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    So if I wanted to retain a dancer for the whole night (~6pm - 2am), what would be a fair price point to offer her? It could be any combination of dances in the vip or drinking/conversing on the main floor during that time. Should I ask her her average nightly haul for the day in question and just go with that?

    Anyone actually try this before?

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Ask her what she usually makes a night on that particular night and then hand it to her. I wouldn't go with less than $1000. Where are you located?

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Just ask her. The club may ask her to continue her regular stage rotation, but she may be able to buy off stage for her shift, too. Offer a dollar amount, then tell her you want to pay her fees and tip outs on top of her flat fee for the night so that she is guaranteed a minimum amount for the whole evening.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Random other thought... that is a very long shift in StripperLand. I don't know any dancers that work 8 hours, so that may influence the price. If she normally works 4-5 hours, you may have to offer significantly more than her normal hourly average to get her to stay that long... personally I would find it very draining to be responsible for entertaining someone for 8 solid hours and would probably expect a price differential.
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    I'd check to see if the place has 30/60 minute rates and go from there. Seems like you may be wanting the "girlfriend at the strip club" experience or something.
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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Ask her. Tell her what you want. Its a very long time period your asking for though. Make sure you feed her too...

    Plus bear in mind the obvious, she will still need breaks like in any other shift. Bathroom, food, check her phone etc
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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Do you really want to sit in a strip club for a whole shift? Really?

    But if you are determined to do that, whatever number you are given here will be high. Most dancers don't consistently make a $1000 every night. Seriously, if you want to spend the whole shift with her, go on a weeknight when it is slow. If you are spending money on her, she'll keep coming back to you, and you won't have to prepay her, so you can leave if you get bored with her.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Are you thinking of a particular dancer who routinely actually works from 6pm to 2am (as opposed to the seemingly more realistic 2pm to 10pm, 9pm to 2am, 11pm to 6am, etc) Or are you wanting to ask a night shift dancer to come in during day shift to suit your schedule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Do you really want to sit in a strip club for a whole shift? Really?

    But if you are determined to do that, whatever number you are given here will be high. Most dancers don't consistently make a $1000 every night. Seriously, if you want to spend the whole shift with her, go on a weeknight when it is slow. If you are spending money on her, she'll keep coming back to you, and you won't have to prepay her, so you can leave if you get bored with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ushar85 View Post
    So if I wanted to retain a dancer for the whole night (~6pm - 2am), what would be a fair price point to offer her? It could be any combination of dances in the vip or drinking/conversing on the main floor during that time. Should I ask her her average nightly haul for the day in question and just go with that?

    Anyone actually try this before?
    It is called "buying off the list" it is done all the time. $1,000.00 is reasonable.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    VIP rate x the amt of hours. I charge $500 an hr, so do the math. But I'd say minimum $2k.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    8 hours * 300/hour = I'd want $2400, plus a tip if I'm dealing with you all night.

    Anything less than her usual hourly rate is too little.

    $1000 bucks for 8 hours is pitiful. She'd have better luck with three 1-hour long VIP's who tip moderately well.



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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    I agree with Kochana. Pay her her VIP rate x the amount of hours. Don't ask her what her nightly average is and just give her that. And please don't just give her $1000. That equals out to $125/hour, which I am sure she could make just working the floor and doing stages.
    If I were you I wouldn't give her a bargain amount of $ just because it's a large chunk of time. I would say $2200 absolute minimum.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Idk. I would never do something like this, but I'm pretty confident that I could go into almost any club that I've visited in the last few years and buy almost any girl off the list for the night for $1,000. Very few dancers are constantly selling, since slower periods, bad runs, sales buildups and breaks are all part of most nights. I would also buy her food and drinks and perhaps even cover the house fees so that she could walk away with it free and clear, but that's probably as far as I would go and I'd be surprised if most girls would refuse that deal. Based on everything I've seen and heard in clubs over the years, $1k in take home cash is a great night for a lot of girls in a lot of places.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    After reading so many dancers on here complain of leaving with 100-200 bucks, I suspect that most would jump at 1000. Heck, I'm amazed at how many dancers don't have a working car, or struggle to pay rent. I think the dancers on this site are not typical of those you meet in the wild.

    The VIP Rate * 8hrs suggestion just makes me smile.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    I think you should be careful about asking the ladies here how much you should give. You don't ask fish how to become a better fisherman. I agree with gameover that logically they should accept 1000 for the night. I've not had as much luck doing this because they don't always think like a business person. Even though they may leave with just 200-300 at the end of the night, they will always remember very clearly the one time that they left with 2000 or more. It's the lost opportunity cost in their mind that makes the deal difficult. I've ended up doing shorter term deals with multiple girls easier. It's better to drop 4000 but spread it around then try to convince a single girl for the entire night. If a regular of her's shows up then the deal goes sideways.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Unfortunately, I have yet to have someone buy me for the whole night but when I have seen it with other girls, they just bought the amount of hours in VIP. I don't know why it would be any different? I've seen maybe the bar giving some free drinks/a free bottle or something but they never skimped on the girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newb2 View Post
    Unfortunately, I have yet to have someone buy me for the whole night but when I have seen it with other girls, they just bought the amount of hours in VIP. I don't know why it would be any different? I've seen maybe the bar giving some free drinks/a free bottle or something but they never skimped on the girls.
    It's because the customers and you view this very differently. We look at it as giving you more $ than you can expect to make on an average night. We see value in guaranteed money. You are looking at it as being paid for the time you're spending with us either by the dance or hour in VIP. That's why these kinds of offers don't work often. And of course, the customers are looking to spend less than your VIP rate for 8 hours.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Customers quickly forget that I'd rather work my tail off for 4 hours, make $1000 on OTHER customers, and go home early than sit around for 8 hours with one dude who is under paying me.

    I think it would very much depend on the girl and the location of the club, but personally I'd feel like I was selling myself too cheap if I took less than my hourly rate. I seriously would rather go home early having to work slightly harder than double my time in the club with on PL. All. Night.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Retain? o.O Kinda odd word choice hahaha.

    But seriously, here's how I look at it...

    On the one hand, say we are at my club hypothetically, the champagne rooms are 500/hr. I make 300 of that 500. Say I work 6pm-2am, that's eight hours. 8 x 300 = 2400. There is a possibility, with luck and acting fast that I can make 2400 from 8 different customers not including tips and not taking into consideration that I make 400/hr if the customer pays cash (they usually don't.) Going off of this, there is a possibility for that dancer to make over 2400 from other people (whereas if you are offering 1000 that is less than half of that...)

    SAYING that, it is highly unlikely that that dancer will make that much on a standard night (meaning no big conventions in town, no regulars who spend a lot...) so depending on the night and the dancer (and how much she usually makes), she MIGHT accept your offer. It can't hurt to ask and negotiate. Personally, I would meet somewhere in the middle to show that you do realize that by spending the whole night with you, she is risking losing money.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Be sure to check with her about any cuts or tips she'll be required to pay to the club, depending on how you two work it out. A customer could spend $1000 on VIP time with me and I'd only get $500, but if he were to tip me $1000 to pay him consistent, quality attention for the entire 6-2 shift, I would keep closer to 100%. Obviously one of these choices is vastly preferable!

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    I dunno. I can't help but feel in this situation that it isn't about "what she usually makes", or "if she wasn't with him she wouldn't be making $1000" mentality.
    To me, the bottom line is that she is a professional dancer at work. If you were any other guy and wanted to spend an hour with this girl you would most likely take her to VIP and spend x$/hour.
    So you want to spend 8 hours with her instead of one. Why would the rules change?
    I am interested to see what part of the country you are in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4everresolutions View Post
    Customers quickly forget that I'd rather work my tail off for 4 hours, make $1000 on OTHER customers, and go home early than sit around for 8 hours with one dude who is under paying me.

    I think it would very much depend on the girl and the location of the club, but personally I'd feel like I was selling myself too cheap if I took less than my hourly rate. I seriously would rather go home early having to work slightly harder than double my time in the club with on PL. All. Night.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    Extraordinary requests (like coming to work several hours early, spending the entire night with just one customer without a break) require extraordinary amounts of money. $1000 (after tip-outs/house fees) is a good night for me, but the OP is asking a dancer to do much more work than she would normally have to do to earn that same money.

    Also, in many clubs, management will get very upset if you're just hanging out with one guy all night and he isn't buying champagne rooms.

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    Default Re: How much should I offer for the whole night?

    I would charge the regular hourly rate, at my most recent club that's 600, so 8 hours would be 4800.

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