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    edited, thanks guys!
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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    I do consider that an extra personally. If your usual hustle normally works, why would you start offering more for the same price?
    It is not our job to make them finish, it's to be entertainment and fantasy. Read Hustle Hut on sales techniques... and don't go around offering more for the same price as the other girls, it's a good way to make yourself unpopular.
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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    and don't go around offering more for the same price as the other girls, it's a good way to make yourself unpopular.
    I want to print this on leaflets and do a PSYOP drop in dressing rooms around the world!

    But yes, OP, that would be considered an extra. And there are literally so many other ways to make money that are easier and less risky.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Not only would that be considered an extra in the vast majority of clubs and all that aside, it is also likely against your local bylaws. I'm not sure how active law enforcement is at your club, but that's something you should seriously take into account before offering this.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Read up on Hustle Hut, & get yourself sm sales books. Work on improving your conversational skills. Watch improv/standup comedy. If you're insecure abt your fitness lvl, play on the poles when it's slow to tone yourself up faster & up your endurance for stage shows. Offer shoulder massages in VIP, & esp if you're not very experienced w/ massages, use your inexperience & desire to practise on them to hook them in. As you get better at it, it's also an excellent way to burn time when you've sold a block. Those are the things that will help you build rapport w/ customers & increase your sales.

    If you really want to offer customers a 'get-off' option -- forget dancing. Cam instead, or put on your big girl panties & escort. That shit doesn't belong in the club, for all the reasons already mentioned.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    Read up on Hustle Hut, & get yourself sm sales books. Work on improving your conversational skills. Watch improv/standup comedy. If you're insecure abt your fitness lvl, play on the poles when it's slow to tone yourself up faster & up your endurance for stage shows. Offer shoulder massages in VIP, & esp if you're not very experienced w/ massages, use your inexperience & desire to practise on them to hook them in. As you get better at it, it's also an excellent way to burn time when you've sold a block. Those are the things that will help you build rapport w/ customers & increase your sales.

    If you really want to offer customers a 'get-off' option -- forget dancing. Cam instead, or put on your big girl panties & escort. That shit doesn't belong in the club, for all the reasons already mentioned.
    Agreed; Fluid exchanges do not a dancer make.
    Besides if you start doing this, another girl starts doing more, then other girls start doing more to compete. Learn how to sell. I did, yes it took awhile at first, now i have a skillset that I can carry with me for life- what skillset does an extras girl grow? none.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Does a bear shit in the woods? Not only does it make you sound like you're soliciting, if you don't "deliver" some customers might dislike that and retaliate.
    Also some of the house dancers might decide to kick your teeth in for making their jobs harder and putting them at risk.
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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Yeah that's not part of your job description. If you start doing that I guarantee you will eventually get caught, and that shit doesn't fly in the club.
    There are tons of other ways to make more money. Up your game a little. Read up on Hustle Hut. Get creative. Hell learn some new pole tricks or buy some new outfits to give yourself some momentum! Don't take the easy way out.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Ewwww....noone likes nasty sperm on the floor. Yes, it's an extra. Anytime seed is dropped = extra.
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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Yeah... anytime a dancer consents to a dick coming out of the pants I'd call that a pretty clear cut extra...

    I mean, touching it is worse, of course...

    If you give a customer an inch he'll take a mile. If you give them the mile upfront, that's no good. They'll probably assume you can be talked into 'finishing' them, especially when they get into the moment.

    Bad times in a strip club. If you're willing to go one step beyond allowing them to finish themselves, though, maybe consider erotic massage? A good friend of mine does this and says the customers are actually very laid back and undemanding. They know exactly what they're getting, and rarely push for more in her experience.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    And not to harp on this, but...

    You know semen has a distinctive smell, right? And you know how a long VIP can get kind of stuffy because you're moving around and there's two people breathing in a small space?

    I've had the misfortune of smelling that smell once because the dancer in the room before let the guy finish himself or finished him off. It was horrifying. This was in a crazy extras club so I don't think the hosts cared. But if your club isn't an extras club, people are gonna know.

    Nobody wants to smell strange semen.

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    relax guys, you're right i wasn't going to offer it for the same price tho just to be clear on that lolol

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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    ^ Okay maybe that was worded wrong... how about don't go around offering anything involving jizz at all?

    Not to go on a rant, and don't take this as directed at you OP, but this sort of thing is exactly WHY extras are so prevalent anymore: Some dumb girl decided that rather than try to learn sales skills or improve her appearance, she'd just offer extras.
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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Quote Originally Posted by brandysnacker View Post
    relax guys, you're right i wasn't going to offer it for the same price tho just to be clear on that lolol
    Right.
    I don't think the price is the issue here, at all. I think everyone's pretty clear on that. Honestly, I think you got some great insight & advice/info here, in a straightforward, non-judgmental, non-snarky way.
    So, please don't get all butt hurt now, thank you.


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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Also, you'd better hope that the customers you offer this to aren't assholes... Once his dick's already out, I feel like most guys will push even more to have you suck/touch it. And how many guys will just try to shoot on you and not the wall/floor? As someone who's been jizzed on before (accidentally, during a regular dick in pants lapdance) there are not enough baby wipes/alcohol in the world to erase that grossness.

    I'd be concerned about law enforcement too. If you offer this to the wrong person you could be arrested for solicitation/prostitution.

    In general I think when you sell rooms by saying "I'll do X" you're setting up an expectation for more contact. Guys will get X, and then keep pushing for more. If you keep guys guessing, you'll probably sell fewer rooms, but you'll be able to set your own expectations for the room when you're back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandysnacker View Post
    relax guys, you're right i wasn't going to offer it for the same price tho just to be clear on that lolol
    I know you said in another thread that you're just coming back after a yr off ... but the fact that you even had to ask whether X or Y 'counts as an extra', makes me question whether you've ever really been a dancer.

    Price is really beside the point here. Did none of the factors mentioned here occur to you, or were you really just that careless abt the potential negative results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooey View Post
    Also, you'd better hope that the customers you offer this to aren't assholes... Once his dick's already out, I feel like most guys will push even more to have you suck/touch it. And how many guys will just try to shoot on you and not the wall/floor? As someone who's been jizzed on before (accidentally, during a regular dick in pants lapdance) there are not enough baby wipes/alcohol in the world to erase that grossness.

    I'd be concerned about law enforcement too. If you offer this to the wrong person you could be arrested for solicitation/prostitution.

    In general I think when you sell rooms by saying "I'll do X" you're setting up an expectation for more contact. Guys will get X, and then keep pushing for more. If you keep guys guessing, you'll probably sell fewer rooms, but you'll be able to set your own expectations for the room when you're back there.
    This, esp. the bolded part.^


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    Default Re: would you consider this an extra?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    I know you said in another thread that you're just coming back after a yr off ... but the fact that you even had to ask whether X or Y 'counts as an extra', makes me question whether you've ever really been a dancer.
    Actually, ya never know... there was a girl at my last club who ranted about extras girls, and then we found out she was giving hand jobs... she legit did not consider hand jobs to be "extras".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    I know you said in another thread that you're just coming back after a yr off ... but the fact that you even had to ask whether X or Y 'counts as an extra', makes me question whether you've ever really been a dancer.

    Price is really beside the point here. Did none of the factors mentioned here occur to you, or were you really just that careless abt the potential negative results?
    first of all, i am considering the negative results..... i thought that was the whole point of having the conversation. secondly, yes, i have been a dancer, i am successful at it, however as someone mentioned extras have become pretty common in my market. personally i do see how this would be an "extra' but for me, morally, having no physical contact makes it not really a big deal. but as others have pointed out there are several other reasons not to do this.

    and again i'd like to point out i hadn't done this yet so there's really no reason to question whether i'm a dancer or have done extras or anything like that. i did consider all of what you brought up, just wondering how other dancers thought of it i guess. i thought this was a safe place i could ask a question like that.

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    [QUOTE=ScarletKitten;2719663]Ewwww....noone likes nasty sperm on the floor. Yes, it's an extra. Anytime seed is dropped = extra.[/QUOreal

    (i know i come off bitchy but i totally don't mean this that way lol) do you think if a guy cums in his pants during a ld that that is then an extra? when i worked before, i would never try to get them to do that on purpose but it happened a few times and i always hustled them for a big tip. extra or just an unfortunate work problem?

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    not sure how me agreeing with you all makes me butthurt but i get it it's the internet lol

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    [QUOTE=brandysnacker;2720160]
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    Ewwww....noone likes nasty sperm on the floor. Yes, it's an extra. Anytime seed is dropped = extra.[/QUOreal

    (i know i come off bitchy but i totally don't mean this that way lol) do you think if a guy cums in his pants during a ld that that is then an extra? when i worked before, i would never try to get them to do that on purpose but it happened a few times and i always hustled them for a big tip. extra or just an unfortunate work problem?
    It depends how often it happens, lol. If you have it happen regularly then you're probably providing too much stimulation. If it's a once in a blue moon event I'd consider that an unfortunate accident. If a guy comes in his pants during my lap dances it's because he's trigger happy, poor bastard. I'm not grinding. Whatever happens in his pants is his own sad business.

    In my years of dancing I've only known of this happening twice. The first time they guy was just being gross and I shouldn't have danced for him anyways. What he did I had him kicked out for. The most recent time the guy tried to warn me but he was too late - I was doing my usual booty shaking over his lap and he said "Oh shit, stop" and I tried to move away quickly but he just looked horrified an apologized, tipped me extravagantly and made his (presumably) soggy way out.

    I wouldn't hustle for a tip, for some reason that seems like somehow reinforcing that it's ok to jizz your pants as long as you pay for it. I don't generally make guys pay me for breaking rules, I make them leave.

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    Even implying any kind of sexual stimulation can land you in a heap of hot water. If you're going to drag yourself down, don't drag clean dancers with you. Things are rough enough already.
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