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    Duh What are the rates of Camgirls depending on which site they work?

    As a precaution - I know that there's a 'Raise your Rates' thread, but that's not quite what I am looking for.
    But if this is against some forum rule that my noob-ish ass hasn't clocked onto then I apologise in advance.

    Anyways, so I have been going on sites to see what the rates are for girls in order to get an idea of what to charge myself.
    I'm waiting to be approved by SM, but for some reason can't create an account outside of my camming one in order to check rates myself.

    But as a guide could you give me an idea of what to expect in terms of rates from SM. I noticed that nationality seems to affect it but not sure
    why. I'm from the UK, BBW/SSBBW, 20 yrs old and black. Besides these what else do you think impacts what a girl charges. Please share as
    little or as much as you can.
    Of course if you work outside of SM, please share anyways I'mm always looking to hear what you have to say.

    Thanks.

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    SM will give you set rates to start with. After a certain amount of time they will send you a message saying they raised your rate options. Only you can decide what you want to charge. You can always look around at other models rates, show ideas, profile comments, tags etc to get a feel for similar models. My advice is don't hesitate to start off higher rates, sell yourself short or underestimate your potential. It's easier to start up and work down than the other way around. For me I started off at 2.99 for premium and 4.99 for exclusive. I thought my rates were high, thinking only top row super popular girls could charge more, no guy would ever pay that much for me. But eventually I slowly started to increased them (aka I gave myself a raise ) and I am kicking myself in the ass for underestimating my income potential for so long! Whatever your rates are, make sure they are decent for you and own it. Remember, there will always be guys who think cam sites are like flea markets and will try to negotiate rates, do not give into those cheapos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtybustyteen View Post
    As a precaution - I know that there's a 'Raise your Rates' thread, but that's not quite what I am looking for.
    But if this is against some forum rule that my noob-ish ass hasn't clocked onto then I apologise in advance.

    Anyways, so I have been going on sites to see what the rates are for girls in order to get an idea of what to charge myself.
    I'm waiting to be approved by SM, but for some reason can't create an account outside of my camming one in order to check rates myself.

    But as a guide could you give me an idea of what to expect in terms of rates from SM. I noticed that nationality seems to affect it but not sure
    why. I'm from the UK, BBW/SSBBW, 20 yrs old and black. Besides these what else do you think impacts what a girl charges. Please share as
    little or as much as you can.
    Of course if you work outside of SM, please share anyways I'mm always looking to hear what you have to say.

    Thanks.
    How long is a piece of string? Just fiddle with your rates and see what works for you.

    But to be a bit more helpful, I'm from the UK too, 21, BBW and mixed-race, been back on SM about a week and I charge 3.99/5.99. I think I could probably get away with 4.99/5.99. Can't go higher than that just yet because of the limit.

    Race/age/size etc. probably do have some effect on earning potential, but I think most of it is what you put in to it: What's your stream quality like? How is your lighting? Do you put effort into your shows? Do you take time to market yourself? etc...

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    I think 4.99/5.99 on streamate is a good base when first starting out. That's what I started out at. Was able to make around $450-500 a week with those rates.





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    Don't start lower than $4.99 for either rate. It is WAY easier to lower rates than raise them, but I personally think any bb on SM should be charging a minimum of $4.99. You're worth it!

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    As a UK girl you need to charge more on US sites as the dollar and exchange rates do not favour us. When i was on Sm I charged $8.99/$9.99, indie I am around $4 and the same with sites that pay 70%+, and on AW I am £3.50 x
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    I started out with low rates, because I wasn't sure if people would pay higher rates considering I'm nearly BBW size and rather average looking. I also offer a lot of fetishes and feel those custs are more willing to pay and become repeat customers if you offer their fetish and do it well. I bumped my rates to 7.99/6.99 and have made a much better hourly rate at these rates, and for less work.




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    I agree.. I wish I knew about this forum when I started camming. I was at 2.99 and it wasn't until another cam girl came into my chat to tell me that im too pretty too be charging such a low rate that I upped them.
    If I had it to do all over, I would start as high as possible, tweet, etc. to get custies to my room, then immediately ask sm for a higher rate chart.
    I lost a lot of money, because guys just didn't want to pay even a dollar more, when I raised them.
    Now, it's a struggle to raise them to where I think they should be, or when I do, I just sit and sit in free chat with a bunch of complainers.

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    Wow! I have them set to 3.99/5.99
    Of course my rates are capped at the moment but its interesting to hear that its harder to increase than go down.
    I guess it makes sense, the more guys are familiar with your rates, the more they're gonna get pissy when you hike them up.

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    I'm a UK girl on SM. Don't wait for SM to offer to raise your rates, email support, tell them you want to offer shows at $20 per min, that's what they will cap you at then. You will then be able to charge what ever you like up to that limit. I offer exc
    @$4.99 and premium @ $7.99. Yep my excs are less, there's a very good reason and it works for me. Trial and error will work for you but as has already been said, don't forget to allow for the exchange rate. Oh and American guys love the British accent, charge higher of you have sound and talk lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by dianecallaway View Post
    I did a lot of research on this and the average price is $2.99 a min that means it includes the high and the low's. If a site is taking 70% then the girl is making .89 a minute which means $53 an hour. That is pretty darn good money. I always tell girls to keep in mind that the average escort is $250 an hour. You can not expect to make what a girl in person makes. You also have to keep in mind that you want to stay busy it is better to work six hours a day and be busy all six hours, then to work twelve hours a day and sit for most that time. I would think $3.29 to $3.99 on a site that is taking around 70% is a pretty good place to be for a girl that works full time. If you work less hours you want to charge LESS because you dont have the regular's so you are more dependent on the site to bring you traffic. I would set goal as $200 a day and expect to make $100 to $200 a day. If you are making less then you may have issues with hardware (lightening, cam quality, outfits, toys etc) OR you are not working enough hours OR you are priced too high. Now some girls make a lot more than $200 a day but I can tell you this the top girls on cams.com make around $300 a day (I asked) most of those are Russian girls whose rooms are kept open 24 hours a day. I charge less on niteflirt because we use free camming service skype and I make a far better cut. So keep that in mind you want to stay in a price range where guys that make $40K to $100K can afford you without thinking about cost. Hope that helps some.
    It really has not worked that way for me. $2.99 would burn me out within an hour and seems to just attract cheap assholes. I find the customers who can afford to pay more don't rush me and stay way longer instead of trying to get off in short bursts.

    I'm all for experimenting but to me that seems super low if you have HD, a good connection and provide an interactive experience.


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    For a front page SM model the average price seems to be $4.99 regardless who you are or what you look like. $4.99 is a good amount on there. As a new model, I would start at $4.99 because you will be on the new models page and that will give you good exposure.

    I definitely wouldn't advise $2.99/min on SM. Another reason that you might see models from places like Russia, for example, charging so low is because exchange rates pockets them way more than US$2.99. So it's actually a lot more money for them. I know you are a UK performer, but I still think it's something people over look when they see models charging low rates. $2.99/min for a US performer is not very common, from what I have seen. I definitely would not say it is average.

    So like sexysusie said, you may want to actually charge more because the exchange rate is not as good for the UK as it is for other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dianecallaway View Post
    I did a lot of research on this and the average price is $2.99 a min that means it includes the high and the low's. If a site is taking 70% then the girl is making .89 a minute which means $53 an hour. That is pretty darn good money. I always tell girls to keep in mind that the average escort is $250 an hour. You can not expect to make what a girl in person makes. You also have to keep in mind that you want to stay busy it is better to work six hours a day and be busy all six hours, then to work twelve hours a day and sit for most that time. I would think $3.29 to $3.99 on a site that is taking around 70% is a pretty good place to be for a girl that works full time. If you work less hours you want to charge LESS because you dont have the regular's so you are more dependent on the site to bring you traffic. I would set goal as $200 a day and expect to make $100 to $200 a day. If you are making less then you may have issues with hardware (lightening, cam quality, outfits, toys etc) OR you are not working enough hours OR you are priced too high. Now some girls make a lot more than $200 a day but I can tell you this the top girls on cams.com make around $300 a day (I asked) most of those are Russian girls whose rooms are kept open 24 hours a day. I charge less on niteflirt because we use free camming service skype and I make a far better cut. So keep that in mind you want to stay in a price range where guys that make $40K to $100K can afford you without thinking about cost. Hope that helps some.
    2,99 a minute I had less % in payed chat and less "gentlemen" around than the price I am at right now after raising them steadily for 3 years. At 9.99 12.99 at the moment for a looong while now.
    300 a day is a minimum goal of mine, if I put in the houres its very easily attainable at this point for me (even working parttime, never ever worked 40 houres a week yet), but with my lower prices I would have struggled real hard to get there.
    Dont think to much about the customers think about youreself and what you want to make a min (your cut).
    As other are saying, dont start to low, it is very hard to get them up. It took me three years to get where I am now since I started at 2.99 pvt. It was harder work, more work and for less $ a houre, with the most demanding customers. I had to create a whole new following over the years.

    Right now I can make more than an excort does per houre- the rate your mentioned, if I am having an ultra amazing wonderfull houre with multiple guys inside my pvt room. Would have never happened with my 2.99 pvt price.

    There is NO LIMIT, and thats the beauty of this job. Dont limit yourself thinking to much about customer perspective.
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    I was charged 2.99 when i started and have new model icon but after i raise,i was many time with 4.99 and 6.99 and i doing very good just days ago up 70 cents more... And with 4.99 for earn 10 bucks i have to get a private of 6 minutes....so if the price es 2.99 for earn 10 bucks u have to get 11 minutes private,you can work with 2.99 but will be so much harder,and you will have many assholes that only looking cheep girls and dont respect
    I recomended you start with 4.99 try it, if doesnt work u can low a little bit..

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    2.99 is madness. Don't know how anyone can seriously charge that little unless they're from a country where it's going to buy them a LOT more than in the US/ UK! Never sell yourself short. Shen your new is the absolute best time to have HIGH prices. Not only will you start out as you mean to go on but you'll probably earn more now than you may ever do again. Get as much as you can, as often as you can, for as long as you can! Fuck what anyone else is charging or how he economy (hypothetically) is affecting guys cause believe me it's not! For every guy buying time with a 2.99 girl there are dozens more buying it from a 9.99 girl. They buy into you not your prices x
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    Actually, the USD to GBD exchange rate is fucking AWESOME at the moment. :-D But of course, that fluctuates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianecallaway View Post
    I did a lot of research on this and the average price is $2.99 a min that means it includes the high and the low's. If a site is taking 70% then the girl is making .89 a minute which means $53 an hour. That is pretty darn good money. I always tell girls to keep in mind that the average escort is $250 an hour. You can not expect to make what a girl in person makes. You also have to keep in mind that you want to stay busy it is better to work six hours a day and be busy all six hours, then to work twelve hours a day and sit for most that time. I would think $3.29 to $3.99 on a site that is taking around 70% is a pretty good place to be for a girl that works full time. If you work less hours you want to charge LESS because you dont have the regular's so you are more dependent on the site to bring you traffic. I would set goal as $200 a day and expect to make $100 to $200 a day. If you are making less then you may have issues with hardware (lightening, cam quality, outfits, toys etc) OR you are not working enough hours OR you are priced too high. Now some girls make a lot more than $200 a day but I can tell you this the top girls on cams.com make around $300 a day (I asked) most of those are Russian girls whose rooms are kept open 24 hours a day. I charge less on niteflirt because we use free camming service skype and I make a far better cut. So keep that in mind you want to stay in a price range where guys that make $40K to $100K can afford you without thinking about cost. Hope that helps some.
    If a site is taking 70% then the girl is making .89 a minute which means $53 an hour. That is pretty darn good money. I always tell girls to keep in mind that the average escort is $250 an hour. You can not expect to make what a girl in person makes.

    I have a major problem with that statement in so many ways. Rarely is a cam girl is in private for an entire hour every hour she is on cam. The ones who are do CHARGE way more than that per minute & the girls who charge $2.99 per minute from what I can tell NEVER do. Who are you to tell any girl she doesn't deserve to make more than $250 an hour just because she isn't fucking a man in person? I or any other performer deserves to make just as much money per minute, hour, day, week, month and year that we can.

    One thing I will NEVER EVER feel Guilty about is making GREAT MONEY! Just because some other girl is willing to fuck a guy in person for $250 an hour, I have custies on cam who take me exclusive at $10 per minute & tip me $100 several times. I can and do on a regular basis make $300 in under 20 minutes just off one guy. I deserve every bit of it. My job is to train more men and I do to be just like that when I log on.

    Nor do I care about how much money men pull down a year and what they can afford, NONE of my business. I'm not their accountant.

    Also can careless what some Russian or any other model is doing to make what they make or how long they have to work to do it. In the end, only person you compete with is yourself. Once thought all there was to make on cam was $20 per hour, then I found this site and found out I was underestimating myself, my customers & the web.

    To the OP of this thread, charge what you can & ROCK IT! If a guy tells you are too expensive then he isn't the client for you, because there are thousands of beggars who think we all should be doing this for free. There are many girls on different sites & free porn tubesites for that kind of custie, YET he is in your room. So he passed on all the freebies & actually does want to pay for what you got going on. Don't let them lie to you.

    Performers who charge a lot less are NOT always making the money due to being a VALUE! Horny dicks don't shop for the cheapest but for what turns them on. If you don't value yourself, then no one else will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianecallaway View Post
    I did a lot of research on this and the average price is $2.99 a min that means it includes the high and the low's. If a site is taking 70% then the girl is making .89 a minute which means $53 an hour. That is pretty darn good money.
    I don't think that taking the average of the entire site is all that helpful, honestly. Why should someone who speaks English, has a good computer, fast internet and an hd cam factor in the .99/min ladies who have none of those things? They aren't the competition. It would make more sense to average out the prices of models who are in a similar category.

    Also, it's unrealistic to say that someone who charges $2.99/min and keeps .89/min would make $50+/hr. She would have to be in a show 100% of the time she's online! I would cut that number in half at least.

    You also have to keep in mind that you want to stay busy it is better to work six hours a day and be busy all six hours, then to work twelve hours a day and sit for most that time.
    This is true up to a point, but the quality of your customers goes so far down at lower price points that it almost isn't worth it. I would honestly rather sit around longer and work with kind, respectful men than bust my ass trying to please the "harder faster BIGGER TOYS HARDER BB" guys (who will then leave a one star review and a nasty comment). It's all about finding the right balance. Offering a few different options works out well too. I have customers ranging from CEOs to broke college guys because I offer a variety of different shows at different price points (inexpensive gold shows/moderately priced private/higher priced exclusive).

    The best thing to do is check out similar ladies and experiment with prices. I started off as high as I could when I first started on SM, and I assumed I would have to lower them from there. NOPE. I started raising my rates as soon as I could because I *had* to in order to keep up with the traffic. I say start high and see what happens. SM lets you adjust your rates multiple times per *day* so take advantage of that! You'll never know what you can make until you try.


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    When I started sm I was 2.99. .... Because I cam for lj I thought it was high.... Well the sm guys thought I was cheap all taking me pvt back to back I was sweating and getting dressed/undressed like a maniac!! My room was trashed toys everywhere!! One guy even said " well I had to its such a good deal" lol.. Now I'm 5.99/7.99 and I make the SAME MONEY! No running around... Nicer clientele .. Also escort?? Really?? There's no connection with a escort Nothing against them... But guys actually connect with us emotionally unlike most escorts that to me is worth wayyy more!!! ....it's just different guys ussually are just trying to get in and get out with escorts as they are as well guys tell us there most deeper inner feeling and desires... That can be outright creepy gross and taboo at times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    If a site is taking 70% then the girl is making .89 a minute which means $53 an hour. That is pretty darn good money. I always tell girls to keep in mind that the average escort is $250 an hour. You can not expect to make what a girl in person makes.

    I have a major problem with that statement in so many ways. Rarely is a cam girl is in private for an entire hour every hour she is on cam. The ones who are do CHARGE way more than that per minute & the girls who charge $2.99 per minute from what I can tell NEVER do. Who are you to tell any girl she doesn't deserve to make more than $250 an hour just because she isn't fucking a man in person? I or any other performer deserves to make just as much money per minute, hour, day, week, month and year that we can.

    One thing I will NEVER EVER feel Guilty about is making GREAT MONEY! Just because some other girl is willing to fuck a guy in person for $250 an hour, I have custies on cam who take me exclusive at $10 per minute & tip me $100 several times. I can and do on a regular basis make $300 in under 20 minutes just off one guy. I deserve every bit of it. My job is to train more men and I do to be just like that when I log on.

    Nor do I care about how much money men pull down a year and what they can afford, NONE of my business. I'm not their accountant.

    Also can careless what some Russian or any other model is doing to make what they make or how long they have to work to do it. In the end, only person you compete with is yourself. Once thought all there was to make on cam was $20 per hour, then I found this site and found out I was underestimating myself, my customers & the web.

    To the OP of this thread, charge what you can & ROCK IT! If a guy tells you are too expensive then he isn't the client for you, because there are thousands of beggars who think we all should be doing this for free. There are many girls on different sites & free porn tubesites for that kind of custie, YET he is in your room. So he passed on all the freebies & actually does want to pay for what you got going on. Don't let them lie to you.

    Performers who charge a lot less are NOT always making the money due to being a VALUE! Horny dicks don't shop for the cheapest but for what turns them on. If you don't value yourself, then no one else will.

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only what is leftover from the hustlers."- Abraham Lincoln

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    Default Re: What are the rates of Camgirls depending on which site they work?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLovely View Post
    Also escort?? Really?? There's no connection with a escort Nothing against them... But guys actually connect with us emotionally unlike most escorts that to me is worth wayyy more!!! ....it's just different guys ussually are just trying to get in and get out with escorts
    I think you're thinking of a type of working girl that's not always called an escort. As far as I know, one of the most in-demand services for escorts is GFE, which may involve multiple hours at a time, most of which is not spent doing sex acts, and it involves a fairly high level of intimacy and closeness. Many high level escorts also refuse to book less than 3 hours at a time because they expect the date to actually be, you know, a date.
    Personally, I prefer being compared to an escort rather than a porn star. I like that what I do is a (virtual) intimate encounter, rather than something scripted and performed (no offense to porn, it's just not my style). Having said that, spending an hour with me in SM exclusive is comparable to high end escort rates for the customer (although sadly not for me), and I see no problem with that.

    On the thread topic, I know that a certain prominent, evil studio insists that all their new models start at 3.99/4.99. If that's what they're telling all their new models, I see no reason for any new non-studio models to start any lower.
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    I'm not other models, its not slow.

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    With all due respect, dianecallaway, she asked about camgirls. It is my understanding that you are primarily clips and PSO. We gave her our opinion, yours differs. Luckily for me, I am happily at 4.99/6.99 on box sites, $3 on indy, and I do quite well. Remember that studies take everyone into account, including girls who work part-time and don't need that much money, and I highly doubt in an industry like this that it's a terribly comprehensive survey. An estimate, I would call it. And quite frankly, 60k for the hours I put in is about right, and I don't do 40 hours a week. This is getting rambling and I am getting annoyed, so I'll stop.

    To the OP: value yourself. If you put your rates at 4.99 but feel like it is too high, the guys will sense that. I am at my rates because I KNOW I am worth it...in fact, I think the guys are getting a great deal and plan to bump them up a bit in the coming year because I'm worth it. Go forth into camming, read this forum, we're all pulling for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianecallaway View Post
    But for a new girl to step in and expect to make a living at $5 a min when a girl that has been around who is WAY more up on the site that is just NOT going to happen. I have NEVER seen a girl that charges a lot that is not backed by a porn company with huge amounts of advertising behind her be able to sustain herself.
    Then I guess you haven't been paying much attention? I started at 4.99/min on SM as a total newbie and raised my rates from there. I couldn't stay at that rate because the demand was too high! And no, I am not backed by anyone other than myself. Then only help I've received was in the form of advice from other camgirls on this forum.



    The average cam girl in the United States makes $60K a year and the average Phone Sex Operator makes $40K a year. I dont just pull numbers out my ass they come from real studies done by places that it matters too.
    I am legitimately interested in seeing those studies. Do you have a link?

    I don't really understand why you're bringing up escort prices here. Camgirls and escorts are apples and oranges. The guys who want camgirls WANT CAMGIRLS. It's convenient to just log on a site and browse thousands of models. You don't have to do anything in person which is great for shy/introverted guys, it's discreet, it's legal, no risk of STDs and best of all, you can do shows for 5 minutes, 20 minutes...whatever you want! Whereas with an escort you'll most likely have to book at least half an hour which means $$$ up front.

    If you want to see what some of the ladies who have replied to you are making, check out the "challenge" threads. I know a lot of us have posted in the $2000+ thread and the six figure thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dianecallaway View Post
    nope have been with a number of cam sites since 2007 so you are mistaken. I am just focusing this year on those other products so that is what I discuss the most. I personally think that paying a company 70% is not a good business model but I do use it.
    Does it hack me off that SM takes 65% of the money? Yup. But when I can make a few hundred a day at 35%, oh well. It's a shit business model in terms of each camgirl as a business, but going all-indy starting out would be borderline impossible. She asked what to charge, not how to undercharge with a hypothetical 100% private rate. People were trying to be realistic and helpful, and I don't think your answer was either, quite frankly.

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    Wow, that was either the fastest about-face from a statistic-thumper I have ever seen, or some very speedy mod work.

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