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    thanks so much for the input Mz Bunny. what you're saying has a lot in common with something MH suggested to me awhile back, which is that 'client origin' for lack of a better term should be factored in when arriving at a rates menu

    I took the plunge and raised my rates last night before I went to bed. I'm still doing a sliding scale (as I still want to be attainable to my best guys) but I bumped up all the price points. I raised em even higher on the 'side sites' I use that offer lower payouts. This morning I did my first show and when I first looked at the booking I forgot that I'd raised my rates (I'm a moron before 10am). Then I realized and it was just, dayum

    So including sleep time I've been at my new rates for 10 hours and from two shows (both with guys whom I adore) I'm already up $170 extra over what I would have earned yesterday, all for doing the same amount of work.

    this is fucking awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical_Hoohah View Post
    I've also been wondering about the virtues of different rate structures. I feel like you can handle your rates a few ways (the examples are just made up):
    ~ blocks on a sliding scale (10 min -$40, 15min - $55, etc.),
    ~ a single per minute rate ($4/min), or
    ~ some hybrid sliding scale per minute rate (10 min+ = $4/min, 30min+ = $3.50/min, etc.).


    Some questions/thoughts that have crossed my mind about how one can list one's rates:

    1) I feel like the sliding scale blocks are most likely to cause sticker shock because "60min - $170" looks a lot worse than "$4/minute," even though it's much cheaper. Of course, once the guy whips out his calculator, he might easily get sticker shock from the $4/min, but it's going to take a few extra seconds to realize it. Is it likely that "60 min - $170" looks scary enough that more guys run away before they can even stop to do the math?

    2) Can guys be trusted to do the math properly with a per minute rate? The AW thread is full of cautions about guys that will do the math wrong for Skype shows, whether by accident or on purpose, and then you have to badger them to correct it.

    3) With a per minute rate, what happens if the amount comes out to something weird, like 13 minutes x $3.99 = $51.87 (I don't know why a dude would request a 13 minute show, but it could happen)? How do they physically pay on LCMS? We can't possibly have our drop down boxes set to contain every possible combination, right? Even now, there are girls with rates like $2.50/minute, but no drop down option for $37.50 (15 minutes). How do you ladies manage that? Are you rounding up? Down? Do you just base your possible show lengths on round $$ amounts?

    These are all questions directed to the group, btw. I don't think LH has much experience with per minute rates, so I'm hoping that some of you with different rate structures will chime in, please? :
    This is exactly what had tripped me up in figuring out what to charge.

    I love the psychological effect of the .99 ending but didn't want to make a guy with a boner do math

    When I found out that rates can be set to per minute on LCMS I figure that is the perfect solution. They just choose "10 mins, 20 mins" or whatever block they want to buy and then it charges them the per minute rate, no need for them to do math.


    I decided to try a rate of 4.99 and even though that's a bit high for indy, guys have no problem paying me 9.99 for exclusive on SM (about half my income there is exclusive) so I figure they are getting a 50% discount on what amounts to an exclusive one on one session this way.

    I'm so excited to see how it goes! Eventually I want to do very little free chat and do mainly indy and clips.


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    Well, I gave myself a raise on CMD today! Getting together some stuff to raise my rate on LCMS, but I'll still be using a sliding scale because the guys that get longer sessions are my sweet lovely regs and I want a bit more from them but not ready to jack them up I think it will make a difference for me as I start promoting harder and really working for my indy money.

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    I know I wrote some stuff earlier about increasing the rates on my sliding scale, but the more I think about it, the more I am liking the hybrid, sliding, per-minute rate idea. I'm toying with the idea of 10+ minutes - $4/min, 30+ minutes - $3.50/min, 60+ minutes - $3/min. Depending on the length of the session, that represents an increase of $0.50-$1 per minute, which is a pretty large increase for indy rates. It makes me a bit nervous, but that's why this is called a challenge, no?
    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel
    "dont worry, its slow for other models today"
    I'm not other models, its not slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical_Hoohah View Post
    It makes me a bit nervous, but that's why this is called a challenge, no?
    woot woot, do it!! If it helps in the confidence department at all tonight I cammed with a client we share in common and he paid my new rates without even mentioning them. so far none of my regs have mentioned them, and I'm still picking up new clients. I raised my rates early Thursday morning and it's now early Sunday, and I've earned $480 more than I would have pre-challenge, just due to the difference in pre- and post-raise rates. Crazy, I'm musing about raising them again for the start of the challenge Either way, I'm def going to keep adjusting for cost-of-living increases.

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    I'd like to bump this thread to infinity and beyond!

    I also wanted to mention something really amazing that Ivybunny brought up to me. The gist of it was that, if you're going to use some kind of sliding scale, you can use your price reduction points to encourage guys to buy certain show lengths. I was going to start my discount rates at 30 minutes and 60 minutes, but those were just arbitrary numbers that were round and nice. Ivybunny suggested that I may want to think about it more strategically, and she's absolutely right.

    I'm really excited about this, and I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with everyone that participates. Has anyone besides LH decided to start early?
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    What is LCMS?

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    ^^It's loveshook's indy site www.LiveCamModelShows.com. The thread is here: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ndent-Camgirls. It's very highly recommended!
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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingmodel
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    Last night was my first night with my new rates and snazzy updated profile. Sadly, I didn't make anything on LCMS, but that's because I was busy as fuck and had to tell people to come back tomorrow. No one commented on my rates at all, and I had a very good night! I made $85 more than I would have at my previous rates, and was only online for about 4.5 hours. Hopefully it wasn't just a weird coincidence.

    Looking forward to hearing about others' results (I know I'm not the only one that jumped the gun and started the challenge early...)!
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    I haven't gotten any shows at all since raising my prices. And still, no fucks are given. I hate Skype shows because they are dirt cheap, so I refuse to do them anymore for anything less than $4 a minute. No longer should it be the cheaper option for the broke losers.

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    I have to charge more as the dollar is worth so much less over here. i don't get many bites, but the ones i do are usually 20 min+ shows so it's all good I'm at $4.49 though the more time they buy the cheaper it gets down to $3.49 per min for 60 min shows. I could go lower but tbh i still make more on my big box site, and with daily pay i get it the very next day so it makes sense to focus my energies there and keep my prices higher for indie so that it's worth my while to come away from the camsite to do shows x
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    thank you MH for the rec

    Just wanted to post a couple of updates, the first being the most pertinent to those who may be considering the challenge.

    As MH mentioned above, in the past couple of weeks since we've started talking about this challenge about 20 chicas have already updated with new rates. Quite a few chicas are within their normal range of earnings but several have had their earnings shoot up dramatically. While two weeks is a very short period of time within which to assess meaningful statistical changes, the fact remains that 8 chicas have had a huge spike in earnings, and each has been listed on the site for months. I have more to say about this below but back on point: the bookings amongst early participants reflect that regulars still return and that for most new guys come. It's still early on but thus far, the numbers say it's working.

    a couple of the trends I've noticed also correspond to my own personal experience of raising my rates, in that a) regulars pay the new rate b) the best regs book longer shows (raising rates is a sign of success and our best guys want us to succeed and/or are attracted to our success) and c) that new guys keep booking.

    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    I have to charge more as the dollar is worth so much less over here
    I wanted to quote this because exchange rate is a huge issue, and yet another factor to consider when arriving at a rates strategy

    the other update I wanted to post about my decision about re-raising my rates for April 1. This comes back around to my post about power relations in MH's thread about indy rates that inspired me in the first place. While the raise I gave myself a couple of weeks ago has been a huge success, recently I've acquired a couple of very lucrative new regular clients. while I was only half joking about raising my rates again for the start of the challenge (esp. after seeing and knowing how lucrative it's been thus far) I've decided against it. My reason is that I'm concerned that if I raise them now each new client may assume that I'm doing so due to their generosity. While they're awesome and the $$$$$ is wicked they aren't any different in that regard from any of my other guys, and I don't want to give them even the appearance that I'm dependent upon them. I read power relations into everything, probably too much. Still, it's served me well thus far so...

    About the earnings spikes though, I think I know another reason why this has occurred. Sure chicas earn more per show and regs return more frequently, but beyond that most of the chicas who raised their rates have upped their off cam promo work, as with the raises they gave themselves they were factoring in off cam work. That's the point: if we don't factor in that work we're in the indy version of free chat, working for no compensation.

    I've been thinking a lot recently about what I want LCMS to be as it grows so quickly, and it really boils down to a desire for LCMS to be whatever any individual listee wants or needs it to be. That includes processing at a cost lower than most chicas could get on their own. The downside to that is that on LCMS (or any listing site) you can't really bank without doing off cam work. No listing site can afford the type of traffic sm attracts, nor the affiliate payments sm offers.

    LCMS has traffic and I don't want to give the appearance that it's a 'bring your clients to only' site; it's not. Month by month traffic grows and the payouts are rising even more quickly. I do a lot of promo and advertising to drive traffic to the site, but at the same time at the payout rate I offer I can't provide $xxxx per week clients to 150 chicas. That's the nature of indy, even years ago when this niche was much smaller I attribute my success to my off cam work. I'm seriously kicking myself for not charging for that for so many years, thank you again MH for giving me the eye-opener I needed.

    I think Boots stated it best in another thread: we work for ourselves. yes we should expect traffic from the sites we list on, but to really bank we need to extend farther than that. the challenge is designed to provoke thought about how to factor that work into our rates, in that we're each more likely to do the work if we feel we're compensated fairly for it.

    For chicas who don't know where to start, the info group on LCMS is a good jumping off point, advertising and promo is a big focus.

    I've been getting so many wicked emails from chicas about their thought processes regarding how they arrived at their new rates, I hope those who are sw'ers feel comfortable sharing them here. I'd prefer to keep as much of the discussion as possible public because I think all chicas could benefit from it, but we can also do a private group thread if peeps prefer.

    happy weekend
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    I am quivering with my rates I spent the entire day online today logged in ready for shows. i posted to twitter, and on my site, updated my skype status, and made sure i was logged in to indie listing sites. Had no bites at all (except one guy asking for paypal!) during the daytime (gmt), then 2 shows very late night. During this time I had no problems getting shows on my camsites where my rates are the same (almost). I'm not supermodel or front page mfc looks by any standard, and i don't show my face for the most part in any promotional pics, and i think this is really bringing down my chances to charge the prices i want for indie. on the other hand I do a lot more than a lot of models i.e. hd cam, pro lighting, really good roleplaying and fetish experience. I'm a bit upset about it actually. But it's only been one day so I will give it till next saturday before deciding wether to lower them down to 3.99.
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    Alright, I'm in. My rates are already a bit high for indy, so I had to think about this for a week. The conclusion that I arrived at is that I can't afford to do cam shows at my current rate anymore. At least not right now. I'm so busy with filming, posting content, promo, and coding that I cringe when I have to take time to do a cam show. I really don't like doing Skype shows & I think giving myself a raise will help my attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    Alright, I'm in. My rates are already a bit high for indy, so I had to think about this for a week. The conclusion that I arrived at is that I can't afford to do cam shows at my current rate anymore. At least not right now. I'm so busy with filming, posting content, promo, and coding that I cringe when I have to take time to do a cam show. I really don't like doing Skype shows & I think giving myself a raise will help my attitude.
    welcome aboard I love the reasoning behind your new rates menu, the 'how much would I earn doing something else' factor. def an issue for anyone who juggles multiple sources of income. regarding attitude, since I gave myself my new raise more than a few guys have commented that I seem like I'm in an extra good mood lately. Hell yes I am, like you I do more than one job and I love feeling like I have more time, as my cam earnings stack up more quickly giving me more hours to focus on other forms of work (or just take 15 mins to just stare at the sky and do nothing). The more I earn from each session, the more I enjoy each session and I'm actually pretty surprised that my guys are picking up on that. Based on that feedback they seem to happy with the raise, even though still not one person has commented on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    I am quivering with my rates I spent the entire day online today logged in ready for shows. i posted to twitter, and on my site, updated my skype status, and made sure i was logged in to indie listing sites. Had no bites at all (except one guy asking for paypal!) during the daytime (gmt), then 2 shows very late night. During this time I had no problems getting shows on my camsites where my rates are the same (almost). I'm not supermodel or front page mfc looks by any standard, and i don't show my face for the most part in any promotional pics, and i think this is really bringing down my chances to charge the prices i want for indie. on the other hand I do a lot more than a lot of models i.e. hd cam, pro lighting, really good roleplaying and fetish experience. I'm a bit upset about it actually. But it's only been one day so I will give it till next saturday before deciding wether to lower them down to 3.99.
    you're gorgeous, full stop. More generally though, bbout any looks/earnings relation, based on LCMS I don't see a correlation between earnings/rates and hegemonic standards of beauty, different guys really do find different looks ideal. Either way, having a slow day is not a reflection of what you have to offer

    about the challenge, I'm really glad you're willing to try it out for more than a couple of days. 2 days is def not long enough to assess the effect of the change, particularly when you're just starting to implement new promotional avenues. Do the one I suggested* and then gauge the reaction, I bet you'll be happy with the result

    *I just wanted to mention again, for any LCMS listee who wants to amp up the promo but doesn't know where to start, hit me up and I'll make you an info group account.

    with the start of the challenge I'm starting a few new LCMS promo/ad campaigns, some paid and some sweat equity. All focused on high quality traffic (I do not want 'bzz open cam dudes' on LCMS). The traffic volumes will still be far below sm standards because that ish is expensive but it will mean brand new clients, many of whom are unfamiliar with indy (meaning the cam fans among them are already accustomed to network cam site rates). I want this challenge to succeed and I think it's important that myself/LCMS do our part, doubly so since the number of site listees is growing so rapidly. I hope in my push to encourage y'all to self-promote that I don't come across as shirking my duty to do the same as owner of the site.

    One day to go and then it's on! for efficiency I'll start the 85% base for challenge participants as of Sunday Mar 29 (the start of the new payment week). For prize purposes the challenge will run April 1-7 and April 8-15.

    let's change this niche and prove that we are NOT a discount option. we work our asses off and have so much to offer our guys, we deserve to reap the rewards of that

    #IndependentCamgirlsForTheWin

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    I'm definitely in for all promo avenues!! Let's do this
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    I'll be honest: I haven't raised my rates. Yet.

    I figure my indy base rate based on my per minute rate on my other major sites. On SM, I charge $6.99/minute. Since I work for Boleyn Models studio, I keep about $2.10 per minute of that. I won't work for less than that my cut on short shows (plus or minus a few cents). My CMD rate is set at $3/minute for the first 10 minutes, then I discount as low as $2.50 depending on the length of the show ($2.50/minute is usually around the 20+ minute mark). I do an hour for a flat $125. Once I go below the $3/minute mark though, I AM working for less than $2.10 per minute.

    That said, my goal is to raise my rates so that I stop going below my SM rate ever again and see how that does me. That means setting my rates to $3.50/minute for my shorter shows, longer blocks for no less than $3/minute, and my hour long discounts to $150. I'm honestly fucking terrified to try this. On SM, I bump myself up all the damned time because I'm of the 'bitch please--they'll pay it' mentality. The thought of doing this on indy sites and continuing to get shows is mind boggling. And until I try, I imagine it'll continue to be horrifying.

    But I just got out of a show with a customer 10 minutes ago and at the end he goes "I'll be honest--that was the best show I've had in months. Enough of these cheap, eastern European girls. I'd rather pay extra for a quality show." While I'm far from thrilled by his jab about 'cheap' and 'eastern European' being the same sentence, his point resonated with me. Customers will pay for a quality girl. I'm not as worried about new acquisitions because they'll either take my rates or leave them. My old customers will probably cringe though, but we'll see how it goes.

    Gonna aim to raise my rates in a few days. Fingers crossed!


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    Don't be scared. Do you have a lot of indie regs? You could cushion the blow by offering discounts for a while to them but I'd go the whole hog and do $4 as that seems to be what a lot are charging now x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    I'm honestly fucking terrified to try this. On SM, I bump myself up all the damned time because I'm of the 'bitch please--they'll pay it' mentality. The thought of doing this on indy sites and continuing to get shows is mind boggling. And until I try, I imagine it'll continue to be horrifying.
    if it makes you feel any more confident, realize that in your mind you're imposing a 'spending comfort zone' on your guys, without even knowing what they feel comfortable paying. Why make the assumption that your rates are their limit when you don't know the entirety of their spending patterns? That's why having a bird's eye view of bookings behind the scenes of LCMS has been so instructive for me, watching the same guys book different chicas all at different price points for months has proved to me that price is not the main factor for most guys when selecting a chica to cam with, hell many of my own regs book chicas who charge more than me when I'm not around (which is often these days).

    I think it's normal to be scared and if you really don't feel comfortable doing it then it might not be the right time for you, but don't let a factor you've mentally imposed on your clients be the determining factor. On sm you own it and the guys pay your rates because they love what you do, why would skype necessarily be any different? Not trying to pressure you in the slightest, just rather raising some issues to think about as you assess the potential pros and cons of trying out a raise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Issabelle View Post
    While I'm far from thrilled by his jab about 'cheap' and 'eastern European' being the same sentence
    ^^^this is another issue rates-wise that pisses me off. I noticed a trend of LCMS of EE chicas requesting public nation displays that were UK/US, enough so that I finally just asked one chica how big a difference it made to her. wow at the response, she generously explained in detail how differently guys treated her when they perceived her as an 'EE' chica rather then someone situated more towards the west; demanding discounts, hassling for paypal constantly, arguing about her rates being 'too high'. I know we all get that now and then but she described a constant stream of fuckery that would be enough for anyone to scream at their comp and want to kick something.

    Now any time an EE-based chica joins I make a point of asking her if she's like a nation displayed, and if so what one. That one difference results in huge earnings boosts but it's bullshit that they have to conceal their real region in order to achieve those results. It also creates a situation where unfair client biases are being challenged without them even realizing it (in that they experience satisfying shows with EE models without knowing it), allowing the stereotype to perpetuate.

    I'm infuriated by the 'EE as cheap' discourse, and I find it disheartening that so many chicas buy into the same stereotypes (@Issa you made it clear you're not one of them and this isn't directed at you, rather I'm just using your quote as a jumping off point for another issue encountered by some vis a vis rates). It's bad enough when clients reveal those sorts of unwarranted biases, as an industry I wish we'd challenge those stereotypes more stridently.

    back on point, wishing you good luck when you make the plunge

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    Oh YES Love. The customer also asked before we even started booking if I was an EE girl, then asked if English was my first language, and said I 'looked a bit eastern European.' He followed it up with 'I don't mean to offend you' and I played it off politely, but that stereotype is endlessly frustrating. I'm very western European and definitely a US girl, but my photos 'look' EE and a few guys per week have to confirm with me that I'm not. It seems like a few negative experiences with non-western models has made them completely biased against EE girls and that's very saddening to me.

    I see it on SM too because I make my highest hourly in the wee hours of the morning. SM is predominantly non-US models at that time (mix of eastern and western European) and the average per minute rate is fairly low compared to mine (because, seriously, I recognize that people see $6.99 per minute as super high normally), and yet I'm still ranked in the first few rows of page one and banking like crazy. Meanwhile, EE girls can't get to goal on a $60 gold show and are constantly being harassed/bitched at by rude customers who either think the show will be crap because of the low buy in or, conversely, if the buy in and goal are high the guys complain and ask how they dare charge so much being EE girls. It's like 'okay, I get that you had one bad experience, but stop devaluing the model based on one poor show you had years ago because that could have been anyone from anywhere.' The stereotype is so pervasive that guys assume girls lie about their region (and many very obviously do on SM), so they now think they have to ask.

    Sorry--it's a long rant of mine, but it is very related to indy. Everyone deserves to charge a good rate and be happy with what they earn. Everyone I've seen puts on a damned good show. Just because one or two shows didn't totally jive with you as a customer doesn't mean you need to X an entire region off your potential-models list.


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    Alright, I'm in. My rates are already a bit high for indy, so I had to think about this for a week. The conclusion that I arrived at is that I can't afford to do cam shows at my current rate anymore. At least not right now. I'm so busy with filming, posting content, promo, and coding that I cringe when I have to take time to do a cam show. I really don't like doing Skype shows & I think giving myself a raise will help my attitude.
    This! So much of this! When I'm getting into longer shows, the discounts I'm offering makes the shows seriously cut into my hourly and I just start cringing now. Some of my guys are SM converts who found me on indy sites, so they know they're getting a deal and they won't bitch too much if I do raise my rates. As for the rest of them, Love makes an excellent point that I'm making assumptions about their spending patterns. Gotta stop doing that and just try it out.


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    I just wanted to say that it's a slow conversion but the interest is ramping up while I'm taking my first real vacation - timing being less than ideal but hell, who says no to a free trip to the Caribbean?

    On the other hand, I took this challenge to heart and raised my already 'high' rates for a fairly newbie chica of $6.49/8.49 on SM to $6.99/9.99. Like I said elsewhere, not only am I making more, having a higher percentage in paid, but one regular actually told me he was GLAD I raised my exclusive rate to $9.99, that it was more than fucking worth it, and would be happy to pay $14.99 if I wanted. Others joined in and I basked in the glory of YAYYY. Best of all, I've had more and more of my regs on SM contact me looking for a Skype show on LCMS for when I'm back from the islands.

    I want to second what LH mentioned above that it is absolutely due to extra off-cam work as well - I'm almost certain that I'd have less than a fifth of the people I've had contact me even know that it was an option. In fact, at $4-5, I'm almost afraid that I might be turning OFF the guys who were so happy to see that increase in my asking price on SM and I'm curious (I probably won't actually try it as I had to take time off right after changing my rates anyways) what would happen if I raised the indy rates more.

    As a veteran Skype cammer and all-around pro, LH, could we perhaps have a LCMS Verified thread? I'd love the chance to ask your opinion about certain things that might push potential indy clients over the edge, but would rather have a private forum to do so


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    Quote Originally Posted by ivybunny View Post
    could we perhaps have a LCMS Verified thread? I'd love the chance to ask your opinion about certain things that might push potential indy clients over the edge, but would rather have a private forum to do so
    I was thinking about that, I have a few things I'd like to talk about (and ask about-expertise and wisdom is not inherently tied to duration of participation in the niche as many of y'all are proving)

    the issue with creating a private group here on sw is that not every chica on LCMS is a sw'er, and I don't want to create a system that forces peeps to join a forum just to access site discussions. For that reason today I'll create a private thread in the LCMS info group and link from the sidebar so it's prominent, I think that's more inclusive than the alternative, with the added benefit of having the info discussed available to listees who join the site/niche in the future.

    on an another note, you're Caribbean-bound? enjoy

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    I bumped up my rates for everything but my 10min shows...I pushed back the ceiling at which I discount from $3/min, and I don't discount as far anymore. The real freaking issue for me is that I haven't been getting any indy shows lately. I have to re-think my promotion that I am currently doing, because it isn't bringing me the return I want.

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    Okay Im Just gonna say it..... I'm not in the challenge... I'm new to Indy and I'm finally getting a good chunk of my shows from Indy sites...I'm I a sweet spot and I'm too scared to do it ....maybe next time I'll participate when I feel more secure with my regulars and Indy game

    Good luck to everyone else!
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    Alright--I made a baby step just now. I half-way raised my rates.

    New rate structure:
    5 - 20 minutes = $3 per minute (used to be 5-10 was $3/minute)
    21-45 minutes = $2.75 per minute (used to be 11-20 was $2.75/minute)
    46+ minutes = $2.50 per minute (used to be 21-40 was $2.50/minute)
    Discounts for longer shows are given at my discretion (used to occur at around the 40-45 minute mark, will now be at the one hour mark)

    If it works, I think I'll up everything by another $.50/minute period. Getting to $4/minute on the bottom of my sliding scale eventually is the goal.


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