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    Ugh! I am beyond fed up with this other dancer I work with. She is such a cunt & a half. She not only butts in on me & a custy's convo (my hustle) but she does it to other girls also. My club is smaller & not much clientele coming thru the door on most nights so I am def an aggressive dancer & make my $$ by getting rooms & reg dances but when this particular girl works, she's a fucking nightmare! If she's been talking to a custy then either walks away & goes to someone else she'll somehow think that she has every right to walk back up to him even though I'm talking to him & try hustling him also. I'm beyond pissed at her. She also talks shit about me & a few other dancers where I work to customers which doesn't help us in any way. I don't want to end up in a confrontation or a fight with her BUT I'm not about to stand around & let some nasty looking broad take $$$ from my purse on any given night. Other girls have talked about her doing this to them also. How in the hell would you guys deal with this?! I do much better $$$ wise when she isn't there. I can't change clubs right now bc my car is in the shop & have no other ride except to the place i'm currently at :/ A few other girls have been increasingly cutthroat also from what I've noticed but nothing like her.

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    Default Re: Ugh! How to NOT kill a cutthroat bitch?!

    when she approaches you and a custy, smile and sweetly say 'hey hun, we're a bit busy right now. come back in a bit ok?' if she keeps it up, fuck the $$$ and have the customer complain to management. if you have a reg willing to do this for you, great. how's the management there? can you go complain to management with the other girls as a group? it's good that you have (hopefully) some allies in this with other girls.

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    No not really It's pretty much every man for himself there. She feels "entitled" to the custy if she's been talking to him long before me which is stupid. When you walk away to someone else he's fair game to someone else IMO! I doubt seriously the mngmt will do anything bc she is one of the top earners. Most of the girls there have also started to do this to each other which has caused fights in the DR on certain nights. There's not really enough custys thru the door on most nights anyways BUT I have no choice but to stay there right now until my car gets fixed.
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    All you can do is stand your ground like alice_island suggested. As soon as she comes up, you have to, very sweetly but forcefully, tell her to go away. Use your words and your body language to shut her out of the conversation. If that's not effective, try working opposite shifts if at all possible.

    If other dancers are doing it in your club though, it sounds like it's a straight race to the bottom and only a matter of time before it becomes impossible to make money without a posse of dancers hustling the same guy at once.

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    ^ I just ignore her bc she's kind of hood & I know she'll totally try & start a fight with me bc that's just how she is. I never know when she's working so I can't go by that alone. I just work harder when she's there & try to snatch up as many custys as I can before she gets to them. And yes Shanna, it's pretty much gotten to the point on certain nights where a posse of dancers are trying to hustle the one guy that isn't spending LoL It is def a challenge at my club & it's not fun. I hate confrontation esp at the club bc I hate feeling tension afterwards even if I'm in the right. I'm def gonna hold out & move on as soon as I can get my stuff straight.
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    I have a better idea for you; unless that's the ONLY club around...go work elsewhere. That place sounds like a total nightmare. Your mental sanity is priceless, and no amount of money can buy it.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    I have a better idea for you; unless that's the ONLY club around...go work elsewhere. That place sounds like a total nightmare. Your mental sanity is priceless, and no amount of money can buy it.
    It's THE only club around that will hire me & also has expensive rooms in which I usually bank from. I don't know if you read my post thouroughly or not BUT I can't get to another club right now bc I'm without a car.
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    Default Re: Ugh! How to NOT kill a cutthroat bitch?!

    ^ Would it be worth it for your sanity to earn more money someplace else and spend a bit of it on a taxi?

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    i left a club over this. girls need to realize men pick up on this shit. it's part of why spending has gone down- because the men find it really fucking off putting. i've had customers tell me this. sorry you're stuck. sounds like management doesn't know how to do the job. it's only a matter of time before custies DON'T come back because of shit like this.

    how do the other girls handle this crap when it's done to them?

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    Default Re: Ugh! How to NOT kill a cutthroat bitch?!

    Argh, I have a similar situation at my club... she interrupts and is super aggressive and has even messed with other girls $$$$ in the club. It's infuriating and so not on. I'm also super new to the biz so I had no idea how to handle it when she interrupted out of nowhere while I was hustling a guy >=[
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    Quote Originally Posted by alice_island View Post
    i left a club over this. girls need to realize men pick up on this shit. it's part of why spending has gone down- because the men find it really fucking off putting. i've had customers tell me this. sorry you're stuck. sounds like management doesn't know how to do the job. it's only a matter of time before custies DON'T come back because of shit like this.

    how do the other girls handle this crap when it's done to them?
    Ha! Simple. They fight downstairs in the DR accusing one another of "stealing" their customer etc ect. Unfortunatley no there isn't another club I can try within a reasonable cab ride away. Otherwise I wouldn't have made this thread :/ And yes I do believe these guys ARE in fact picking up on it bc they seem to think it's entertaining & have no interest in spending money , they'd rather see a cat fight blah :/
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    Oooh, sorry, that's no fun! I once worked with a girl just like this (I wonder if it's the same girl?!) and it was super stressful. I minded my own business and tried to stay away from her until one night she talked to a monogamous-level regular of mine and spewed all this vile nonsense about me to him.

    I confronted her in the dressing room and told her I had heard a horrible rumor about her. I explained that a customer said she was going around talking shit about me and other dancers, but I knew that she would never, ever do something so trashy, petty, and ugly. She actually looked really terrified to have been called out, so I think part of why she was so extreme was that no one ever tried to set her straight.

    She apologized and I didn't have any further problems from her, aside from her general obnoxiousness, until she got fired. You could try something similar, but I think for the most part you're just going to have to not let her bug you.

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    Default Re: Ugh! How to NOT kill a cutthroat bitch?!

    kaninchen- good solution!

    gothbarbie, do you have a housemom who handles dr fights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxGothBarbie View Post
    ^ I just ignore her bc she's kind of hood & I know she'll totally try & start a fight with me bc that's just how she is. I never know when she's working so I can't go by that alone. I just work harder when she's there & try to snatch up as many custys as I can before she gets to them. And yes Shanna, it's pretty much gotten to the point on certain nights where a posse of dancers are trying to hustle the one guy that isn't spending LoL It is def a challenge at my club & it's not fun. I hate confrontation esp at the club bc I hate feeling tension afterwards even if I'm in the right. I'm def gonna hold out & move on as soon as I can get my stuff straight.
    Well it sounds like the girls are stupid if most are on one guy not spending. My advise, stay on the floor at all times( I never go in the dressing room except at the begining to throw on my stuff and get out) I've had girls do this but usually the customer will say I'm talking with michele now. I would approach her in the dressing room one night before she gets on the floor and kill her with kindness. Tell her I've never had anyone come over when i'm speaking with someone. Can you please not do that it's costing me money. if that doesn't work just say sweetie we are talking right now and ignore her and go back to your convo with the customer. if he doesn't engage with her she'll go away. hopefully. Good luck!

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    Thanks everyone!
    Yes, michelle I'm always out on the floor & out of the DR as much as possible. The confrontations happen at the end of the night if there any & I get dressed as fast as possible & split. They hate me bc I'm prob one of the more aggressive hustlers there & am always selling rooms and I'm assuming they don't understand my hustle (which ain't my problem)
    No we don't have a housmom & i'm kinda glad haha I think that would make matters worse.
    I'm just going to ignore her & hope to keep landing whales when it's busier. I am not planning on staying at this club much longer though bc it iS fucking w/ my sanity.
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    hahaha just thought I'd entertain some of you with this little update from last night! So one of the other dancers in my club says to me when I walk in that I should try this other club across town "bc it's alot busier than here" I smiled & said you know I'm just fine where I'm at but thanks. It's soooo hilarious how these girls are trying to run fierce competition out the dam door LoL
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    Customers notice this and a lot of them don't realize that they can say "go away" to her. I had a girl try to do this with one of my customers and I told him that he should tell her he's here to see someone else, no thank you. He had no idea he could do that, and she doesn't really bother with my customers anymore. Kind of a roundabout way of telling her to fuck off, as opposed to doing it yourself and causing unnecessary drama. You still look good because customers want you and not her, without having to look like an aggressive, territorial bitch.

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    Hope this doesn't sound mean, but make a list of what you have that she doesn't. Are you amazing on the pole, make great money in VIP, look way younger than your age. Then, look at it and realize that she HAS to hustle hard, she doesn't have what you do. It's like when I was jealous of girls who would make a grand a night in VIP. Most did extras, many had kids who each cost how much a month? Many had legal issues to pay for, so they were just gonna hand that money right over. It's like, I'd rather make three hundred, cleanly, and keep most of it-vs make a grand and have it disappear, wash, rinse, repeat.
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    ^ This girl def looks a bit on the rougher side & is younger than me BUT is def hood as fuck. Her outfits are usually kinda tacky & just the way she carries herself i just not that attractive. From what I've noticed she does is she'll try & make the best of friends with these guys, drink w/ them for awhile then try for the vip room. Me on the other hand, I look much younger than her in the face, I actually wear makeup & style my hair whereas she doesn't ever. I never talk or hangout with custys for more than a song at most & thats on a slower night. I usually just cut right to the chase & get the rooms asap. I'm much more boring on stage than her & guys tip her more bc she is more petite than me. I'm all cute & bubbly while she's kinda hood & tomboyish like. She apparently punched one of the other gals working there recently over the other one stealing their vip room away from them *rolls eyes*
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    Some People. Gosh. I'm so sorry you are putting up with this nonsense.





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    Jesus! That's ridiculous. I'm thankful I work at a more "upscale" club and the more hood girls always gravitate towards the more hood guys. I have had a few girls that sort of fucked with me early on but I've made it pretty clear that I will have nothing to do with them now. Let's just hope she gets fired ASAP.

    And keep working your hustle, girl! Most guys don't like it when girls talk shit/etc about the other girls.

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    ^ well truthfully this is a more upscale club I work in. We don't get that many "hood" type custys thru the door usually (thankfully) She & I hustle the same type of guys.
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    Agreed it's way easier if you can convince the customer to dismiss the other girls vs you doing it yourself.

    This way if she gets an attitude with the customer then management is more likely to step in an reprimand her.

    If You must do it yourself then simply say something to her in a firm direct manner like "excuse me but we are in the middle of a conversation right now and prefer to be alone" or say something to him like "let's go in the back so we can have some privacy" to get away from her.

    If You think she'll start a fight then stay on the main floor where managers are and someone can quickly intervene. In the dressing room the other dancers and the housemom are most likely not going to break up a fight.

    Most bitches are a lot of talk. The ones who have common sense will not fight cause they don't want to lose their job / only source of income. But you may want to brush up on your fight skills juuuust in case you have to defend yourself.

    Its sad because you would think customers would be turned off by these ratchet bitches but most of them are clueless. Some customers are aware of the tension and escalate it because they want to feel like studs having girls fight over them.

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    Kind of comes with the territory. It's one of those things that eventually ends up playing itself out. Either she gets the hint that the custy isn't into her and really wants to dance with you...OR you both sit there and play tug of war... make NO $$ and end up wasting a lot of time. Either way.. you're gonna have to figure out a way to deal with her or she's going to keep messing with you.

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    Agh, sorry to resurrect, but had something similar happen to me tonight.

    Was sitting with a guy who was there with a friend...my guy was really into me and was tipping me and talking about going upstairs. Two other dancers come over and start talking to the friend...then introduce themselves to my guy and start talking to him. To which I say "hey, we were in the middle of a conversation..." At this point my guy comments on how catty this behavior is.

    THEN I get called to stage. While I'm on stage, my guy promises to wait for me and hides out in the bathroom...then comes back and one of the girls starts talking to him (!) Anyway, I went back over to MY customer and we arranged to go upstairs. So I made money off him. But then the other girl LITERALLY FOLLOWS US UP TO THE ROOM and asks him to pay for her and the other girl to go with his friend. So ugh. My guy said no and was telling me how rude and unattractive he found those two over the whole thing.

    Anyway, these two are "top earners" or whatever so they feel entitled. But I'm just so mad. They ended up getting their guy to take them up...and then my guy wanted to leave...came back up to say bye to his friend and close his tab with the waitress and was finagled into getting an hour with those two girls. I'm furious basically. Not sure if it's worth taking it up with a manager or what...

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