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    Default Question about doing Customs on C4S

    Hey guys!

    I read a bunch about people doing customs on C4S but I'm still confused about some things. If you know of a thread I can read or know the answers off hand I would greatly appreciate the help!

    I've only just started my C4S store so I've never sold a custom there but I now have somebody wanting one. I've sold customs through other platforms though.

    I always have my customers pay upfront for the video. Meaning I won't make the video until I've been paid.

    How do you have someone pay in advance on C4S? Do you have them tribute you? Or do you have them use an off site payment service.

    Do you deliver the clip via C4S?

    I was thinking of having them use the tribute feature to pay for all but $1 per minute of the clip so if I charge $6 a minute for a custom I would have them tribute $5 per minute and then once the video is made sell it at $1 per minute for them to buy.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    If the video will cost $100, I get them to pay $50 up front by purchasing a dummy clip, then the rest when the actual clip is upload.

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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    I believe it's against the rules to use the tribute option in exchange for a clip or photos. I don't sell customs through c4s anymore because I had so many guys making requests and when I made the video they decided not to buy it so just ended up being a huge waste of my time

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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    Thanks guys. On my southern charms I don't have to sell a custom through their platform I can accept payment outside of the site so unless I can find anything about it being against the rules I'll probably just keep doing it the way I do it now.
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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    I see a lot of stores accepting outside payment for customs right on the c4s platform, with the links to their site right there on the c4s studio page. Always ha seemed strange to me that they don't have a system set up for customs.


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    Honestly I'm ok with doing it on my own because I keep 100% of the earnings. It's why I love doing customs.
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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    I'm curious what payment method you ladies are using for customs. I have the worst time getting guys to pay with a moneypak even though its pretty simple.


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    I use gift rocket and amazon gift cards. I've had tons of guys mail me money orders as well.
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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    I use an off-site payment method. I use Verotel Flexpay preferably, which is on my own website's store. I also can do $550 per month on private loads via payoneer and occasionally, in a pinch, I use amazon but reading a few things here has made me think twice about that.
    Last edited by SophiaSylvan; 01-21-2015 at 06:37 PM.

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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    I would advise against accepting custom tributes via c4s because the guy has the option of a chargeback !!! I always use an outside form of payment !

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    Default Re: Question about doing Customs on C4S

    ^Um, guys can chargeback no matter what your method of payment. A chargeback goes through the credit card company, no outside form of payment is proof against that, should the credit card company choose to comply with the user. But I have heard it is against the rules to accept payment for custom videos or anything at all apart from a gift, via tribute.

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    I am considering the idea of directing them to ELM, and making them send me a "tip" via their message system, seems easier then escrow (sticking to escrow for people who find me on ELM course). I'm not sure if it will work though because they have to sign up. C4S SHOULD MAKE A ESCROW SYSTEM.... I wonder if they even realize they are losing tens of thousands of dollars every single month. I need a indie website I can sell customs through, without chargebacks, that also doesn't care that I don't cam, oh and the guy shouldn't have to sign up, that would be perfect.

    I've asked c4s support about customs, they told me to use another service for customs, I just don't get why they would turn away money... its almost like they don't realize other sites are using escrow for customs successfully.

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    ^Even if c4s ever did an escrow system, I wouldn't use it unless they took less than 15% for processing, and fat chance of that ever happening! I'm kind of amazed I seem to be the only one using Verotel Flexpay. Sometimes I grumble at the 15% they take but a lot of you seem willing to let the processors of your customs take much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    ^Even if c4s ever did an escrow system, I wouldn't use it unless they took less than 15% for processing, and fat chance of that ever happening! I'm kind of amazed I seem to be the only one using Verotel Flexpay. Sometimes I grumble at the 15% they take but a lot of you seem willing to let the processors of your customs take much more.
    I don't mind paying a fee, but I guess it would really only be worth it with chargeback protection on customs. Chargebacks are rare on c4s though, because they actually block customers who do it unlike most sites who seem to not care about chargebacks as much.

    Do you need a website to use Verotel Flexpay?

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    You need some sort of website, yes--though I don't think a paysite-- and you'd need to set up a store, which there are programs for that they recommend. I had to get a tech guy to program mine for Flexpay as it was beyond my basic html skills. It is quite a process but it's worth it, in my opinion, if you do a lot of customs. What are you using now, TDP? I think you said most of your income comes from customs? I've never had a chargeback in my store yet. In my website memberships, I've had a few, but never, ever for a custom. Lucky I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransdimensionalPrincess View Post
    I am considering the idea of directing them to ELM, and making them send me a "tip" via their message system, seems easier then escrow (sticking to escrow for people who find me on ELM course). I'm not sure if it will work though because they have to sign up. C4S SHOULD MAKE A ESCROW SYSTEM.... I wonder if they even realize they are losing tens of thousands of dollars every single month. I need a indie website I can sell customs through, without chargebacks, that also doesn't care that I don't cam, oh and the guy shouldn't have to sign up, that would be perfect.

    I've asked c4s support about customs, they told me to use another service for customs, I just don't get why they would turn away money... its almost like they don't realize other sites are using escrow for customs successfully.
    I just signed up for Customs 4 U, you could try them maybe? From what I understand reading their how tos the customer doesn't have to sign up, it looks like they get an account created automatically when they buy something I think.

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    Argh double post still trying to work out this system!
    Last edited by SophiaUK; 01-22-2015 at 06:15 AM. Reason: Double post

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    ^Customs4u is cool, except it charges the customer 40% on top of your custom fee. I think it turns off a lot of guys. I just keep my profile up there for any random passerby but I don't encourage my guys to go there anymore once I found out how much they paid. My client probably would have bought a 15 min custom for $150 from me, instead he bought a 10 minute one because he had to pay customs4u $140.

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