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    Default Anyone else having slower traffic on streamate?

    I still get a steady stream of customers coming in but definitely not as much as I did even last month.

    I noticed that the other models in my category are not as chatty as they used to be either, they usually always look bored.

    Also most of the people that come into my room now are people who I have spoken to or done shows with before.

    Is anyone else experiencing a sudden drop in traffic on SM?

    Is this also normal in camming or is this a sign of streamate going downhill?

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    Default Re: Anyone else having slower traffic on streamate?

    Streamate goes in cycles, like any website. Right now I'd say overall numbers are down 10% over the last 2 weeks. Earnings peaked around January 15th and have noticeably fallen since then. This happens every few months though.

    Main factors:
    1) Seasonal/Cyclical Consumer spending habits
    2) Overall economy
    3) Major traffic-driving affiliates hopping around like fruit flies to the next big thing...they'll be back. Your specific category or niche may also have had a traffic bump or dump.

    However, that being said, we do have a few models that have steadily increased their earnings in that same time period. Low earnings tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. A few bad days means the model doesn't spend as much time on a site means the traffic dips means less earnings...

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    Default Re: Anyone else having slower traffic on streamate?

    Not to thread jack, but I'm curious for your perspective as a studio owner Katy. What times of year/month/week/season/what the heck ever do you tend to see drops or peaks in traffic? It may not be true, but it's nice to know in advance so I can hit it harder before a possible slow period.

    You're right about the self fulfilling prophecy bit though. When earnings suck, I go elsewhere or cam less. Less time on cam means lower placement and less income. That feeds back into crappy earnings. Hate it hate it hate it.


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    I would recommend staying in your room. When you focus on other models, it takes away the focus/attention which could be spent to convert the guys in your room into taking you private/exclusive = sales. It basically fucks with you!

    I am never bored. Looking "bored" could be a hustle for some. The constant chatty and happy hustle can wear you out really fast. You are a Transsexual, that's a built-in fetish in itself. If you are pretty with a penis, you don't need to do very much. Believe it

    Streamate isn't the only cam site, try other sites. I don't blame the site when I am not making money. Could it be something you do that may have caused the decline?

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    I still get a steady stream of customers coming in but definitely not as much as I did even last month.

    I noticed that the other models in my category are not as chatty as they used to be either, they usually always look bored.

    Also most of the people that come into my room now are people who I have spoken to or done shows with before.

    Is anyone else experiencing a sudden drop in traffic on SM?

    Is this also normal in camming or is this a sign of streamate going downhill?
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    Default Re: Anyone else having slower traffic on streamate?

    Streamate has it's ups and downs. I've seen so many threads where girls say it's been the slowest ever. It's best to stay positive and don't stop working. Traffic for me lately has been great. Some days I make great money where some days was a struggle.


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    are you new to camming and is this ur first "slump" ur going thru ? like everybody has said camming does have its ups and downs everybody has their own hustle and things that work for them outfits that work for them times of day certain days of the week. a lot of people say camming is harder then what it used to be and has dropped drastically over the past two years on all sites and that gold shows have really hurt the market on SM. i cant say for sure because next month ill be starting my third year camming and i wasnt around for the pre GS days but heres what i believe - porn will not go away there are too many horny and lonely men on this planet who have money and are willing to pay for our services. Camming has replaced the subscription sites in a big way theyre still around but theyre not top top dogs of porn sites anymore. Camming is the next evolution of porn to talk and watch someone perform just for you live. I think that camming is a bit over saturated compared to how it used to be from what i have read and talked about with others who have been at it awhile. It is not impossible to become a top girl on any site and u got in the game "too late" it just may mean that it will take longer vs if u had started a few years ago. Theres a lot of girls who go into it thinking that they can make 10000 a week likes those recruitment ads say so they join start and reality hits and a lot of them stop or they get real with it and become committed to doing what it takes to make it work. I started camming part time in November of 2012 and went full time March 2013 when i went full time i thought as long as i put the time and effort in i could just start logging on and making 100 a day well long story short that didnt happen and i realized that camming is a business its a sales job treat it like one - advertise put in the hours to get what u want out of it and before you know it it will take u shorter and shorter to get ur money goals and more of it too and u'll have lots of people who are willing to pay more and more for you the more you become established.

    Also men are visual creatures what i believe from researching and experience from leaning the hard way is you need to look like money to make money make sure ur cam space and u look visually appealing. make the guys want to envision themselves their with you and give them a nice place to play in and make sure u look nice hair and makeup on point and crisp nice attire .

    I could go on into tech and stuff too but i think that would be side tracking the thread a bit and this post is already pretty long and i need to get ready to go and start my cam day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KatyBoleyn View Post
    Streamate goes in cycles, like any website. Right now I'd say overall numbers are down 10% over the last 2 weeks. Earnings peaked around January 15th and have noticeably fallen since then. This happens every few months though.

    Main factors:
    1) Seasonal/Cyclical Consumer spending habits
    2) Overall economy
    3) Major traffic-driving affiliates hopping around like fruit flies to the next big thing...they'll be back. Your specific category or niche may also have had a traffic bump or dump.

    However, that being said, we do have a few models that have steadily increased their earnings in that same time period. Low earnings tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. A few bad days means the model doesn't spend as much time on a site means the traffic dips means less earnings..
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    For me its about 50% self fulfilling prophecy. If I dont think im going to do good I go on with a bad attitude which shows.... its really hard to fake a good attitude when the past few days or weeks have been bad but after the first few shows the fake good attitude turns into a real good attitude

    Its just the normal ebb and flow of SM
    A few years ago one week all of a sudden my hourly got cut by 30% overnight.... I was like OMG SM is dying...the next week was my best to that point...
    I can almost tell when SM or affiliates are promoting heavily just by the number of guys coming in....its usually confirmed by the guys say "this is my first time on this site", all you can do is hustle them and hope they come back.... if guys who have spoken with you or have done shows with you before are coming back you're doing good. Just keep converting them to sales. On slow days thats how I make most of my money...through them, sometimes not directly though. I have a lot of guys who do 3 minute shows every week but a lot of the time while they are doing their 3 minute show a new guy will pop into private and stay....Who knows if that new guy would have gone prvt if I wasnt already there. Camming is a snowball effect. Stay consistent, dont worry too much about the traffic from day to day or even week to week... stay consistent, keep your head up...youll do fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    Not to thread jack, but I'm curious for your perspective as a studio owner Katy. What times of year/month/week/season/what the heck ever do you tend to see drops or peaks in traffic? It may not be true, but it's nice to know in advance so I can hit it harder before a possible slow period.
    This is only based on our "averages", but we experienced 2 major peaks over the last year and 3 major slumps. Granted I'm just working with 14 months of data now, and we have a few "1st row models" but not on par with KGB for example, so their peaks may be different.

    Top weeks: 1st week of January (started ramping up 2nd week of December), 3rd week of August (slow ramp up since basically April) - both of those almost broke us being "prepayment".
    Bottom weeks: 1st week of February this year, 3rd week of November, and sometime in March I think last year (but this was due to major SM technical problems, just that week was 50% down).

    Best times it depends...if you can compete with the "prime time" models, then that's the best time for you also. If they're not on, then pretty much everyone else stands a better chance...so right before noon or in the 2am to 4am time slot.

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    Default Re: Anyone else having slower traffic on streamate?

    This time last year was my highest earning period, this year... not so much. I'm also working a lot less, but have noticed I am getting less new traffic and mainly doing shows with regs. Cams and FWC are bringing me more new traffic than SM at the moment. I just think it comes and goes in waves.

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    [QUOTE=KatyBoleyn;

    Best times it depends...if you can compete with the "prime time" models, then that's the best time for you also. If they're not on, then pretty much everyone else stands a better chance...so right before noon or in the 2am to 4am time slot.[/QUOTE]

    this is what i noticed too. im EST and i know ur PST so ive going on at 7 am my time till around 1 pm - 3 pm my time. today it slowed down a lot by around 11 but i made 150% of my daily goal so i was ok to log off yesterday it started taking a dive at 12 and i pushed it out till 1 a few days since i started working mornings i stuck it out 3. theres A LOT more traffic during this time in the day for me compared to 9pm - 2 am my time witch is when i was on for awhile and really struggling . the daytime guys are a lot more generous too ive gotten lots gold tips ' just for being sexy' they BS less IMO generally talk to me more and are more friendly vs the majority of the guys in the nighttime who in either lurk and refused to talk to me or were just being dicks and or free loading.

    during this time of the day i start at the middle of page 1 when i got on at 7 and get pushed down lower and lower until im about the middle of page 2 witch is my nighttime spot my traffic dies off to the point its not worth it for me to stay on and by then i have my daily goal or over it or at the least close to it enuf to make me content with the day .
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    Default Re: Anyone else having slower traffic on streamate?

    thank you all for your replies.

    It seems in my case it was just an attitude adjustment and spending a bit more time online. It seems I had a steady stream when I just worked normally and stopped worrying about things in my personal life and streamate and I ended up meeting my daily goal + and getting more traffic.

    I loved all of the info you girls brought to me attention though, it will keep me from getting so worried next time. I am def going to seriously consider a second site I have had on the back burner..

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    As testament to the 'adding other eggs to the basket' theory, I'm transferring my CMD account over to Katy's daily pay program as I type this to you. I've found that when big box sites are slow, indy sites are usually popping or, at the very least, not nearly as slow. One major stress I've had is that when I need money right now, I can only work SM or MFC (my daily pay sites). If those are slow, CMD and my other indy stuff is always popping--without fail--and then I'm like 'well, need money asap, so gonna have to turn down all of these easy as fuck indy shows. Awesome sauce! Not!'

    Not to make a plug for daily pay specifically, but just for looking into new programs and not assuming it's going to be slow/bad because of the self-fulfilling prophecy aspect. If I need money asap, I kind of shoot myself in the foot and imagine it'll be slow (negative thinking). Even when I'm not, I'm putting all my eggs in one basket by depending on just a few sites to pay me on time by the end of each month. Having more options is SO liberating and great for combating the stress of slow days on another site or sites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    Not to thread jack, but I'm curious for your perspective as a studio owner Katy. What times of year/month/week/season/what the heck ever do you tend to see drops or peaks in traffic? It may not be true, but it's nice to know in advance so I can hit it harder before a possible slow period.

    You're right about the self fulfilling prophecy bit though. When earnings suck, I go elsewhere or cam less. Less time on cam means lower placement and less income. That feeds back into crappy earnings. Hate it hate it hate it.

    Im not Kathy (obviously) but I got curious about this when I started camming back in 2006-07 and I started to make charts. I have lived both in western Europe and the Americas while keeping these charts and I honestly have a really good perspective of the best times and seasons but well........I kinda dont want to share the information cause it took me years to accumulate it and its my asset.

    But I will tell you this

    Every day you only need one or two really good customers to make your goal so keep reminding yourself of that and forget the traffic in you room.

    People run in herds. If you ever worked in retail then you might have noticed that you would have hours of almost nothing and then 10 customers at once! Its true for cam sites to so when you hit a slow spot remember that it to will pass and is not a reflection of your entire day. (unless you log off and dont go back on < self fulfilling prophecy at work here)

    If Monday is a slow day Tuesday will be amazing! I dont really have slow days anymore its more that I have days where I feel like im pulling teeth to get guys to take me prvt. or join a gold show. The next day or the third day is always way easier! Believe me its true and all my info shows it! guys cant stay away from porn to long!

    The thing to know is that all my charts show me the same thing. Every week has the potential to be a great week to make money but not everyday does so you need to plan to be on as often as you can and you need to remind yourself over and over. "I only need one of two clients to make my goal, This lull in traffic just means the next herd is on its way and Tomorrow will be better!" Make this your mantra!

    My charts also show me what days, times and weeks are the most profitable.......thats the info I dont want to share but over all I dont see (or dont have enough information to see) a trend in profitable months! All Months have the potential to be the busy month of the year so I tend to look more at days and weeks.

    If I had access to a bunch of girls cam time vs. dollars dollars vs. traffic, traffic vs time/day/week/month, etc. etc. I might get a totally different picture but that would surprise me cause 8 years of tracking has painted a pretty clear picture of trends for me and that is why I say I look more at days and weeks then months when Im planning on making some cash.

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    [QUOTE=DeepThoughts;2729071]Im not Kathy (obviously) but I got curious about this when I started camming back in 2006-07 and I started to make charts. I have lived both in western Europe and the Americas while keeping these charts and I honestly have a really good perspective of the best times and seasons but well........I kinda dont want to share the information cause it took me years to accumulate it and its my asset.

    THANK YOU !!! THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!! Like I just said in another post. I'm sooooooo tired of people posting wanting to know when the best day/time/month/ site is. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. I do the same as you, I chart my days. I know what has been working for me and what has not. I think it's ludicrous that there are ladies here that feel the need to "be friendly and have people like them" by giving away their best day/time/site/ whatever so that it gets saturated with other ladies working. Not that it will work for all of them, but when you hit the lotto so to speak do you want eeryone coming to you with their hand out???? I sure as fuck don't.

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    I find it's completely random. There are no guarantees that you will make or not make money on any given day. The only way i see that it could be possible to predict is if the number of girls online is low, if a big site goes down so all the boys go to another one, a server goes down and a huge portion of girls can't cam for that time etc. and vice versa for it being slow. However, even if there are a huge number of girls online you still have your regs so even that isn't a reliable statistic for predicting your own earnings. So many variables.
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    [QUOTE=Mare;2729121]
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    THANK YOU !!! THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!! Like I just said in another post. I'm sooooooo tired of people posting wanting to know when the best day/time/month/ site is. WTFFF
    Phew! I actually wrote the end of that paragraph like 20 times because I was worried about it sounding rude. I think I feel a bit guilty because I have gotten a lot of information from SW and I feel I owe some information back. Im not going to feel guilty anymore that there other like me out there that are really "working" this job and want what they have learned protected.

    To be fair Issabelle didnt ask just anyone she was specifically asking a studio and that makes sense cause a studio could have the ability to track a lot of information that we dont have an opportunity to see. I was just throwing out my two cents in the hopes that others might get that a positive attitude and a good business head are the best way to take web camming from "bit of extra cash" to "really successful career".

    Thank you darling your response really made my day.

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    Mare, DeepThoughts, I feel you girls. I may vomit if I see one more thread from asking someone to spoon feed them the 'best' times to work in a given day or what not. I track my daily/weekly/hourly earnings by site myself, but I've only been doing it for about a year myself.

    You're correct in assuming that I'm asking Katy specifically because she has a studio and access to a massive amount of income history. One girl can have the highest earning day of her life and another can have the absolute lowest on the same site and in the same niche. Individual trends are just really hard to track because there isn't nearly enough information and what works for one I can almost guarantee won't work for another.

    My specific curiosity was in terms of figuring out overall annual trends, although I did leave it super open in my phrasing. Even if the historic highs/lows don't hold true like clockwork, it's kind of nice to know when about it was slow in years prior. I use those as 'reality checks' that remind me the crazy good times go hand in hand with crazy bad times. Kind of forces me to work extra hard in advance just in case the trends hold true.

    Dunno if that makes anymore sense, but figured I'd clarify. TL,DR: I hear 'ohmigod it's SO slow' nearly constantly but it's usually a very small sample size. Katy has the perspective of both a model and a studio with large quantities of data, so overall trends are easier to track and that's nice to have on my stats-happy radar. Also, straight up curiosity aimed towards someone who has more data to go off of.


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    I hear you. Asking Katy is much like asking sm themselves or even the Alexa rankings where there is data mined together. No harm in that. I just mean the individual, where do you work, who do you split with, how much do you make, when are you online. That's the ones that get to me.
    It's great to share, but not over share. Build a business and just give away all your hard earned work to someone who's not putting the time in like you had to. Plus ladies here don't seem to think that when they ask those questions that people won't be pointing them in the WRONG direction. Misinformation to your competition is golden, as any business knows.

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    Frankly, I've noticed a specific cause of traffic decrease and sudden drops. I definitely don't get the same kind of traffic I used to get as it's definitely noticeable how so many guys like to come in and just park. As if they forget this is a paid cam site, not just your average chat site. Going along that trend, I remember SM being known as the pay per minute private based site and not so much the freebie hang out type of site with tokens happening. It's very noticeable to me that some conditioning has happened as it seems I'm expected to freely show things and tipping for it comes as a surprise. I get WAAAAY more comments about my rates than I used to and there's been this shift in those who seek a one on one experience which I thought was the objective.

    Ima go ahead and say that myself and several other models are affected should there be a broadcast that's pretty much a free show that has one almost forgetting it's a pay site in the first place. That shit is annoying. It's mostly a distraction as I don't think most are spending any money. I just think that there was definitely a demand for the one on one experience and now it seems that's being fizzled out? Terrible idea.
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    Too much talk about this site, and too many new performers for the same customer base. There you have it.

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    I've had some hiccups lately with SM while switching over to DP but I will say that aside from SM's eff' ups I have no one else to blame but myself. I haven't put many hours in over the years but I still expected the same earnings. I've realized that in order to improve my earnings I need to improve my laziness and actually work which I plan to do starting today. No more bsing! If one site is too slow I will hunt for others or lean on my own independent listings. Sometimes you have to chase that money.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    I've had some hiccups lately with SM while switching over to DP but I will say that aside from SM's eff' ups I have no one else to blame but myself. I haven't put many hours in over the years but I still expected the same earnings. I've realized that in order to improve my earnings I need to improve my laziness and actually work which I plan to do starting today. No more bsing! If one site is too slow I will hunt for others or lean on my own independent listings. Sometimes you have to chase that money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvyAdams View Post
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    BB, I almost came from seeing you one day. I was perving sm bbs and all of a sudden I saw this Alicia Silverstone look-a-like circa Clueless and I was like, "Damn, that Ivy is FOINE!" Honestly, you give Alicia a run for her money!




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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    BB, I almost came from seeing you one day. I was perving sm bbs and all of a sudden I saw this Alicia Silverstone look-a-like circa Clueless and I was like, "Damn, that Ivy is FOINE!" Honestly, you give Alicia a run for her money!
    You're making me blush <3 Like, totally. Thank you for the sweet compliment!
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