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    Very weird, I make 90% of my money off of foreigners (well, Europeans, Canadians, Australians and S. Americans) and have never had a customer who didn't respect my boundaries. Are you outlining your boundaries BEFORE starting the dance?

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    Some foreign men are used to high mileage, bath houses, brothels, and what not and think thats what they're going to get over here.

    And then some of them use the language barrier as an excuse like they pretend they don't understand you just to get away with more.

    If he doesn't ask about what's allowed and what's not allowed then you have to make sure he knows upfront. Otherwise they assume they can get away with whatever they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy1 View Post
    We don't even get to the dance. Once I go in for the sell they let me know that they want extras and I just leave.

    I wish I could figure out how to sell to them because they make up a good portion of my clubs customer base.

    I don't see too many other girls selling dances to them but I see enough to believe that I'm probably just not their cup of tea.

    Also, a lot of these guys don't even tip girls on stage.
    Ugh! Waste of space then they'd be better off at a brothel or with an escort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy1 View Post
    I know! I was so irritated buy a customer who only wanted to buy a dance if he got to suck on my boobs too that I asked him why not just hire an escort before I walked away.

    Unless they approach me I've started to avoid these guys. I don't want to stereotype them all but I don't want to waste my time or take a chance on messing my mood up. By not talking to them sometimes I feel like I might be losing out on money. Especially on nights like last night when the majority of men in the club were foreign.
    Well you actually lower your closing ratios talking to time wasting men. Sometimes you have to discriminate when your money is on the line. Buuuut if you want to keep hope alive and not generalize then keep trying I'm sure not all foreign men are like this.

    And they don't hire escorts so they can avoid the screening process. Dancers who give extras don't escort for whatever reason I guess cause they are scared of getting caught by law enforcement or don't want to be classified as hookers. So it's easier on both ends to hook up at the club. But too many people doing this messes up the strip club economy and would eventually bring the heat aka law enforcement to bust the club.
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    When you say foreign, what country are most of them from mainly? Do they speak fluent english? At my club on the weekends the ratio of mexicans to Americans is about 9 to 1. This makes it hard to make money If i were to refuse them because if I rule them out im also ruling out most of the customers. These guys speak very broken English. The ones who do ask specific questions about what will happen in the back, I just pretend like I can't understand what they are asking me. I play stupid and they usually will take the chance and get at least one song with me before they realize I don't put out. I've found that most though don't ask questions. I can just walk through the club and the mexicans come to me and pull me into the back without me having to sell them. It's like that all night. As soon as I get done with one, another is waiting for me. It is nice because of the fact they don't speak English they don't require the dreaded small talk that American guys want. If they are not just flocking to you and you have to actually talk to them, just make it simple. "Hi, my names ****come to the back with me so I can get naked and dance for you. It's only $20 (point to dance room).


    As far as the slow night hustle, the guys that come in on week nights are typically lonely and there to spend some money, not to just be out and party like alot of guys are on the weekends. When a guy comes in make a big deal about it. Tell him how excited you are to finally have a (nice/sexy/fun) guy like him to spend time with. This will make him feel special. After you talk for a bit, tell him you are going to dance for him on stage. This is a good test to see if he's interested. If he wants to spend money on you he will follow you to the stage and tip. After the stage set tell him you're not really into sitting at the bar anymore. You only want to spend time alone with him. Tell him let's go back to this private room and we can be together uninterrupted for an hour. Tell him how happy you would be if you could take him back. If he says no, act hurt. Be like "oh...I'm sorry you don't feel the same way about me as I do for you....I'm going to go, I don't want to bother you. (Walk away kinda bummed out). This display will make him think that you were truly into him and then it will dawn on him that "this girl really likes me, doing the room will show her that I like her too". They will start to believe you were hurt about not getting time with them and that it wasn't about Just getting their money. Give it a little time, go talk to someone else/go on stage. Do NOT approach your target again though. Completely ignore him. He will eventually come find you and want to do the room. Somtimes guys at the club like to be told what to do but other guys will be turned off if they feel like you are selling them on something. These guys have to feel like the idea to take you in the back was theirs.

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    When you say foreign, what country are most of them from mainly? Do they speak fluent english? At my club on the weekends the ratio of mexicans to Americans is about 9 to 1. This makes it hard to make money If i were to refuse them because if I rule them out im also ruling out most of the customers. These guys speak very broken English. The ones who do ask specific questions about what will happen in the back, I just pretend like I can't understand what they are asking me. I play stupid and they usually will take the chance and get at least one song with me before they realize I don't put out. I've found that most though don't ask questions. I can just walk through the club and the mexicans come to me and pull me into the back without me having to sell them. It's like that all night. As soon as I get done with one, another is waiting for me. It is nice because of the fact they don't speak English they don't require the dreaded small talk that American guys want. If they are not just flocking to you and you have to actually talk to them, just make it simple. "Hi, my names ****come to the back with me so I can get naked and dance for you. It's only $20 (point to dance room).


    As far as the slow night hustle, the guys that come in on week nights are typically lonely and there to spend some money, not to just be out and party like alot of guys are on the weekends. When a guy comes in make a big deal about it. Tell him how excited you are to finally have a (nice/sexy/fun) guy like him to spend time with. This will make him feel special. After you talk for a bit, tell him you are going to dance for him on stage. This is a good test to see if he's interested. If he wants to spend money on you he will follow you to the stage and tip. After the stage set tell him you're not really into sitting at the bar anymore. You only want to spend time alone with him. Tell him let's go back to this private room and we can be together uninterrupted for an hour. Tell him how happy you would be if you could take him back. If he says no, act hurt. Be like "oh...I'm sorry you don't feel the same way about me as I do for you....I'm going to go, I don't want to bother you. (Walk away kinda bummed out). This display will make him think that you were truly into him and then it will dawn on him that "this girl really likes me, doing the room will show her that I like her too". They will start to believe you were hurt about not getting time with them and that it wasn't about Just getting their money. Give it a little time, go talk to someone else/go on stage. Do NOT approach your target again though. Completely ignore him. He will eventually come find you and want to do the room. Somtimes guys at the club like to be told what to do but other guys will be turned off if they feel like you are selling them on something. These guys have to feel like the idea to take you in the back was theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Some foreign men are used to high mileage, bath houses, brothels, and what not and think thats what they're going to get over here.

    And then some of them use the language barrier as an excuse like they pretend they don't understand you just to get away with more.

    If he doesn't ask about what's allowed and what's not allowed then you have to make sure he knows upfront. Otherwise they assume they can get away with whatever they want.
    I think this is why it's easier for me. The language thing. I'm not American and speak a handful of languages so it's much easier for me to convey my point. I'm actually more comfortable with other foreigners than American customers.

    That being said, I do discriminate towards Indians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy1 View Post
    Anyone else have this problem? I've started to completely avoid these men because I don't want to waste my time and I want to keep my mood up.

    Any tips on this?
    You're not alone. If they're south Asian (India, Bangladesh, Pakistan) I don't deal. The American born guys are alright, but I've had problems with the foreign ones 99% of the time.

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    ^This is true!

    I had a regular (in 2011) who was Canadian born, but his parents were from northern India. He did know how behave in the club. I made good money from him because not many dancers would approach him. He was awesome, too: he helped me get ready for my Security + test and all. I really don't mind Indian customers that much, they're 50-50 IME.

    The worst foreign dude I had was a German dude. He became dangerous! Like, "I'm going to kill your American husband and take you to Germany with me" dangerous.





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    ^The foreign Mexican guys are bad too. They think $20 can buy them sex. I was doing a dance for one and I turned around and felt him pulling at my thong wtf. So I turned back around to face him and he had his dick out. That was my worst experience with one. Sometimes they're hit or miss though, a few of them are alright but most expect tons of contact or $20 sex.

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    Oh, see when I think foreigners I don't think Mexicans and Indians, that's just... Mexicans and Indians. By foreigners I mean my main customers in the past week were Swiss, Australian, Canadian and Bulgarian. And I never dance for Africans unless they're Moroccan, Egyptian or S. African. Not to sound like a horrible person but I just avoid black men altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy1 View Post
    I think I'm going to keep discriminating....I just need to figure out who but without wasting a bunch of time on them. Preferably before I even sit down.
    I feel ya. Go with and trust your intuition.
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    I've also started avoiding 'fresh off the boat' Indians and Mexicans. If they look professional/Americanized I approach but that's it. If I'm desperate and they grab me, I make sure to be really rough with them right off the bat so they don't get any ideas. I had one fresh Indian grab me for a dance yesterday and kept asking why I would get naked for him but not fuck him "because it's the same." I told him this isn't India and to shut the fuck up and enjoy his dance. Europeans and Asians are cool though. c:

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    I had the worst experience with a European guy who was cool on the main floor but as soon as I got him to our 'champagne room' he turned into a horny aggressive perv, pulled his dick out, and was like ok I'm ready to f*ck you.

    I'm like wth!?!

    He lost his Cotdamn mind to think I was a) going to fuck him b) going to to fuck a stranger raw c) going to sell my pussy for less than x number of dollars

    I mean he was so nonchalant about it that it made me believe he had most likely done this before.

    I was confused about how he would think he could do that but I realized he never mentioned wanting to fuck me before we made the deal and since he didn't say anything about it I didn't think that was on his mind.

    Now I know that even if they don't say anything still gotta let them know before hand what they can and can't do.

    I know not all of them are like this but this character definitely ruined my perception of European men.
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    Fucking foreigners are a waste of time around here. Most of its middle eastern, but there's also quite a few Indians and an occasional Mexican. They all ask "you do $100 fuck? $40 suck?" Damn creeps. They're ALL a waste of time. The only dances I've sold to them is where I've let them get incredibly touchy, did hard grinding, or took my bottoms off. Even then I spent the whole dance avoiding their dick. Even if I /DID/ do extras, I couldn't imagine it being with/for that dirty trash.

    Asians, on the other hand, are great. They're a little cheap, but very polite. For being in an area with a very small Asian population, I've sold dances to quite a few of them. IME, theyre also very respectful, even when shitfaced drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammiMinasu View Post
    Asians, on the other hand, are great. They're a little cheap, but very polite. For being in an area with a very small Asian population, I've sold dances to quite a few of them. IME, theyre also very respectful, even when shitfaced drunk.
    Yep exactly. I LOVE me some Asian boys!! Also if you tell Asians you're in college or starting your own business they will always give you more $$ to 'help with tuition.'

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    It depends on what country customers are from.

    Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis - arrrgggghhhh, I can spend HOURS,complaining about them! The thing is there are a lot of them in my club and since I am one of few white girls, I make decent money from dancing for them. So yup, my greed won't let me stop dealing with them,sigh. But it's so fking annoying to approach them when you have to put their hands away from you and they always ask for extras. Not that they refuse to get dances when I tell them that nothing illegal is included. I mean,sometimes they agree to spend money,sometimes they don't. But yeah, their horniness is just...:/ And they can't stop begging to fuck them while getting lap-dance. Oh, and they try to kiss girls all the time,bleh.

    Also I read a lot of negative posts towards Mexican custies but dunno - they seem pretty broke and cheap for me,indeed, but nobody can beat south Asians in perviness.
    W.European custies are not high-spenders that often,from what I have observed but they are alright,anyway.
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