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    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wir...ested-29060045

    great now people will think ...

    parent + webcam girl = bad parent


    anyways this is just sick , who makes money of lactating only to starve there kid.. Damn at least use the money you get from lactating to buy formula!
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    fucking...goddamn
    i helped her open a gofundme
    i promoted her.
    i donated to her.
    i let her vent to me and i defended her


    and then i find this out
    i feel so sick. and tricked.
    like literally fucking sick
    so now I'm getting hatemail on twitter .__.
    this is really stressful.
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    From the article, "Williams (the father) told investigators he thought the baby had lost some weight, but he didn't call the doctor 'because that was Amanda's (the mother) responsibility,' the document said."

    The father is a piece of shit. He let the baby die while his wife was lactating for cam customers. He should have took some responsibility and called the fucking doctor! What a piece of shit. It's not just the woman's job to take care of a baby.

    MissQ, I am so sorry you are dealing with the backlash of this. Please don't feel that you could have prevented this, you had no way of knowing this would happen! The blame is 100% on the parents. Some people should NOT be breeding.
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    Dumb question bc I see mothers nursing toddlers but does the milk have nutrients strong enough for a child that age? then add on extra milking for shows?

    I don't get people
    There is no justice

    Quirk, girl, if you're like me, you will give the world to people to not see them suffer STOP.THAT.BULLSHIT.
    I had to learn the hard way.

    I dont think it will mirror the image of a camgirl being a bad parent. So many of us, past, now and future have and will raise great kids.

    It is unfortunate that people do focus on the bad.
    Usually the kid shows signs the parent is a bad parent. People can tell when a child is taken care of in most cases.

    Anyways thats just fucking sad, all kinds of fucked up.

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    ^^ breastmilk is the best milk you can give your infant.. Especially the very first milk (colostrum it had ver good nutrients you can't get afterwards with the breast milk.. I breast fed mine until she was 2 years old and I'm so glad it's a bond unlike any other ...nothing against mothers that don't bf , I know some aremt able to..
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    It's like the woman who neglected her ranch and let all her animals starve because she was inside playing Farmville all day on her computer.

    Some people are just morons and should not be responsible for anything but themselves. This is really fucked up and so sad.







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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel View Post
    Dumb question bc I see mothers nursing toddlers but does the milk have nutrients strong enough for a child that age? then add on extra milking for shows?

    I don't get people
    There is no justice

    Quirk, girl, if you're like me, you will give the world to people to not see them suffer STOP.THAT.BULLSHIT.
    I had to learn the hard way.

    I dont think it will mirror the image of a camgirl being a bad parent. So many of us, past, now and future have and will raise great kids.

    It is unfortunate that people do focus on the bad.
    Usually the kid shows signs the parent is a bad parent. People can tell when a child is taken care of in most cases.

    Anyways thats just fucking sad, all kinds of fucked up.
    If she had an issue with her milk supply, she shouldn't have been doing lactation shows. A lot of moms don't produce a ton of milk when their babies are tiny. Ssoome do, and therefore can do lactation shows ASAP, but my guess would be that she wasn't producing much milk, but didn't realize it because hadn't been back to the doctor since the baby was born (according to articles)


    So this is just so backwards and bizarre to me. I'm a doula and I work with women in high risk situations- which is part of the reason I offered to help her..
    You're right, I need to be a little less trusting, I go a biiiit overboard with the help sometimes >___>
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    My heart hurts after reading this, that poor child, that poor soul lost. So many men and women who can't have kids and so many parents who don't care at all.
    MissQuirk, I would maybe take the time to write something out on word that you can screen shot and then tweet that talks about how upset you are about this, and all the lies they told you, and how other peoples actions aren't your fault, you were only knew what you told, and you will not apologize for trying helping someone who you thought you knew, just because that person ended up being a horrible person without your knowledge. Don't lose your helping heart just because some hearts can't be helped. You did nothing wrong helping a person you thought was a good mother, because good women help women, and you didn't know that that woman was also a monster.

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    I asked about milking bc I can still produce a clearish liquid and mine is a teenager. The Dr says its normal w my fucked up hormones. There is nothing there but the liquid


    AND I GOT CONFUSED their 2 year old was taken into custody. I thought I read she was BF a 2 year old until I found this article
    Sorry for my confusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissQuirk View Post
    fucking...goddamn
    i helped her open a gofundme
    i promoted her.
    i donated to her.
    i let her vent to me and i defended her


    and then i find this out
    i feel so sick. and tricked.
    like literally fucking sick
    so now I'm getting hatemail on twitter .__.
    this is really stressful.
    You were cheated. Just ignore the hate. I wouldn't think you would ever. Delete any tweets of involvement and report her to gofundme? Maybe make an apology tweet? I don't think you did anything wrong babygirl. You were trying to do the right thing, because you are a good person! <3





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    There were so many things wrong with this situation just from reading this aside from her breastmilk...

    She didn't take any prenatal vitamins ... Those are FREE!! There are so many free clinics like pph

    She never went to dr. Appointments before or after?? I don't care if you are doing the whole natural mama thing ,ypu still need to go to basic checkups in the end your not a dr. And the dr. Well know if you and the baby are on track .

    Now let's say she was bf the baby nonstop.. If her milk wasn't satisfiyng the baby the baby would have been crying non stop even after she's done bf it...

    There are many programs that help woman and infants like WIC they support bf moms and provide huges cases of formula to moms for free.. Also they provide parenting classes... Which I'm sure they needed!
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    The thing is this couple must have been in really rough shape in the first place to even be in the psychological space to neglect their children. Not coming to their defense or anything, if I saw them in real life I'd run them over with my car. It just really makes you wonder how people even get to that state.
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    It happens more often than you think. but what those poor people could do. The pressure of society is so strong, its just too difficult. We are complicated with our own stupidity, with things we dont even need. But this happens. Its bad for poor side, but they just cant get out of there, which is pretty sad and upseting btw. I am upset about the pressure as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyori View Post
    The thing is this couple must have been in really rough shape in the first place to even be in the psychological space to neglect their children. Not coming to their defense or anything, if I saw them in real life I'd run them over with my car. It just really makes you wonder how people even get to that state.
    Drugs, lack of psych meds when they'd help, etc.. This is so sad and it's not like she HAD to do milk shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLovely View Post
    Now let's say she was bf the baby nonstop.. If her milk wasn't satisfiyng the baby the baby would have been crying non stop even after she's done bf it...

    There are many programs that help woman and infants like WIC they support bf moms and provide huges cases of formula to moms for free.. Also they provide parenting classes... Which I'm sure they needed!
    Exactly. Hungry babies are usually very loud. I can't imagine letting my baby cry and cry that way. If she had nursed the baby enough milk production would have increased and have been more than enough to even feed the baby and store extra in the freezer for bottles (that's how twins and triplets can be fine with breast feeding).

    Even if she had some problem, there is no way they could have not noticed that the baby was hungry and gotten it to the doctor for help, if they had been paying attention.


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    Some babies do not cry when hungry. They would sleep forever and ever and if you aren't forcing feedings, or do regualr feeding no matter what, and your not attentive, things can get out of hand pretty fast. Being knowledgeable and making doctors appointments is a must, and can point out problems like this. I'm not saying this is what happened, i'm just saying there are many scenarios, and we really don't know.

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    I wonder if she was on drugs, and therefore when she breasts feeds the baby was on drugs too. Maybe that is why she didn't want to take it to the doctor? They drug test babies if their parents look drugged up, in most states.

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    This is purely my assumption, but the behavior of both of the parents screams substance abuse. If the father was in such a sedative mood that he did not find taking the baby to the doctor his "responsibility", and the mother didn't give enough fucks about the child that she kept milking for money. It would make sense as to why that poor baby wasn't screaming, and demanding food.
    I believe what very little breast milk she did give to her child, would in turn cause the baby to be in a sedative state as well. No screaming, no crying, just sleep.

    Fuck them both! I am a phone actress, but I did get started with camming to SAVE my family (while breast feeding). I too come from a poor town, and have had to figure it the hell out. But there ain't no way in hell my spouse wouldn't feed our children. You can offer me all the money in the world, but when it comes to me and mine. I will feed them, I will suffer for them, and I know most of the men and women in this industry know exactly where I am coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransdimensionalPrincess View Post
    I wonder if she was on drugs, and therefore when she breasts feeds the baby was on drugs too. Maybe that is why she didn't want to take it to the doctor? They drug test babies if their parents look drugged up, in most states.
    makes perfect sense

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    I'm not ashamed to admit my size A's just weren't up to the task with the giants I managed to bring into the world (my pelvis did only slightly better). Baby formula is still a thing though, and we have living proof it works well. I think focusing on "using the boobs elsewhere" is kind of a weird thing to get from this situation, and is basically just a side show for the morally vicious to focus on.

    Without knowing more about their situation I really can't pass judgment. These people did lose their children due to their own complete lack of parenting skills, though many other factors played into it I'm sure. The educational, legal, social services, and healthcare systems (and the politicians that designed them or prevented them from working well) all complemented this spectacular example of failed parenting.

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    How does this happen? Drugs. Just look at their mug shots, they are clearly on drugs. If the baby hadn't died from starvation, the chances of it dying from some other means seem pretty likely. The fact that she did lactation shows had nothing to do with the baby dying. She could have not been a cam model at all and still neglected to feed the baby. I highly doubt she was just bringing in sooooo much money drugged out on cam lactating that she couldn't feed the baby.

    She received no medical care during the pregnancy, and none after. She was probably on drugs the entire time.

    Fucking, ugh.

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    And this? No. No. No. No. There are WAAAAAAAY too many resources available to help the poor that it's an utter cop out to say that "what could those poor people do?" Gee, lets see? We are so poor, I know! Lets spend what money we do have on DRUGS! Yah! Perfect idea!!! I completely understand that it is extremely hard to bring yourself out of poverty and that life can be very, very hard. However, doing drugs and willfully making your situation 10 thousand times worse is no excuse. Yes, people get addicted to drugs and they need help. Again, there are so many free resources available to help people recover, saying they had nothing they could do is just wrong.
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    Even if she was lactating on camera, what she did with that milk? I remember i saw couple of situation similar to that, where young couple were playing a computer games and forgot that a baby is on the balcony and a baby got frozen, even thought they forgot a baby for like an hour, which ofc flew while playing pretty fast. They wasnt on drugs, just very busy gaming.

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    Yepp it screams drugs to me, too.

    I didn't breast feed either, and formula is pricey but I rarely meet a person that doesn't qualify for WIC which provides formula....and from what she told me, they DEFINITELY qualified. Maybe she was suffering from really heavy PPD? Who knows? :/
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    My gut screams drugs. I've been around enough people in life to know. It's one thing to do it to yourself, but it's just disgusting when a helpless person relies on you. Maybe she wasn't breastfeeding cuz she knew she'd pass the drugs on?
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    I saw when she was posting about being homeless and living in their car with a small child. Then I saw when she lost the baby and was posting his full name on her sites and asking for money for help. I felt like it was more than a cry for help, but she was using the situation to benefit her. I was shocked to see that she returned to camming so quickly. As a mother I could not imagine losing my child and wanting to go back to camming, especially not so fast. It seemed like she wasn't getting ANY of the free help you can get in the U.S. Instantly she would have qualified for medicaid, food stamps, and WIC. I was in a bad place when I was pregnant and I sought out help and got it amazingly fast.

    While I didn't agree with how much information she posted about her child dying, I felt bad for her, but seeing this amazes me. She could have even gone to any church and they could have helped her with many of the things she needed for having a child, but she chose to be selfish and now a poor baby suffered. It makes me feel ill thinking about that. She couldn't take care of her first child properly, that would have been a tip off that having another is ridiculous. Given her financial status, she could have gotten free birth control and a child's life would have been saved. I know it seems harsh to say, but good god, she allowed her baby to die so no pity can be spared for her.

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