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    I do wonder about the people who live in Caribbean areas, how do you deal with hurricanes or other kinds of natural disasters?
    ... in basically the same way that Americans on the gulf coast do ... hunker down and throw a 'hurricane party' if the predicted storm severity is 'average', be ready to GTFO if the predicted storm severity is 'major league', and repair the damage afterward. Obviously the GTFO scenario is a bit easier if you're located on the mainland as opposed to an island.


    Argentina is pretty bad for people exchanging dollars, there is a daily limit of U$231 for any financial transaction
    Not wanting to elaborate too much, but Argentina has some 'problems' these days which appear to be getting worse instead of better. So do a couple of other ( previously ) popular expat target countries. This is yet one more area worthy of a fair amount of research.
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    Camming from Asia, is this legal? I know porn is illegal in Thailand, Phillipines but what about camming? Bad Idea?

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    ^^^ That depends on how the country interprets its own laws, and how it chooses to enforce them where 'foreign' residents are concerned.

    Not wanting to elaborate too much in this thread ... but one such consideration where ex-pat US citizens are concerned is the particular foreign country's 'relationship' with the US gov't. Another such consideration is the particular foreign country's native peoples' view of westerners in general, and US citizens in particular. Yet another such consideration is the size and/or importance of western / US permanent presence ( both governmental and private individuals ) in that country.

    Again not wanting to elaborate too much, but generally speaking most Asian countries are happy to have US citizens as tourists ... who arrive, spend money, and leave without much true interaction with local people. Again, generally speaking, they are not so happy about having US citizens as long term residents ... and especially so if the long term US citizen resident isn't responsible for producing additional local jobs / additional money for the gov't.

    Another relevant consideration along totally different lines is that camming from an Asian country is going to show up in your IP. Certain adult webcam hosts have different policies these days in regard to 'Asian' camgirls versus 'western' camgirls.
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    I am Canadian. Could I just go and rent a monthly apartment in Iceland? What do you tell immigration when you enter the country?

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    ^^^ attempting to move directly from Canada to Iceland isn't a problem for the first 90 days. This period is covered under a standard 'visitor's' visa. However, beyond the 90 day point, to remain in Iceland legally you'd need to apply for, and be approved for, a 'permanent resident' visa.

    Unlike the US and to some extent Canada, Iceland - like many other European countries - is actually very restrictive in regard to preventing newly arriving non-citizens from gaining potential access to the country's social welfare benefit system ... i.e. becoming a 'burden' on existing citizen taxpayers. Thus some Icelandic permanent resident requirements are ...

    - being able to prove that you have a dependable source of income to support yourself. This typically takes the form of having a 'straight' job offer in Iceland, having sufficiently large investments to provide steady passive income, receiving 'guaranteed' payments from a foreign gov't ( retirement or disability ), insurance company ( annuity ) etc. I have no idea how the Icelandic officials would view adult webcam as being that source of income.

    - being able to prove that you have health insurance coverage via a source outside of Iceland that would pay toward health care provided by Icelandic hospitals, doctors etc. Canada's National Health Care is very bad in this regard.

    Nor do I know whether the Icelandic officials would interpret adult webcam work for an non-Icelandic webcam host to be 'working in Iceland' ... thus being illegal under a visitor's visa, requiring a work visa, with the resulting income being subject to Icelandic income taxes ... as opposed to being considered as 'foreign income' which is legal under a visitor's visa and not subject to Icelandic income tax. This is something which varies from country to country, and I don't have any specific information about Iceland in this regard.

    Since those permanent resident visa conditions are very hard for 'younger' persons to comply with, one way around this might be to engage in a two step process. The first step is to make use of 'commonwealth' treaty provisions between Canada and the UK to first become a permanent resident of the UK. Once a permanent UK resident, you can then apply for a Eurozone ( Schengen treaty ) based permanent resident Icelandic visa. A Eurozone based permanent resident does not have to meet the same strict income and health insurance requirements.

    Something that many ex-pats in my 'neck of the woods' often do is to simply leave the country via car or bus after their 90 day visitor's visa expires, spend one day in a neighboring country 'border town', and then return and apply / pay for a new 90 day visitor's visa the following day. However, as an island country located a long way from any other country, that's a fairly expensive proposition where Iceland is concerned. And not every country is willing to countinue granting new visitors visas indefinitely without asking questions.

    Also, along similar lines, different countries apply different degrees of scrutiny to people who enter the country under a 90 day visitor's visa and who don't leave the country after those 90 days. I would imagine that this is proportional to the ease or difficulty the country's gov't has in tracking cross-border travel. Unlike the US or Canada or my 'adopted' country where there are hundreds of cross-border roads available, or where it's possible to 'paddle' a small boat across the border by crossing a lake or river, where Iceland is concerned every person must enter or leave via an airport or seaport. Thus I would speculate that Icelandic visitor's visa enforcement is likely to be fairly strict.
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    Thanks for your reply....Soif it shows up in my ip can i get in trouble for working there? if porn is not legal..

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    This is something that I've always been interested, but I definitely don't want to settle down in another country just yet. The 90 day visa would be just fine for me. Is it illegal to work on it though?

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    The 90 day visa would be just fine for me. Is it illegal to work on it though?
    I don't know. But in any case, a 90 day period is probably too short for anybody to officially 'take notice' ... and especially so if webcam host payments are still being routed to your home country bank account.

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    Come to Mexico! We have high speed symmetric fiber Internet in Guadalajara (200Mbps up and down, biatch) and rent is dirt cheap compared to the US. Then again, please consider that salaries are generally shitty, so you'd have to cam or run an online business to have decent money.
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    I actually posted in another subform about moving to New Zealand.

    It became quickly evident that the United States, especially, makes it INCREDIBLY difficult for us to leave with their ever-changing rules on banking and taxes.

    Nevermind the fact that getting into another country can be difficult altogether. My husband and I talked at length about moving to New Zealand, even going to school for careers that New Zealand deems that they need, but ultimately we gave up even thinking about it. Anywhere but the US would be awesome, but with our pets and his inability of getting rid of belongings, we'll never expat.
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    Like, I'm happy having my sexy pr0n everywhere, but I don't really want a bunch of clips of me popping balloons in diapers all over the place XD

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    I'm interested in eventually moving to thailand to "retire" work a little and was disappointed to hear it is illegal in thailand? BUt there is a couple openly saying they are in thailand on chaturbate....

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    There was a MFC model who was raided and arrested for camming and producing porn in Thailand. I think she got off by just paying a big fine. I guess it's up to you if it's worth the risk or not.

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    Ugh! All these imaginary lines creating these stupid laws! Why Can't we have a world free of borders and margaritas?! I guess I'll just stick to moving to Puerto Rico since I'm a US citizen. It's just as expensive as mainland but at least I get the ocean and tropical weather year round!
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    It became quickly evident that the United States, especially, makes it INCREDIBLY difficult for us to leave with their ever-changing rules on banking and taxes.
    In point of fact, many of the anti-expat US rule changes are relatively recent developments. Arguably, they went hand in hand with recent IRS attempts to force foreign banks to report on the financial activities of US citizen account holders. Can't let too many actual taxpayers skip the country after all !!!

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    Thought I could add my perspective as an Aussie with wanderlust!

    Australia is great but not cheap by any means, the lifestyle is chilled and we have great weather. Immigration laws are tough as are the bans for flouting them so best to have your books in order if you do make it here. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me and I'll answer as best I can!

    Pros: Weather, Lifestyle, Cars and People (mostly!)

    Cons: Culture (On the West Coast anyway!), Expensive and Immigration


    I have also live in Thailand and know a fair bit about it. The weather is hot and humid year round, if you don't mind that no problem! The people are wonderful, my partner fights Muay Thai hence my having live here and we spend a lot of time in more "Thai" areas than farang (the word used by Thai's for foreigners) ones and Thai people are just so open and accepting despite quite often a severe language barrier! The internet is ok, not sure if it is the best for camming their speeds are quoted high but are actually referring to their domestic speed. Their international speeds are actually quite slow, especially on uploads (usually max 1mbs but 700kbs in reality). Food is really cheap if you like Thai food and obviously delicious, online shopping is almost impossible as their address system is almost non-existent so you pay high street prices for all imports and luxuries which when compared to the usual living costs always seems to be extortion!

    As for the legality of camming or conducting work in Thailand this is a typical Thai grey area. The model someone mentioned was MilaMilan and i only found out about her a few days ago whilst researching the legalities of camming in Thailand... Owning and selling sex toys is illegal, despite the street stalls that openly sell a variety of dildos, vibrators and ED drugs. Shooting pornography is illegal but so is prostitution which Thailand is so famous for! Thai laws are very traditional, as are many Thai people, they also have indecency laws which are completely up for interpretation. One person may get a 100baht fine while another may get 5 years in jail for the exact same offence... As expats in Thailand say TIT (This Is Thailand). MilaMilan had also overstayed her visa with an excuse about being pregnant, the reality is that overstaying is illegal in Thailand but is punishable by a maximum fine of 20,000 baht (about 600 dollars) once the fine is paid you leave the country and can simply come back in again on a new visa. I have heard of people overstaying 15 years, paying the fine and then coming back in again the next day on a new tourist visa. On Mila's blog she made it seem that she was wrongly accused and her lawyers sorted it, without slandering her, there is no need for lawyers just money in Thailand she got out because she paid her fine. The reality is the authorities look the other way most of the time for most things, but obviously it is alway better to be on the right side of the law!

    Wow, that ended up being a long post!

    Pros of Thailand: The People, the food (if you like Thai food), the culture, the cost and the immigration (there are ways to get there legally with work visas which are not crazy hard, however becoming a citizen almost impossible!)

    Cons of Thailand: International internet speeds, laws (despite the lack of enforcement), humidity (not my thing!) and the language/culture barrier.


    Anyway my quick reply turned into the Illiad! Any questions let me know and I'll see if I can help.

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    One person may get a 100baht fine while another may get 5 years in jail for the exact same offence.
    ^^^ I would add that the situation you describe isn't unique to Thailand either. In many so-called 'third world' foreign countries the 'letter' of the law is ... how do I put this ... up for 'negotiation' ? Thus the ex-pat experience in such countries is somewhat dependent on ...

    - your 'connection' to the country / local area. Having a bf who is a 'local' carries a lot of weight with local residents and local officials.

    - your financial leverage where possible 'negotiations' are concerned. Being able to tactfully hand several crisp US $100 bills to a local cop along with your ID carries a lot of weight as well.

    - your political leverage where possible 'negotiations' are concerned. Do you 'employ' some local residents ( for housekeeping, gardening etc. ) ? Are you connected to a local ex-pat community which provides lots of local jobs and lots of profits for local merchants and businesses ?

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    I am currently looking into Panama. For what I've seen it seems to be a place where the laws are adult friendly and foreigners from nearly 50 countries can get a friendly nations relatively easy. Does anyone here have experience with moving their cam business to Panama? Are the internet connections there good enough to cam?

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