on them as soon as they mentioned it. Also on hobby boards the girls usually get the benefit of the doubt in that area because guys know how guys are....No one wants to look like Mr. BrokeAss Pencil Dick so no one is going to gang up you there in regards to sticking to your rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Quick protip- lately a lot of hobbyists will try to get discounts...many will gamble on your newness/desire to please that you will "do them a solid" and give discounts. Don't. There's no reason to...very few will become regs of yours and other girls will hate you for being "that girl." When guys tried this on me I would just hang up on them as soon as they mentioned it. Also on hobby boards the girls usually get the benefit of the doubt in that area because guys know how guys are....No one wants to look like Mr. BrokeAss Pencil Dick so no one is going to gang up you there in regards to sticking to your rates.
    I could not agree more with this and it was the very thing I wish I knew starting out. I was quite desperate for money at the time and the guys always know providers are pretty broke when they start working. Most of the time, ladies wind up getting taken advantage of when they are new and inexperienced. A lot of clients wait until you have enough reviews from reputable reviewers to feel you are "worth" spending their cash on and to make sure its not an LE setup as well. Some guys will promise to see you regularly at a discount rate as well which never happens and they contact you once every blue moon when they notice you increased your rate. I've been told so many lies, excuses, and promises from people especially from great/nice/friendly clients, only to hear that they talk poorly and gossip about you behind your back. Be careful out there with what you say to anyone.

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    I know in some metropolitan markets hobbyists can be mean-spirited and nasty, but lucky for me I worked in a great area & the hobby community was very supportive of girls.

    Some girls avoid the discount game by making 2-3 hour minimum booking rules- a lot of guys don't mind that pricing but they are expecting a GFE. Maybe not "unsafe" activity but a backrub, erotic dancing, "half and half" done according to the provider's safety standards, and chit chat.

    Also- get some "board vets" to give you some good reviews to get the ball rolling. A lot of the best clients are "gun shy" and won't see a new girl unless they are sure they are not stepping into a meeting with a rip off bitch or much worse, LE.

    Last tip- take great pix- crop your head or cover your face with hair/a hat (since there is software to de-pixellate or unblur photos.) Borrow outfits if you have to....Having many great pics of the same girl (you) reinforces the "fantasy excitement" aspect of your shows.

    edit to add- there is a free Photoshop program online called GIMP- you can download it to alter your pics (seeing as it is common for club owners and LE to troll online pics to recognize girls, "art it up" and make it hard for you to be recognized in pics.)
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    So true. GFE is where ladies make the most money. I am not gfe at all, I have a more rough, impersonal and pse type of personality so I am familiar with one hour appointments. I have booked very few overnights and about a handful of longer than 3 hour appointments as a result. But at the end of the day, it is up to your personal comfort level. I chose not to do gfe since it drained me too much emotionally and was ruining my personal life as well.

    Pictures are the main selling point online so make sure you get a great photographer when cropping your face out of the photo.

    SnuffleUffleGrass, you added some great points and tips so far that I wish I knew starting out. Its always worse for a lady to find out by learning from mistakes in this industry.


    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I know in some metropolitan markets hobbyists can be mean-spirited and nasty, but lucky for me I worked in a great area & the hobby community was very supportive of girls.

    Some girls avoid the discount game by making 2-3 hour minimum booking rules- a lot of guys don't mind that pricing but they are expecting a GFE. Maybe not "unsafe" activity but a backrub, erotic dancing, "half and half" done according to the provider's safety standards, and chit chat.

    Also- get some "board vets" to give you some good reviews to get the ball rolling. A lot of the best clients are "gun shy" and won't see a new girl unless they are sure they are not stepping into a meeting with a rip off bitch or much worse, LE.

    Last tip- take great pix- crop your head or cover your face with hair/a hat (since there is software to de-pixellate or unblur photos.) Borrow outfits if you have to....Having many great pics of the same girl (you) reinforces the "fantasy excitement" aspect of your shows.

    edit to add- there is a free Photoshop program online called GIMP- you can download it to alter your pics (seeing as it is common for club owners and LE to troll online pics to recognize girls, "art it up" and make it hard for you to be recognized in pics.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Also- get some "board vets" to give you some good reviews to get the ball rolling. A lot of the best clients are "gun shy" and won't see a new girl unless they are sure they are not stepping into a meeting with a rip off bitch or much worse, LE.
    Can we please not promote the review board circlejerk here? It's disgusting and I do just fine with my four figure minimum and not allowing reviews. The best clients consider hobbyist culture absolutely revolting, as does any companion with a drop of self-respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abarrett View Post
    Can we please not promote the review board circlejerk here? It's disgusting and I do just fine with my four figure minimum and not allowing reviews. The best clients consider hobbyist culture absolutely revolting, as does any companion with a drop of self-respect.
    I think the hobbyist review board situation is a great thing for those who are financially struggling and need quick cash. I, myself came from a family with a horrible father who controlled everything I needed to get by and hired a private investigator multiple times to understand why he couldn't control me.. I have never felt more free and happy since I had the financial ability to purchase my own car and things needed to survive to move forward from his threats while I am finishing school. Despite my dislike for the boards in the past, I have come to realize the amount of support I have been given while in school and the certain clients who always pulled through when I was glued to my school books/ homework. Not every guy will be good (which I get) but I have met guys that have been super sweet from the review board and kind to me in my time of need that I find myself baking goodies for them. I only promote the board because it has truly been helpful in my success so far as having this as my only job....which is something I think the poster intended to do. You take the good with the bad in this job and you need to be careful regardless.

    A lot of ladies with a second job do great with or without reviews, but for me good reviews was essential. I haven't been in contact with my father or been in a bad situation for a few years now and it has felt amazing all thanks to the boards.

    In the past, I would be at his house with his numerous sugar babies from online with/without their child in the building so it was a difficult place to live. I completely accept the review system now.

    And I am working from a higher range location price ... Not motel..which I don't hate and I completely understand for ladies to utilize because I have been there..I wear the same lingerie because I can't afford anything new...it's all about effort in certain ways..

    I hope I didn't sound too dramatic but it was what I have found after being in the biz for so long.
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    I'm been escorting in another country where it's different partly because it's legal, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But here goes:

    In regards to your pricing, you can't pick a number that you like or that seems reasonable, you need to do research. Put all your insecurities aside and any false beliefs you may have about your appearance and try and honestly evaluate yourself. See what girls on your level are charging and compare your services. Your prices are based on what you offer, how you look, how good you are at performing your services (I know we all want to believe that we're good in bed, but it's just not true) and any special qualities/talents you bring to the table. You can always increase your prices, but lowering them can make clients wonder if you're struggling, which is a turnoff. Or make them think that you're wiling to negotiate. You don't want to charge too high and not appeal to clients but you also don't want to charge too low and appeal to the wrong people ($500 is definitely at the high-end for a new escort from what I've read, but I don't what the prices are like in DC).

    I think you will have a hard time starting off indie in the US because it seems like the way screening works there you need references. Honestly I remember going into this business and feeling like I was making a sacrifice by offering sex and should get what I want, but it's a business like any other and unless you have a lot of side income coming in and aren't really worried about it taking ages to get settled, then you have to make some sacrifices in the beginning. Unless you have a friend who can turn you onto a client you can give you a reference, then I would start at an agency in the beginning.

    Lastly in regards to face photos, I do not show them, I will not show them to you for x amount of money, there is no negotiation. I am not going to be applying for my license in four years to have some guy fuck me over because he has proof I escorted when I was in my twenties. Once I had references and reviews of guys saying how pretty I was it was never an issue except with guys who I could tell were time wasters anyway.

    Also, if I remember you are pretty young, like 19 right? I would suggest saying you are a couple years older, like 21. I've had several clients mention they don't like the idea of being with super young girls and have walked out upon arriving for various reasons (most of which I'm sure don't apply to you since you seem very mature, but sex work is based on perception not reality).

    Aurora Sunset is awesome and I don't think I could have started my escorting career without her advice.

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    I would not advise involving hotel staff in your business. Majority of the hotels are not escort friendly. The other poster had a unique experience in my opinion. Over the many years of working in the same city some staff figure you out - I have never had any issues in my city ( was thrown out of a hotel in Atlantic City never quite knew how they pinned me ) dress appropriately so you dont call attention to yourself - fit in - I have been approached by a few concierge asking for a number for referrals - gotten a few snarky smirks from desk clerks but I would never approach staff and share my business - defiantly have someone who knows where you are going - the clients info - when you arrive and when you are safely away - many men are leery that the 19 year old is really 17 KWIM? and some perceive younger ladies as less dependable and flighty- LE in Arizona and other states did stings on johns and used some shady tactics with underage lies - Not saying you are not worth 500 but in today's environment that might be tough as an unknown indy - a reputable agency as advised above might get you your price and some validity - if you have another means of support and can wait it out you might be able to pull it off - I agree with @abarret and despise the hobbist but some ladies thrive / prosper in that arena - you have to decide what works best for you and until you get your feet wet you may not know - just be prepared for all of the advice they will give you about how to run your business - of course most of their advice will be slanted towards what works for him and his fellow mongers - keep in touch with the ladies here and on VH if you need advice do nt get it from them - best of luck and stay safe -

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    Quote Originally Posted by abarrett View Post
    Can we please not promote the review board circlejerk here? It's disgusting and I do just fine with my four figure minimum and not allowing reviews. The best clients consider hobbyist culture absolutely revolting, as does any companion with a drop of self-respect.
    Not to offend you hon, but in some regions having a good rep on a board or two will help a girl. & I have never been under the impression that hobbyist were my "friends." That's not it. Having good reviews is like having good reviews for a restaurant on Yelp or Google....it gives people an idea of what is going on.

    If you work in a Vice -heavy region where reviews can be bad for you, by all means don't have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiegirl View Post
    I think the hobbyist review board situation is a great thing for those who are financially struggling and need quick cash. I, myself came from a family with a horrible father who controlled everything I needed to get by and hired a private investigator multiple times to understand why he couldn't control me.. I have never felt more free and happy since I had the financial ability to purchase my own car and things needed to survive to move forward from his threats while I am finishing school. Despite my dislike for the boards in the past, I have come to realize the amount of support I have been given while in school and the certain clients who always pulled through when I was glued to my school books/ homework. Not every guy will be good (which I get) but I have met guys that have been super sweet from the review board and kind to me in my time of need that I find myself baking goodies for them. I only promote the board because it has truly been helpful in my success so far as having this as my only job....which is something I think the poster intended to do. You take the good with the bad in this job and you need to be careful regardless.


    A lot of ladies with a second job do great with or without reviews, but for me good reviews was essential. I haven't been in contact with my father or been in a bad situation for a few years now and it has felt amazing all thanks to the boards.


    In the past, I would be at his house with his numerous sugar babies from online with/without their child in the building so it was a difficult place to live. I completely accept the review system now.


    And I am working from a higher range location price ... Not motel..which I don't hate and I completely understand for ladies to utilize because I have been there..I wear the same lingerie because I can't afford anything new...it's all about effort in certain ways..


    I hope I didn't sound too dramatic but it was what I have found after being in the biz for so long.

    I mean, I understand why you would entertain such if you were in a survival sex work scenario - boards are preferable to streetwalking (I assume, no experience with the latter) - but there's really no excuse otherwise.

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    Not to offend you hon, but in some regions having a good rep on a board or two will help a girl. & I have never been under the impression that hobbyist were my "friends." That's not it. Having good reviews is like having good reviews for a restaurant on Yelp or Google....it gives people an idea of what is going on.

    If you work in a Vice -heavy region where reviews can be bad for you, by all means don't have them.
    That's the thing - I am not a commodity - they're not like reviews for a restaurant at all. The sites exist solely to drive down prices, coerce escorts into unsafe services, and degrade the industry at large. Don't pretend as though they are remotely benign.

    Getting back to the OP... I usually fly into DC for business at least once a month.

    $500/hr is very doable if you take the time to build the marketing, but not at first. Keep in mind that guys often won't go beneath a certain price point - $300/hr in the DC metro is synonymous with being a Backpage girl. Check the VIP Escorts section of DC's Eros, as that's pretty much where a guy would be looking if he's planning on spending that much.

    LE isn't terribly bad within the actual District of Colombia (I'm also used to working in hot areas), but it is extremely hot in the surrounding suburbs. Be aware of Maryland's 'assignation' law.

    There are screening posts here that you need to read up on, though you've already gotten some good advice. There's an excellent pdf floating around associated with PillowTalkForums.

    Yes, indie is totally worth it. You need to advertise on directory sites. You also need to build your own and use the directory ads to drive traffic to it.

    You don't need face pics. I have face pics, but that's because I was suicidal when I started in the industry and haven't bothered to phase them out yet.

    Beltway traffic sucks. Try to make sure your travel isn't coterminous with rush hour.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by abarrett View Post
    I am not a commodity - they're not like reviews for a restaurant at all. The sites exist solely to drive down prices, coerce escorts into unsafe services, and degrade the industry at large. Don't pretend as though they are remotely benign.


    You don't need face pics. I have face pics, but that's because I was suicidal when I started in the industry and haven't bothered to phase them out yet

    You shouldn't make generalizations about hobby boards. Information that is critical for escorts is hard to come by and boards are one method. I wouldn't call them benign but to ignore them entirely is ignoring a helpful resource.

    I also don't know where you get off making statements about "survival" when you just stated you were in a bad place mentally when you entered escorting. I don't understand what you are trying to say, other than you don't think anyone else works in any other fashion than you do. Good luck with everything.

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    >I was friendly with the girl at the desk and would pay her a salary to inform me when my clients had checked in. I would then meet the client at the room after he was already there. I would do the money exchange only after he had showered and was ffully naked. LE usually wears a wire, so make sure he removes all articles off clothing, even his socks. This it's most important if he is a first time r. After that, use your discretion. And I would call the front desk to let her know that I had started my session. I would then have the girls call me at about 50 minutes for her to let me know that the time was up.

    Will all due respect to Lady FionaStar... absolutely Do Not do this. In my area, the hotel staff is paid a bonus if they can ID a working escort. A desk clerk at a hotel who was taking payment from an escort would be fired so quickly their feet wouldn't hit the ground on the way out. And they would have a bitch of a time getting hired at a hotel anywhere else. (You think concierges don't talk to each other?) In that same vein, don't use the hotel's wifi to update your ads. They can see who is accessing which sites on their own network. Either use your phone as a hotspot or get something like a Karma hotspot and use that.

    My other piece of advice would be to proceed with caution. If your gut is telling you to be careful, then by all means, be careful. No money is worth getting arrested or dead. I've been working as an escort for about 4 years and have never been arrested and I'm not dead - but I have turned down a handful of clients just because. No regrets.
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    Thank you soo much for all these tips ladies!! I swear I learn so much from all the helpful people on this site.
    Everything I'm reading is making sense and I am beginning to build the model for my new business. The first thing I have to do is get pro photos, hope to set that up sometime next week.
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    This is a slight threadjack but info I need to share with girls who are escorting right now- since the US gov. has chosen to go after online adult ads in such a hard way, you absolutely need to be responsible with your advertising and have ways to re-assure your clients that you are a responsible drama free provider. IMO BP is going the way of the dinosaur....it seems as if the site's bad rep is not going to be shaken off.

    Your webmaster can put icons on your page for date check, and for further info to verify your references and reviews. This is a smart investment- a lot of hobbyists are taking long breaks from seeing girls because the media furor over "human trafficking" and "exploitation" is scaring them off.

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