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    I recently moved here and couldn't help but feel like I was reliving the horror of working in Las Vegas all over again. Way too many girls and a level of hustling & business smarts that I simply don't have. I am currently searching for an alternative state to live in.

    I just talked to a friend in the business who did CBJ type of services in New York on tour. She said that she won't be going back to New York again because the money isn't worth it like it used to be. She said 5 years ago, it was great money but now it's not. The friend said that one of her clients told her it's not the same here anymore because there is groups of trafficked gorgeous european girls that are charging around 350 an hour. She said guys were aware they were trafficked here and saw like 10-12 guys per day. One of the trafficked girls confessed to this client that she was forced to see at least 10 guys per day and wanted to go home . That story sounds insane. Is this true about the area??

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    Yeah I'd believe it.

    You might do better working other major cities in New England.

    I feel terrible for those trafficked girls, but the culture of that "world" hasn't changed much in decades. It is what it is.

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    That's horrible. How do these ppl get away with doing that and not getting busted, is???? I hope they rot in hell.

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    Yes I think you are right. I thought the claims were outrageous. But it must be well hidden for obvious reasons. I totally regret not researching thoroughly before this move. It sounds sick as ever for these poor ladies. Couldn't imagine being taken from my home. In LA I think the k-girls somehow profit from it but these european girls in ny don't it seems .

    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Yeah I'd believe it.

    You might do better working other major cities in New England.

    I feel terrible for those trafficked girls, but the culture of that "world" hasn't changed much in decades. It is what it is.

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    Is DC a stable area to work? If anyone has worked there for longer than multiple tours? I had nice times there while I toured and really enjoyed the people. I'm just not sure how stable the area is long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    That's horrible. How do these ppl get away with doing that and not getting busted, is???? I hope they rot in hell.
    They'll be having sex with waaaay more than ten guys in prison.
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    Human trafficking is a huge problem and growing all the time, especially in eastern European countries. I don't know what the impact has been in the US, but in Europe it has negatively affected the legal sex related industries. The legal sex workers(strippers, escorts, and prostitutes) are seeing their earnings kept artificially low because of all of the trafficked girls being brought in from the east. It is such an issue there that I am sure it has been having the same negative impact in the larger cities here.

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    I think I agree...I have seen prices so low to the point they are the same price in LA!! Scary. Prices in new york are beyond insane for basic fruit. I am attempting to get a cheapo house to pay off out of this state to avoid being broke forever and in this industry. Having a stable house makes it easier to survive on a lower income salary. Ready to retire!

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    It came out in the media a few years ago that these girls are brought in via the New York mob. You can google it.

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    It probably is true, the girls in NY that are most in demand are the imports from Europe and they get taken advantage of. Its not just NY, its all big cities. The good thing about NY is that it is close to so many places...NJ,CT,Westchester and Rockland counties further upstate, PA,etc. I have a lot of friends who live in NY and work in those areas and they make money bc it is actually easier to work there. Its less cut throat but you still get men with money and there is work to be done. But it is much more simple than it is in NYC.

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    They've also destroyed our business. Many clubs they work in are now horrible. So I really don't feel sorry for them because as residents of this country we have our own bills, problems, etc.

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    And New York State is pretty cutthroat. One club I know of many new girls get beat up, robbed, stuff peed on,etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiegirl View Post
    Is this true about the area??
    Yes. NYC has large Russian populations so there are girls who are in this country on student visas/other visas who choose to work in clubs/sex work since it's lucrative. It's usually the only place they can work since they legally can't work anywhere else besides jobs at their college campus. However I have heard rumors personally from Russian friends and acquaintances I have danced with of certain girls in our clubs that were forced to work there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    That's horrible. How do these ppl get away with doing that and not getting busted, is???? I hope they rot in hell.
    The roots of human trafficking are pretty old- the traffickers get girls who are basically sold by their own families, OR tricked and drugged. (Or intimidated, a whole other discussion.) Basically a girl with no where to go is eventually going to stay voluntarily in her slavery until she is either too old to be useful, or runs away. (Or worse.)

    Certain cultures have attitudes of some people being "born slaves" so some predatory people don't feel bad about exploiting others. (The concept of "pursuing happiness" and equality that Americans strive for is not shared by many other cultures.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyla19 View Post
    They've also destroyed our business. Many clubs they work in are now horrible. So I really don't feel sorry for them because as residents of this country we have our own bills, problems, etc.
    I heard that they have ruined clubs as well. I remember watching a documentary on trafficked russian girls being taken to a van to strip clubs to work? It all sounds crazy and so fucked up. But in my opinion, if I had a quota to reach and my life was in danger if that quota was not met, that's a tough spot to be in.

    I think their is a certain level of hustle with the big cities that is very tough to compete with or the industry has become very oversaturated quickly. I was told that the expensive ladies with over 100 reviews are asking certain clients to write them perfect reviews so guys naturally flock to them thinking they are god's gift. That's not something I think is professional to do but I am considering it now since I am relying on my credit card once again lol. I also read somewhere that the major review board accepts money from certain providers or agencies that pay them to only allow positive reviews on that particular girl or the agency's girls.....and negative reviews are posted against their competition. If you look up Aphrodite's Companions court documents after they seized Aphrodite's email account, it talks about email conversations where free sex was traded with positive reviews as well.
    Lol no idea who has that chunk of change laying around to go to review boards and for ads everywhere. Ads are so damn expensive.

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    Everything you have heard is true. I tried working in New York last year and it was a total disaster. Too many nasty girls, too many cheap guys (who thought they were getting everything under the sun for $200), and too cops running around. I don’t know how it was years ago but I know now it is a waste to go up there seeing as the Eastern European girls have pretty much finished off what was left of New York’s supposed once booming adult industry. Those girls are so cheap and nasty; I don’t feel sorry for them at all. And that crap about human trafficking is true but to a point because like others have already pointed out most of those girls come here intending to escort. Pretty much once you start seeing the Eastern European girls coming in that’s when you shit is going downhill fast.
    Now in regards to D.C. the market is pretty good up there but I’m sure that won’t last very long.

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    I lived with a Ukrainian girl that worked in a club with trafficked girls. She said there was an actual van that would come for them near the end of the night and drop them off. Since she was Ukrainian she said they would sometimes drop her off near our place or by the train to not seem suspicious, but if she asked them directly she would have to pay more or they'd tell her they were too busy. She actually hated me and the other person that we lived with that wasn't white, but she was dead serious when she told us this. She told us they were forced to earn a certain amount and they would usually stick to their group. I looked it up once and there were 2 major sites reporting on it (the NY Post and NY magazine) but when I looked for the links months later they were no longer available. It was about 1 club in the city and 1 in Queens, they didn't show the club she talked about though. It's some shady shit.

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    I need to add that not all hobbyist are huge fans of Eastern European girls b/c 1) some DO have ethical problems with using a trafficked girl 2) some have an understanding of numbers & realize the EE girls see a lot of clients, thus making the services seem risky/undesirable & 3) some American guys don't care for the personality/look.

    I see no reason to treat these women poorly. It's the laws job to make the clubs comply with laws on paper. That discussion in & of itself is a huge can of worms when discussing NYC. IMO I've always cared for EE girls as people & still will.

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