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    Last night I was reviewing the local market, something I haven't done in couple of years. I tried to do an honest comparison of rates, services, image and I concluded that I'm "overpriced".

    Is there too many people trying to work in this industry and not enough disposable income to make a living?

    This is a continuation of the discussion from the confessions thread.

    Dancers, Escorts, Cam Girls/Guys, PSO, I'd be interested in reading your comments if any.
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    In my opinion yes.
    The industry is now a place where you need to think about becoming a brand.

    The level of stardust you need to bring is more involved (Sam wrote a great post about this somewhere)

    It doesnt mean you cant make great money in a "flooded" market...just got to find out what makes you different and market yourself correctly.

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    I would also have to say yes but you have to stand out and become unique enough for fans to find you memorable. Every sex worker has something unique about them and most of them owned it. In addition, you have to do something pretty awesome with your marketing and branding in order to really stand out

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    Yes. Way too many girls and not enough money to go around. I have also found that in edition the over-saturation of girls over half of them are charging ridiculously low rates which in turn hurts everyone (at least where I am from) because in order to compete then everyone drops their rates. It has gotten so bad where I am from that now I HAVE to tour in order to make decent money!

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    Speaking as buyer, I would say it is neither a buyers nor a sellers market. Spending on the industry has probably gone done as a whole, but I think that is much more a reflection of the broader economy, than a matter of market saturation.

    I would agree there is much more availability, but I think it is more within the various niches of the sex market. I would also say there are more customers now than before of those various niches. I do think that Cam Girls have had an impact on the other areas of the market, but only because they are a service that was not available before. I think there is the matter of how many consumers use multiple services offered within the sex work industry. I would remove strip clubs from the overall equation, as most men I know have gone, and will go to a strip club, the same cannot be said of the other services. Cam Girls have probably taken some of that market, but more than likely they have stolen customers from the Escort/PSO market, but they probably have also created a new set of customers that did not exist before. The other reason for removing strip clubs from that equation is that just because a man uses an escort, that does not prevent him from going to the strip club every great once in a while with friends, which is the norm for most men.

    I have seen prices within the strip clubs remain unchanged for many years, but wages have also remained stagnant. That is why I think it is more difficult to make a living off of this kind of work, due to their being less disposable income. It makes it appear as though it is a buyers market, but I think it is more a matter of just being able to stay in business right now. I think the question of it having become a buyers will not be settled until we have seen some significant wage increases. Then there will more people able to decide on which segment of the luxury, that is the sex worker, industry they will spend their money on. Then if the other segments have to lower their prices (or at least not raise them) to remain competitive it will be a true buyers market.

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    Yes and there are many reasons. It's always been over flooded but with the internet, greediness (clubs or anything that makes money from the worker), the economy and loosening of standards it has caused this. This might be offensive but I have seen camgirls and even strippers today that would have only been hired at low class clubs years ago. I've seen better clubs that used to be picky hire some unattractive dancers. People might say that it's great many clubs aren't as picky (and I agree to an extent) but the reality is a dancer or camgirls who is 400 pounds for example isn't going to appeal to most. As a result of course to make money many resort to things they wouldn't have many years ago. There's always been prostitution, but not as bad in the clubs as it appears to be now. Things that were extras 20 years ago are common now.

    I suppose the solutions would be for the worker to create their unique niche. Also, not to settle. When I did parties I refused to lower my rates (unless there was a reason like more business)because the lower you charge, the lower your clientele. We didn't book parties in the hood or lower income areas, it was mostly yuppies and other types of professionals. Yes there were lean times, but I preferred that over being branded a low class agency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    ...and I concluded that I'm working in a buyer's market.
    To be honest I concluded that I was "overpriced", charlie61 is really the one to say that escorting is flooding and is a buyers market. So to give credit where credit is due. Charlie, I apologize for stealing your comment.
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    I'll elaborate on Kellydancer's inference, it's difficult to make accurate comparisons in an industry where the industry itself is constantly changing.

    But generally speaking, the industry now has way more willing girls on the 'supply' side, and fewer total customer 'discretionary' spending dollars on the 'demand' side.

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    I think there is oversupply. There are more women willing to do sex work, especially stripping, because it has lost a lot of the stigma it used to have. Stripping has almost become a "cool" job to have in some ways. Couple that with the fact that many women who, because of the economy, are doing sex work, since other decent paying jobs are harder to find.

    On the demand side, men are also having a harder time finding or keeping jobs that provide the discretionary income needed to use the services of sex workers. That means fewer dollars to spread around more and more suppliers. Many have no choice but to reduce prices to get some of those dollars.

    And I haven't really seen a decline in quality that Kelly describes. I see the same mix of attractive and less attractive strippers that I've always seen. I actually think the quality has increased, because even though clubs hire more dancers, they can select from a larger pool of women who want to work in the industry. I think the same is true for escorts.

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    yes but i think its that way with just about anything right now, unless you are marketing to the 1% since they are the only ones with any discretionary income to speak of anymore ( or at least its going that direction). its definitely not just sex work, everywhere its tough but if anything i think we as sex workers still have it relatively easy

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    Last time i went to a club there was like 3 girls per customer. As long as girls have to pay the clubs to work there is going to be no incentive for the clubs not to pack as many girls as they possibly can in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I'll elaborate on Kellydancer's inference, it's difficult to make accurate comparisons in an industry where the industry itself is constantly changing.

    But generally speaking, the industry now has way more willing girls on the 'supply' side, and fewer total customer 'discretionary' spending dollars on the 'demand' side.
    This depend on the demographic area as well. Believe it or not, in some areas there are more customers than sex workers available...thus those customers may travel outside their area to get their service.





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    The industry is saturated with girls, yes but there are very few that actually make a good living.

    It is super easy to get into this biz and a lot of people assume this will be easy money. There's only a small percentage that are persistent and actually treat it like a job. A lot of girls aren't that good, they assume having a nice rack and vagina will make them 6 figures. Most would say my rates are expensive but I STILL sell because it is about how you carry and market yourself and most people fail at that.

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    ^ Agreed. My club is flooded with girls, but very few do well enough for there to be really any "pros" for them to dance instead of just doing a vanilla job. They do make it hard for those of us who treat it like a job though, since we have to wade through customers who either are tired of being approached (and become hostile; "I just want to finish my beer!"), or think they have the upper hand (when they can see 20+ girls and only 5 customers).

    Re: the house fee issue - I would rather be charged a higher house fee and have the daily roster limited to X amount of girls... girls who put effort into their look, don't do extras, and treat it like a job. Girls that don't sit with customers for an hour to make a $100 sale and train them to expect free attention.

    Also, I think stripping has actually LOST some of its glamour. Now it's become a more acceptable job, it doesn't make you a badass to do it, and clubs will just let any old newbie audition. I see less girls looking like "real strippers" and more that just threw on a thong, cut a t-shirt into a crop top, and wandered out on the floor. I think THAT may be part of why dance prices have not increased to match inflation... quality of dancers has gone down so it might be hard to increase dance prices. However, that helps those of us who DO put effort into our look... here, the thong-t-shirt girls do $10 table dances and have to do extras to get $20 in VIP, while we can command $20-$30 a song w/o extras and refuse to do table dances at all on busy nights.

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    That's what I don't get, why do so many today treat it casually? Honestly if I had made the same as a minimum wage job or less I never would have danced. To make money you (you in general) has to treat it like a job.

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    This ^^ the 1% has 40% of the discretionary income and the 5% has the bulk of the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Excuse me if I'm rambling or have gone off topic, or am completely wrong on any count...
    I don't think you were rambling or off topic.

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    This ^^ the 1% has 40% of the discretionary income and the 5% has the bulk of the rest.
    I'm not being confrontational, I want to understand this;

    - so lets take a sample population of 100

    - to keep the math simple, they have $100,000 of discretionary income

    - 1 of the 100 has $40,000 of discretionary income

    - 5 of the 100 have approximately $60,000 of discretionary income

    - 94 of the 100 don't have a significant amount of discretionary income

    If this is true, our economy is a sad situation.

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    If after a session you say to yourself, 'wow I cannot believe I just got paid XXX for that', then you are overpriced, not before that.

    Seriously, do not comparison price shop yourself against others, it is a no win game.

    IMHO if you must compare yourself, do so against the very most expensive competition and ask yourself how you can do what they do, not against Craigslist not-on-the-streetcorner-anymore girls.

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    I'd agree that there is a flood of women willing to try the business. When I was a small kid in the 1980s, strippers were portrayed to me as degenerate drug addicted maniacs. I think the effort to show the light side of stripping (women stripping through University, women saving up to buy homes) kind of backfired & made thousands of women who would never consider the occupation give it a try...

    But I also think with the Internet a lot of women are opting for different ways to make money off of their beauty, like modeling, camming, sugar baby-ing. Dancing is HARD work.

    At the end of the day, it depends on what market a woman is working in. There are hard markets and there are easier ones.

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    I think stripping has actually LOST some of its glamour. Now it's become a more acceptable job, it doesn't make you a badass to do it, and clubs will just let any old newbie audition. I see less girls looking like "real strippers" and more that just threw on a thong, cut a t-shirt into a crop top, and wandered out on the floor. I think THAT may be part of why dance prices have not increased to match inflation... quality of dancers has gone down so it might be hard to increase dance prices. However, that helps those of us who DO put effort into our look... here, the thong-t-shirt girls do $10 table dances and have to do extras to get $20 in VIP, while we can command $20-$30 a song w/o extras and refuse to do table dances at all on busy nights.
    I was trying to be diplomatic about this point, but yes what was once a risqué branch of 'show business' has now become a semi-legal branch of 'sex business'.


    I'm not being confrontational, I want to understand this;

    - so lets take a sample population of 100

    - to keep the math simple, they have $100,000 of discretionary income

    - 1 of the 100 has $40,000 of discretionary income

    - 5 of the 100 have approximately $60,000 of discretionary income

    - 94 of the 100 don't have a significant amount of discretionary income

    If this is true, our economy is a sad situation.
    That's oversimplified, but true at it's root. To get to a more accurate picture, you first have to consider that some ~50% don't have enough 'discretionary' income remaining after paying for 'necessities' thus you'll never see them as strip club customers. So following on the example you started, knock 50 guys right out of the picture.

    Of the ~50% or 50 guys that remain as potential strip club customers, 40 of them are on a 'tight budget'. This can translate into an ability to buy one or two private dances during a strip club visit if they save up for a couple of weeks prior to going to a strip club. This can also translate into some of these guys being willing to spend more than they can afford ( and not pay some 'necessary' bill as a result ) providing that the 'services' being offered by dancers are tantalizing enough ( i.e. 'extras' )

    Of the 10 guys that remain, 1 of them earns HUGE money. Odds are that you will never see this one guy as a strip club customer either ... as he can easily afford top shelf escorts, can easily attract 'willing' girlfriends, and has significant concerns about potential strip club risk factors.

    OF the 9 guys that remain, they actually will have a wide range of 'discretionary income' available after paying for 'necessities'. These are the guys that provide the vast majority of dollars to the strip club economy.

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    ^^^ basically the 10 guys we were talking about above are shown in 'green' i.e. 80th percentile and up.

    Also note that the bars for the top 4%, 3% and 2% earners had to be 'cut off' and shown to the side, so that it was still possible to make out any detail for the 'middle' percentage earners. And the top 1% earner ( that you'll probably never see in a strip club ) required the right edge of the chart all to himself, with his bar folded over 9 times ( otherwise it would have reached up to the beginning of this thread ).

    In terms of real world annual income numbers, a recent study ( Wolff 2012 ) showed the following mean income levels ...

    top 1% - $1,318,000 per year
    top 20% - $226,000 per year
    60% to 80% - $72,000 per year
    40% to 60% - $42,000 per year
    bottom 40% - $17,300 per year
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    Without getting into the actual "is the industry flooded" discussion, and just addressing the concept of being "overpriced" - I will also chime in that if you have clients who are paying you, stick to your prices. If I had followed the market where I live, I would have had to quit after a few months because I am also considered "overpriced" here - however, I could not handle escorting at the average local rate. There's only one other woman here who charges as much as I do, and yes, I've gotten countless emails about how I'm overpriced and should lower my rates. But for every guy who whines about it, I've got 10 guys who are happy to pay my rate.

    Unless you're truly struggling to get clients who think you're worth your rate, don't downgrade yourself based on what other people think they need to charge to make money. At the end of the day, sure you'll get a lot of guys who whine about you being overpriced, but if you've also got guys who think you're worth it, why change what's working for you? There are definitely a lot of men who are willing to pay more if they know that they're getting a much better service than they can expect from the girls who are lower-priced than you. Why try to compete for their demographic of cheaper guys if you're still doing well? There is definitely truth to the idea that's been thrown around here before that in the sex industry, the more a guy is willing to pay, the better and more respectful he is as a customer. The cheaper a guy is, the more he demands for his every dollar. I don't charge higher rates to "get away" with "not working hard," but if I can have enough pleasant, respectful experiences with guys who are willing to pay more rather than a bunch of quick, wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am guys who are constantly pushing for lower boundaries even though they're getting a deal, then that's exactly what I'm going to do.

    Only you know if you're making enough money at your rates and if you truly need to change them. But if you're making money and have repeat clients who are happy to pay, I wouldn't lower prices just based on what other girls are doing. One of the reasons I think the industry is going "downhill" is because of the lowering of prices out of fear because everyone else is doing it, also out of fear. If you can truly demand more and stick to your guns, do it! Don't let the other girls scare you into asking for less than what you think you deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    To get to a more accurate picture, you first have to consider that some ~50% don't have enough 'discretionary' income remaining after paying for 'necessities' thus you'll never see them as strip club customers. So following on the example you started, knock 50 guys right out of the picture.

    Of the ~50% or 50 guys that remain as potential strip club customers, 40 of them are on a 'tight budget'. This can translate into an ability to buy one or two private dances during a strip club visit if they save up for a couple of weeks prior to going to a strip club. This can also translate into some of these guys being willing to spend more than they can afford ( and not pay some 'necessary' bill as a result ) providing that the 'services' being offered by dancers are tantalizing enough ( i.e. 'extras' )

    Of the 10 guys that remain, 1 of them earns HUGE money. Odds are that you will never see this one guy as a strip club customer either ... as he can easily afford top shelf escorts, can easily attract 'willing' girlfriends, and has significant concerns about potential strip club risk factors.

    OF the 9 guys that remain, they actually will have a wide range of 'discretionary income' available after paying for 'necessities'. These are the guys that provide the vast majority of dollars to the strip club economy.
    Wow. Some may quibble about the percentages, but IMHO and IME this is a great breakdown of the demographics of customers who spend money on dancers.

    Though I think we need to distinguish between "dancer customers" and "club customers" for purposes of discussing this. As we all know, many clubs see all too many of the bottom 50%ers, who visit the clubs even when they probably shouldn't. For these guys, the clubs are just bars with naked girls. This happens a lot in smaller cities and more rural areas and many clubs even put on drink specials and other promotions to encourage these guys to come in. The unfortunate reality is that many club owners need the alcohol sales and nominal cover charges from these guys to help pay the bills, even though it sucks for the girls who have to wade through them in order to find the 9%ers who will buy dancers' services.

    But back to the original question, I can only offer a view relating to strip clubs, but IMO the answer is "yes and no." IMO the clubs where there is still money to be made are certainly flooded. But at the same time, there are at least 10% fewer clubs now than existed at the start of the downturn. There are also many other clubs on life support that are just getting by and, hence, are having trouble attracting and keeping talent. So to a girl working in a decent money club I'm sure that the industry feels flooded, but whether the number of girls across the industry has actually increased significantly is more of a question mark from my vantage point.
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    While reading Melonie's post I was reminded of something I've seen and that is how the mid level clubs have either disappeared or are now brothels basically. Back when stripping was starting to be upscale there were many clubs that opened that catered to less affluent. These guys were middle class and upper middle class, but not usually CEO's. These clubs were nice but not like the more upscale. They were somewhat picky but not like the upscale. Anyway with many of these jobs disappearing many clubs went out of business. The others could see they weren't going to Make more money without changing something. As a result they often hire women they never would have and many have to offer more.

    It's important to remember right before the rise in gentlemen's clubs, brothels pretending to be strip clubs was the norm. In my early days I danced with women who had been these dancers and when strictly entertainment. However many of these clubs closed and many owners opened legit clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    That's what I don't get, why do so many today treat it casually? Honestly if I had made the same as a minimum wage job or less I never would have danced. To make money you (you in general) has to treat it like a job.
    I think some are drawn to dancing simply because of no schedules. My club is very casual, come and go as you please, no minimum shift, so if I was still in school, you bet your ass I'd pop in for an hour before class and leave with $50. That's worth something to me. But you're right, that won't add up to big $$ and along with those 1-2 hour blips, I'd be in there every Friday for 7-8 hours stacking the bigger bucks, like it's a job.
    I don't get how some girls consistently make so little and yet work it as their only job. There's a few that routinely stay for 5-6 hours and leave with $100, and work 5 day weeks... like, what? Might as well have a vanilla job that pays the tax for you at that rate!
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

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