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    So the last few weeks I have been really been struggling with fatigue and lack of motivation. I am so tired all the time, I sleep 10 hours and pulling myself out of bed feels impossible. And then I'm ready for a nap 6 hours later. Even when I am up I feel like I have no motivation to get anything done. I just want to lie on the couch and watch TV. I'm super irritable and sensitive to anything my bf says or does. It's hard for me to concentrate on anything, it's like my mind is always restless and moving on to something else, even getting through an hour of TV without doing something else, or being able to keep track of what's going on, has become difficult.

    I've tried adding supplements to my diet-- I eat very balanced vegetarian diet, have always been obsessed with getting all my food groups in. I take a multi-vitamin, iron, vitamin e, and biotin.

    I'm getting desperate at this point and thinking of going on Adderall or Ritalin, but I would prefer not to have to use stimulants, but at this point nothing is working and I can't really find a cause. I'm not particularly depressed or upset about anything, stressed about some stuff, but I've gone through major depression before and this is not it.

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    Go get a CBC. A friend who's been fatigued for quite a while went to the hospital for something unrelated. They did a CBC, and she was diagnosed with acute leukemia. They admitted her that day. (a week ago.)

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    Try to go to sleep early like 9 pm, and wake up 5 am and exersise, even if you just do a yoga or pilates. Just put alarm not so close to the bed. Seriously, i feel much better. Do not read news, do not check a phone,first thing you do is exersise. Maybe tou want to do a pranayama. Just try does not hurt to try. But you will feel like a whole new person. When you to to bed, do not go with a phone, turn off all lights, and try to concentrate attention on silence.
    I feel much better if i sleep during the night and wake up early morning i have whole day for me over 18 hours.
    I have been suffering fatigue myself, and it begun after years of abusing myself with working at night, seriously!
    Try a blood test thought. Myself i always want to do it, but always forget it.
    I have a fitbit, and you can see your sleep circles with it, and guess what if i go to sleep late like 11 pm and later i woke up not earlier than 10 am and actual sleep over 2-3 hours not more, but when i go to sleep at 9 pm or earlier my sleep is longer 4-5 hours and time in bed only 6 hours.
    Try to take vit D.when i take cod liver oil i will so energised, mood is good too, but i dont like after taste, so today will arrive my krill oil, lets see...
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    ^I bought this sunrise alarm clock because I have to be up at 5:45 for work-- I can wake up a lot easier and don't feel half asleep like before, but it doesn't help with the ongoing fatigue during the day or the lack of motivation/concentration I'm experiencing right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    ^I bought this sunrise alarm clock because I have to be up at 5:45 for work-- I can wake up a lot easier and don't feel half asleep like before, but it doesn't help with the ongoing fatigue during the day or the lack of motivation/concentration I'm experiencing right now.
    I wanted that alarm too, try to exersise just right after bed. I wake up and do my 20/20/20. 5am exerising,5:20am i have an actual juornal where i write on all languages i know, just to keep myself motivated, and just have an actual time with myself.5:40 am educate myself i can read a book, or continue learning languages, i do vocal exersise cuz i dont like how my voice sounds)
    You know how they say, how you start your day/ year thats how it will continue. So start with an exercise.
    And do not forget that, we are human but still animals, all nature rules still apply on us, at winter we slow down. Still all our animal nature says to us, get fat do not move much or we will not survive untill summer. Cuz our animal inside does not understand for people to survive we just need money, and food will be delivered
    also im currently testing "bullet proof coffe" which i adapted as coconut oil, ginger, honey, lemon, white tea. And i actually love it. But if you like coffee and you are willing to drop a grass fed cow butter well...
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    Low thyroid? Tired from starting a new job? Some kind of virus? I had something last year that seriously went on for over 6 months, my blood work was fine but I was exhausted.

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    I would double check your supplements - there is a sweet spot with those and you can take too much. Sometimes excess vitamins can be peed out as waste (like vitamin c) but too much iron stays in your system & has the same symptoms as anemia.
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    I would go to a doctor just to be safe. It could also be depression. You've had a lot of stressors recently, and some of those symptoms seem to fit that. A doctor might be able to help with that as well.

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    OK, I'm gonna fire off a list, just some things to think about....

    1. Meds, I know you've had some changes since moving, could side effects be the issue?

    2. Diet, you were concerned about weight, are you restricting fat intake? Lack of energy especially over extended periods is an issue with a low-fat diet. Link for low sugar vs. low fat...

    3. Suppliments, are you getting a Vitamin D suppliment? Make sure it is absorbable Vitamin D, not a precursor that requires sunlight. You could consider actual tanning instead of spray tan. I know....skin damage, right? I personally prefer the look of a natural tan but a tanning both is next best. Spray tans alway look...painted on? The tanning light may help some if Vitamin D/winter depression is the issue.

    4. Do you or the BF snore? I know ladies don't snore, but if he does it may effect your sleep quality. I assume your back is better after adjusting to the implants? Discomfort will effect your sleep patterns.

    5. As suggested earlier a CBC wouldn't hurt, also H-pylori, could be a factor. With your previous work in the last year other test may be in order, just to be sure.

    6. Thyroid pannels and the like would be a good idea if easier ideas don't pan out.

    7. Also about diet, I konw you mentioned a while back about craving bites of the BF's meat at dinner you may be lacking something. I understand your reason for wanting to be Vegan, but it might not hurt to try a dietary change and see if it makes a difference.

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    If you're eating vegetarian, you might want to also incorporate a B12 supplement into your diet. I also eat mostly vegetarian, and was having the same issues. I started taking B12 about 2 weeks ago because someone suggested that it helps with energy, especially if you're not eating meat, and I do feel a slight, but distinct, uptick in energy. It hasn't been "magical" or anything in terms of having tons of motivation to get things done, but I certainly am able to survive on less sleep whereas a couple weeks ago, I was literally sleeping 10 hours a night and still taking like 3 naps a day. Like, I had to lie down and nap, because I was falling asleep no matter what I did, despite how much I slept at night. It was fucking ridiculous. I'm still kinda lazy and 'blah' but not needing to nap constantly like I used to.
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    Iron pills aren't always enough for vegetarians. If you are okay with occasionally eating humanely raised/slaughtered red meat or seafood, it can make a huge difference! No matter how many pills I take, how much spinach I eat, or if I cook absolutely everything in my cast-iron skillet, it is such a struggle to maintain adequate iron levels. When I feel fatigued like you've described, I'll order some monkfish liver and tuna from my favorite sushi place or get a little filet somewhere. I'll feel back to normal the next day or the day after.

    Could you be experiencing a type of SAD? If you went from the super high sunlight levels of LA, and now you're in notoriously gloomy London, maybe your body is struggling to adjust to the lack of sunlight as springtime comes in.

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    Hey, I actually just experienced this at the beginning of January - same as you, I've experienced major depression and this wasn't it! I couldn't leave my house for more than about 6 hours at a time because I was so exhausted that I couldn't keep my eyes open. Anyways, I'm not sure if this will be the most helpful advice, but it lasted for about two weeks and then it just....went away. I went back to normal and my energy levels came right back up! So I'm not sure if it was a virus or if I really was just exhausted, but it sorted itself out and I feel totally fine now. So there's hope!

    That being said - I second a) checking your thyroid levels and b) checking your vitamin levels too! Even if you're taking vitamins, something simple could be off that could completely throw off your energy.

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    I got a fit bit flex for Christmas. I eat pretty much vegetarian. I had seemed to be eating consistently, not skipping meals with some snacks. But I would feel tired and in pain from work outs, especially with pole.

    Then as an experiment, I recorded what I was eating on my fit bit dashboard. It turns out that as many times a day I was eating, I was only taking in an average of 800 calories a day! And some of those days working out for 3 hours! No wonder, I felt tired, looked drawn and was losing weight without trying to.

    In the last month, I've increased my intake and feel sooooo much better. My face doesn't have that drawn, tired look anymore. Plus it's been really fun to eat more food.

    Just something to think about.

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    Audrey_K, are you taking a daily supplement with 100% iron and B12? Cuz that was why I felt so sluggish, now I do it 5X a week cuz iron dosage goes by weight. Just throwing it out there, hope it helps.
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    Are supplements with fish oil an option for you?

    I'm an ethical vegetarian (would be vegan if I didn't crave eggs so rabidly whenever I try) and I just kind of turn a blind eye when it comes to fish-derived omegas. I didn't know my favorite gummy vitamins contained them until I switched brands and started to feel worse.

    I feel pretty bad about it, and couldn't eat fish if it resembled fish, but the supplements help every aspect of my well-being me so much that it's worth it to me.

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    This sounds like depression to me.

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    Are doing any exercise or physical activity? Do you get outside in the sun much?

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    Sounds like you hit a wall after exiting the industry. You went from working constantly in that crazy world to the snail's pace of domesticity within a couple of months. Now your brain isn't being stimulated in the way to which it grew accustomed during the years you spent dancing and escorting. It's quite the abrupt change. Either your brain is depressed from lack of purpose, or those years of being a workaholic sex worker are catching up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Sounds like you hit a wall after exiting the industry. You went from working constantly in that crazy world to the snail's pace of domesticity within a couple of months. Now your brain isn't being stimulated in the way to which it grew accustomed during the years you spent dancing and escorting. It's quite the abrupt change. Either your brain is depressed from lack of purpose, or those years of being a workaholic sex worker are catching up to you.
    You've also had quite a bit of instability this last year in your housing situation & work life which tends to wear people out.
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    Are supplements with fish oil an option for you?

    I'm an ethical vegetarian (would be vegan if I didn't crave eggs so rabidly whenever I try) and I just kind of turn a blind eye when it comes to fish-derived omegas. I didn't know my favorite gummy vitamins contained them until I switched brands and started to feel worse.

    I feel pretty bad about it, and couldn't eat fish if it resembled fish, but the supplements help every aspect of my well-being me so much that it's worth it to me.
    I know the fish oils help so much, I've had a lot of nutritionists try to push them on me... but I just won't eat fish for ethical reasons so I just feel like I can't take the pills.

    My multi vitamin has Vitamin D and B12 in it, but I don't take them separately-- it has 400 IU of vitamin D and 1000mc of B12. I think I will go to a doctor (I'm in-between GPs right now because I haven't registered at the new one in my catchment area but technically I can go back to my old GP) just to check on vitamin levels and perhaps I should only be taking the multi vitamin, not the extra supplements. But I've been vegetarian for a long time, almost a decade. I was vegan from the age of 16-19 and have been vegetarian for 6 years now, and I've never had this issue. So I'm surprised.

    I've had severe depression before where I was unable to get out of bed and had to go on medication, and this is not it. I'm generally a highly anxious, stressed out person and I can tell when my stress level is too high. Over the summer I was getting there but I haven't felt that way since the fall.

    If I had to guess I would say it's the weather. This is the first month that has been really rough for me. The fall wasn't that bad and December was cold but with the holidays it sort of took away some of it. January has been fucking freezing and I think February will be cold as well but supposedly is better. Luckily March is coming soon.!

    Oh, and I am not dieting or restricting in any way at the moment. My appetite is definitely low but I'm getting in a reasonable number of calories a day, somewhere around 1500.

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    I'm gonna throw in with those siding on winter/weather effects. It seems like a mild depression, and you've been treated before and have probably seen the warning signs before it actually has set in as full depression.

    Your caloric intake though sufficient for you body weight and activity level, didn't address the fat/carb balance. Your blood stream carries about enough energy for 20 minutes of activity, then by our body has to start breaking down fat stores. If you aren't consuming enough fats then your body has to ration the energy it will let you use. Fats and Cholesterol are both vitally important to the brain, and your metabolism will starve the rest of you to keep you brain functioning. Plenty of nuts eaten, and use oils in cooking. The cold will also cause you to need more calories. I know many buildings there do not use central heat and air like we have here so the chill in a cool room will up your calorie burn to keep you warm. (Remember those romantic evening walks I mentioned when you were worried about weight gain after surgery?)

    Anyway I'm betting on a mild depression that will pass when winter does.

    I tend to hibernate a little this time of year myself.

    Audrey, I'm kind of interested in your ethics for you diet, if you don't mind I may start another thread asking about it.
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    ^I think I eat quite a bit of fats though, not sure exactly what it works out to but I get saturated fats from cheese (I eat tons) so I know I'm getting cholesterol. Most of the fats I eat are monounsaturated fats, a lot of olive oil, avocados, and then some polyunsaturated fats like margarine, sunflower oil and nuts. My boyfriend and I always sit down at the end of the day and have a small bowl of ice cream together. And I'm definitely not short on carbs. My issue is more fitting protein into my diet but I always make sure I have a protein with every meal, usually 'mycoprotein' (Quorn products, I'm obsessed with them) or sometimes beans, cheese, peanut butter, hummus, etc. I had an eating disorder when I was in my teens and early 20s and went to numerous treatment centres so I've seen a LOT of nutritionists and done a lot of meal planning.

    We have central heat in our flat, we're in a new build so it's some high tech heating thing I don't understand, my bf loves technology-- before I lived here my flats SUCKED for that. One part of a room would be warm but somewhere else would be freezing. But in general my bf and I do have different ideas of what 'warm' is. He used to complain about my flat being too hot and I'm frequently complaining about it being chilly in here but I just put on sweaters on blankets.

    The cold definitely does depress me however. I used to go outside a lot and take walks, now sometimes I don't even want to go the tanning salon-- when I've gotten so pale my foundation looks like shit-- because I don't want to have to walk in the cold. And it gets dark super fast right now, I mean around 3pm it's dark now.

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    How about flaxseed oil pills instead of fish oil?

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    ^^I've tried that, but read that the fish oil is superior so I keep turning a blind eye. This is one article: http://www.betternutrition.com/fish-versus-flax-oil/.

    I'd be willing to try it again if you've know a particularly good flaxseed supplement though. I'd like to do away with animal products..

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    If you've been a vegetarian for a long time you might have stopped being able to absorb b-12. Even if you take a pill or eat red meat you won't be able to absorb enough of it. The iron will help short term but you will need a blood test to check b-12 levels you want a high count, most American drs are way off when prescribing this so beware. You will have to get wkly or monthly shots. You should be taking vit d3 specifically if you live above the sun belt. At least 10,000 iu a day. You cannot overdose unless you're taking 100,000iu. Take this with calcium for absorption. U can also try sam e for depression.
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