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    Ok so I am an attractive young lady who has contemplated doing porn for a while now. I have done a lot of research and noticed a lot of pornstars also escort or only make a handfull of films before they quit and become escorts. I would like to do this but wonder about how many films would I need to make before I can become one of those premiere pornstar escorts and could I get I away with escorting as a softcore, girl/girl pornstar? If anyone has an experience doing this please any answer or piece of advice would be appreciated. Thanks ladies and look forward to your replies.

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    I have not done this personally, but I've known a handful of girls who did both: they started escorting, moved to LA, kept escorting, made a few movies (3-4 at whatever their comfort level is/was) then jacked up their rates while linking to their movies in their ads. From what I understand, porn actually doesn't pay as well as it used to and a lot of girls are using it to market their escorting services.

    I'm on the very edge of that world, so definitely do your own research, but overall I think you should be fine.
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    One of the guys who did a review for me reviewed a PSE provider in Northern Florida. He said she was awesome and was eager to make sure she got a decent review from him. So I think it's a good thing if a girl is willing to take the exposure of being in adult vid.

    I don't think it matters too much to a lot of hobbyists (having a PSE adult movie rep)- I seemed to detect a preference for GFE girls...I was working in a more conservative part of the States so that might be why. But it helps with ads.

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    Thanks ladies. Yeah that is basically what I am trying to do is just make a few movies (soft core, girl/girl at best) so I can jack up my rate to some insane amount. It seems to work with a lot of the girls so I might give it a try. Would you guys have any idea on how I can hide my real name though? I know porn actresses have stage names but if you wiki them or google them their real name pops up. I was wondering if there is any way I can prevent this. Someone mentioned to me getting a registered alias and getting an id for that?

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    I hate to say it but all it takes is some loser with time on his hands to match your adult video image to a known photo of you with your real name attached to it.

    Some psycho tried "outing" a girl I used to dance with after she made adult vids in the mid-2000s but he didn't realize she didn't care....he posted a crazy blog about her vids with an obsessive review. I personally think his obsession was more troubling than him calling attention to her work.

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    Default Re: Pornstars Who Escort?

    I will add: what type of experience are you comfortable with offering? Sure, if you do porn movies you can up your prices, but even if all you do is softcore, girl/girl porn, the guys who are willing to pay higher rates for a legitimate pornstar are probably going to be looking for a more hardcore PSE. If you're into more of the GFE type of thing, you probably won't be comfortable with getting those types of clients all the time.

    That's exactly what I think about any time I even briefly consider doing the porn --> higher escort rates thing. I am all about offering GFE and I think the only reason I've lasted in escorting this long is because I enjoy my time in those situations. I avoid guys who seem like they want PSE like the plague because it's not my thing and makes me uncomfortable. If that's all I dealt with, I'd fucking hate this job.

    You might be totally cool with it, but since you mentioned only doing a few softcore things in order to claim "pornstar status" it seemed like maybe you weren't really gung-ho about the whole pornstar experience thing. Just something to keep in mind when marketing yourself vs. what kinds of clients you'd actually like to interact with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlDelux View Post
    Ok so I am an attractive young lady who has contemplated doing porn for a while now. I have done a lot of research and noticed a lot of pornstars also escort or only make a handfull of films before they quit and become escorts. I would like to do this but wonder about how many films would I need to make before I can become one of those premiere pornstar escorts and could I get I away with escorting as a softcore, girl/girl pornstar? If anyone has an experience doing this please any answer or piece of advice would be appreciated. Thanks ladies and look forward to your replies.
    You don't have to be a porn star but it surely opens a whole new level of clients for you if you are skilled, attractive to a high price crowd, and are entertaining. Not sure I would ever do porn, but I think if you have a huge name in the porn industry you make a ton more than the average escort based on (you get what you pay for from fans and other people). Porn stars make shit rates now...and use porn as ads for high price prostitution rates. I have seen ladies living very comfy from membership sites (retiring in their 20's) and followers if they played their cards at an early age with the right people.. You might consider it, but there are many risks and the industry isn't as safe as they portray it to be. Plus your video is out there for your kids to see. Hence, why I remain an escort making shitty weekly rates. I heard Kacey Jordan recently purchased 60k in veneers even thought she had a cute smile and somehow managed to avoid taxes through bankruptcy....LOL. Life is great for those who know how to play the game, it seems. Not for most!

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    Snuffle that is something I am afraid of as I have a vanilla job and I come from a rather conservative family who still doesn’t know I even know I am involved in adult industry! Someone had told me that I could get a registered alias from my local sheriff’s office that way if anyone was to look me up my “supposed real name” would show up instead of my actual real name. I also plan on changing my appearance some if I decide to do this.

    Aurora I guess I am still questioning that now as I am on the fence about even getting into porn. What I would really like to do is just do some magazine stuff, pictures, or cyber girl stuff I guess but I don’t know if that would get me very far unless I was playmate or penthouse pet of the year. Seems like you almost have to do video work. Whatever the case is it wouldn’t be until the summer or so before I made my decision. It’s a lot to take in and think about but I am almost near ready to say fuck it and just do the damn thing.

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    I guess what it is to is that I feel like I am not being paid what I am worth. I am sure we all feel that way but I have felt this way too long and when I see some of these porn actresses making oodles of money I just shake my head and think damn, I need to do that.

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    Move to LA, get an agent. If you have the look they want then they will get you scenes, get you hooked on the money. Then tell you there are no more companies that will hire you unless you do boy/girl and anal. Once you do those he will tell you no more scenes, but he has "friends" who will "film you with NO camera Man & NO condoms for more money". Presto, now you are a hooker.

    Agents in this biz already have it all set up for you. Now, don't expect to actually make any money. Cause you need to pay them for your test, model house rent, driving you to scenes & to "private scenes". They will nickel & dime you so that you owe them money.


    Or you can cam, do your own filming & put them up on c4s and then build a site with modelcentro. Don't worry, the entire time men will be begging you in free chat if you escort, on social media & everywhere you are on the web.

    FYI: Those girls dont do a few movies & stop just so they can escort. Currently there are very few companies to shoot for in porn. Most still only shoot girls once or twice, very few get brought back again and again. Don't assume they all had a choice in becoming a hooker. Especially in LA, they want the girls to all hook so they can pimp them out. They all tell girls how there is no money in cams, c4s, or having your own site.


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    Are you a 10? ONLY a 10 can charge a high amount that a top porn star who is a 10 in looks.

    ONLY the TOP porn stars charge a premium price. That comes from having tons of fans & years of videos to build that upon. But I don't know what you consider a premium price.

    Go to eros guide, you can see what most of them charge on there. There aren't many porn stars who have just done solo and g/g, much less under 10 or 20 of them. No, the porn stars on Eros have 30 to 300 boy/girl scenes under their belt. Even then their prices can range from $300 to $1500 an hour, you will find most of them at $500 per hour.

    What you will get is tons of emails, text & calls of men asking for half hour rates and telling you "that you are NOT a star & can't charge that price." You will be expected to do anal, bareback blowjobs until the cum in your mouth & bareback sex. After all you are a porn star & they do that on film.

    Let's be real. Although many girls who cam, who have done a few scenes are called porn stars by the public, AREN'T... No, a porn star is a girl who has done 100 scenes or more, others are just merely girls who have done porn. It takes star power, SALES to get companies to keep hiring a girl over & over again enough to do over 100 paid scenes.

    There are literally 10,000 to 100,000 of girls over the past 10 years who have done under 20 paid scenes in porn. Less than 10 of them can charge a premium price. They are NOT stars, unless they did it all on their own & got a huge following, but I can't name names here. Those are even fewer.

    You can charge $1000 an hour, but if no one books you & pays it, then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlDelux View Post
    Snuffle that is something I am afraid of as I have a vanilla job and I come from a rather conservative family who still doesn’t know I even know I am involved in adult industry! Someone had told me that I could get a registered alias from my local sheriff’s office that way if anyone was to look me up my “supposed real name” would show up instead of my actual real name. I also plan on changing my appearance some if I decide to do this.

    Aurora I guess I am still questioning that now as I am on the fence about even getting into porn. What I would really like to do is just do some magazine stuff, pictures, or cyber girl stuff I guess but I don’t know if that would get me very far unless I was playmate or penthouse pet of the year. Seems like you almost have to do video work. Whatever the case is it wouldn’t be until the summer or so before I made my decision. It’s a lot to take in and think about but I am almost near ready to say fuck it and just do the damn thing.
    It is all on the web, whether you cam, hook or do solo or g/g work. Your conservative family will find out. There are NO secrets on the web. There is NO hiding an adult career from the family or the world. You also can't make big money in the sex industry & think your family won't find out.

    You seem to be under the delusion it is easy to make big money in the sex industry. It isn't. I don't care how pretty you are, how in shape, how big your boobs are. Performers, hookers, escorts, cam girls that make big money are some of the smartest, hardest working people I have ever met in my life. None of it was easy money. NO SUCH thing.

    Now, since in the real world females are paid way less than men, you have a better chance of making money & lots of it with looks, a plan, hard work & social media marketing. But what it takes also means your family will find out.

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    Sam38g's comments match my client experience.

    Tried to send PM with more detail, but think I'm not authorized.

    I've personally seen three porn stars (each had movies I found, but were not what Sam indicated as Top) prices ranging from $400-$500 hr. Right now 411 has a few providers that advertise as porn stars when I searched (checking that they have videos): I saw a $1,110/hr rate (very famous), $600/hr rate (lot of movies/but I didn't know them); and several providers at $400/hr (they had a few movies each); I'd consider each a 9-10.

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    Everything Sam just said is probably 110% true. Or at least in my experience (and this is going back a few years). I can't speak for anyone else but I can try to answer your questions and concerns using what I have seen. If you are worried about being found out or outed, please know that you can take all the precautions in the world but there is a likelihood you will be found out. I have never heard of this alias/ assumed real name thing but I would imagine it is a legal option for you as you can legally change your name. I just don't know if you can use both identities or you have to legally and permanently... I would look into it. This can protect you from obsessive weirdos and those losers who have nothing better to do than find out porn girl's real names and slut shame them. It can't save you from people that know you and recognize you.

    If you go to LA and actually want to work you can only play the g/g card so far... before you are pressured into doing b/g. Of course; never ever let anyone tell you that you "have" to do anything to make money or get bookings. I don't know that I quite follow your logic of wanting to do g/g and not b/g though. I'm sorry if its just a personal preference thing I do not mean to offend you but what I a saying is that I would imagine potential clients would prefer to see you in b/g scenes and if you're worried about being outed no one is going to look at you any better if it is solo, g/g, b/g, b/g/b or anything else for that matter. Porn is porn and critics will judge you no matter what type. However if you only want to do g/g and solo scenes because of your comfort level by all means do so!

    I would say if your goal is to escort and command higher rates than either look for an agency that charges higher rates or if you work independently make sure you are posting your ads in the right place. If you really want to go the porn route you will need to do at least a small handful of films with the right companies and maybe try to get into a magazine or two.

    Make sure if you use an agent you find a respectable one and not a 'suitcase pimp" as I like to call them. You can actually try to book your own work but it is a bit harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    Everything Sam just said is probably 110% true. Or at least in my experience (and this is going back a few years). I can't speak for anyone else but I can try to answer your questions and concerns using what I have seen. If you are worried about being found out or outed, please know that you can take all the precautions in the world but there is a likelihood you will be found out. I have never heard of this alias/ assumed real name thing but I would imagine it is a legal option for you as you can legally change your name. I just don't know if you can use both identities or you have to legally and permanently... I would look into it. This can protect you from obsessive weirdos and those losers who have nothing better to do than find out porn girl's real names and slut shame them. It can't save you from people that know you and recognize you.

    If you go to LA and actually want to work you can only play the g/g card so far... before you are pressured into doing b/g. Of course; never ever let anyone tell you that you "have" to do anything to make money or get bookings. I don't know that I quite follow your logic of wanting to do g/g and not b/g though. I'm sorry if its just a personal preference thing I do not mean to offend you but what I a saying is that I would imagine potential clients would prefer to see you in b/g scenes and if you're worried about being outed no one is going to look at you any better if it is solo, g/g, b/g, b/g/b or anything else for that matter. Porn is porn and critics will judge you no matter what type. However if you only want to do g/g and solo scenes because of your comfort level by all means do so!

    I would say if your goal is to escort and command higher rates than either look for an agency that charges higher rates or if you work independently make sure you are posting your ads in the right place. If you really want to go the porn route you will need to do at least a small handful of films with the right companies and maybe try to get into a magazine or two.

    Make sure if you use an agent you find a respectable one and not a 'suitcase pimp" as I like to call them. You can actually try to book your own work but it is a bit harder.

    Good Luck to you!
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    Once you sign with an agent, it is for 2 to 3 years. They will immediately trade mark your porn name, buy a website in that name, sign up to every cam site. You will never own your name, own that website & on cam they will always & forever get a high percentage of your cut from the cam site. Welcome to porn. If you do in that time decide to have your own site, or c4s or what ever money making job in the sex industry you have to ask them for permission to film for your own stuff & they still expect 20 percent of the money you make from them.


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    There's actually quite a few female agents I have met, and agencies. I don't like any of the independent one man show types although my old agent rep. some pretty big name girls and also got me a contract with a very large studio (which I declined right before my mental breakdown!)
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    Some of the biggest agencies in porn are ran by that type of man I described NOT just the independent ones are like that, they are just better at keeping the general public from knowing about it. Cause if a performer does anything but carry how great this all is & how we are all rich gets shunned & never hired again by anyone in the industry.

    The females agents I find to be in general no better than the men, they just pretend to be. They will be the first to set up a girl with a "friend" with a piece of paper supposedly from a doctor saying he is clean to do a NON-condom appointment.

    She might get a few solos and boy/girl scenes, some shot by content providers. Then any man on the web who knows the ropes can go to a site that buy that scene & get her real name, IDs, address the works cause all content includes 2257 & release forms. It will cost him about $20 to $300 for it.

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    There's only two ways to make big money escorting on a CONSISTENT basis in a SHORT time span.

    1. be connected socially with rich and powerful people
    2. advertise like crazy and be very very visible

    Until and unless you network you won't see the big bucks (thousands a week, splashy 6 figure lifestyle). Traditional networking includes things like going to places where there are rich people, making friends with high end hotel concierges, etc. or even befriending a high end madam or something. You have to have some "in" where you are consistently around people with money.

    The other way is to advertise a lot, be involved in the hobby boards, take lots and lot of high quality pictures and do everything in your power to be visible. Some girls do the porn to provider route but that is not necessary. If you just have high quality pictures and post a lot you'll get the New Girl buzz anyway...and you won't have videos of you doing the nasty on the internet for the world to see.

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    It does not seem to matter what you do or how careful you are.. people will discover. I had a few porn videos out and was outed. They have now found my escort profile (under a completely different name, different pics, etc. My face is blurred in all pics but still they have found me. Just as with porn, when your ads, reviews, etc are out there.. can't take them back. I try to control where my ads are but just a with videos, profiles/pics are stolen and I am amazed at where my ads/pics show up.

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    As many of the posters have said : There is no such thing as putting the genie back in the bottle. Once you've done porn ; or shot a layout ; or posted an Eros Ad it is out there to stay.

    To make the big bucks you have to have exposure. Via porn or advertising. Which brings us back to the whole "reviews" issue.

    There are some connections that will get you entre into the big money but they are few and far between. You as well might as well buy a lottery ticket.

    Best of luck.

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    I think most porn stars have tried it, done it, or are still willing to escort
    I've personally have met just a handful of porn stars privately myself and it depends on the agency and who the women is, on what her rate may be. I'm sure it's really hard to know and say but I'd guess median number would be around a little over $1000. If you were to look only at agency rates only, I pretty sure the median price would be higher. I would also agree that if a porn star was advertising openly, touring, independent and not as well known then the price. and also median prices, could definitely be below 1k mark.

    Kayden Kross who is college educated, partners with an male porn actor and among other things President of ArrangementFinders.com, wrote a blog post, almost a couple of years ago old now but, I think the advice on there is still great for anyone considering getting into porn.

    Come to think of it I have reason to believe that Kayden may have done some escorting herself before.

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