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    I've combed the threads here on how to become an escort but I have a few more questions pertaining to my situation. If any providers could help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it.

    I'm a very pretty ebony bbw hoping to dip my toe into escorting. I live in the midwest and my city only has about 300,000 people in it and is the 4th populated city in my state. I've done a bit of research on escorting and I feel that I can definitely do well with my niches. However, I feel like there are not enough high end providers in my specific niche.

    I'd like to list myself as a high end BBW escort but after searching my local and surrounding areas it seems to be a lot of $60-200 providers in my area. All of these women have regular unprofessional photos (with their faces showing) and post on BP and such. I'm trying to set myself apart but I'm afraid that if I charge $300-400 range I won't get any clients. I'm thinking I'm either going to do very well, or hear crickets. I do very well for myself as a webcam provider and charge high prices with no issues but we all know that escorting is limited (unless you're traveling) compared to the possibilities of web cam clients.

    I've been reading a few customer posts on TER and noticed that one guy was bitching about girls charging $400 but offering half assed service. He mentioned those were high end prices. I don't personally think $400 is all that "high end" but perhaps I'm just uppity as fuck

    The most traffic I see is in larger cities (obviously) but I don't really wish to travel at this time until I get a better understanding of it. However, when I search for my city not much shows up aside from a ton of BP ads.

    Incall/Outcall- I'd prefer to do incalls and I have a stunning home but I'm thinking that I don't wish to bring my clients here. I live in a mid-high end condo with an association and I fear that neighbors will blow the whistle of they notice too many "strangers" showing up. I do have a privacy fence in my backyard but to let them in that way seems a bit unprofessional IMHO.

    I've chosen to go independent but the screening process scares me. Do you think it's worth keeping all of your money and going indy head first or should I hire a professional booking service to screen for me? I've made notes on how to screen and I will screen heavily just to protect my image as well as that of my future clients.

    What is a high end BBW to do in a not so great area? Thank you in advance for your help!

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    Anyone?

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    This is a slow forum. Patience.

    Earnings = rates * volume. At one point my base rate was $1400/3hrs, but volume was about one session per month. Depending on your priorities, it's better to be busy at $200/hr than it is to hold out for $400/hr and only see one client per week. Also... Clearing a terrific amount of money in one weekend and then dealing with two months of crickets screws with your head like nothing else.

    Did you check Eros? If you're in a particularly uninhabited area, you can probably get a free ad on there.

    Ignore everyone on TER or any other hobbyist forum / review board. IIRC, GrainBeltNews is focused on parts of the Midwest, in case you want to advertise there. Just a heads up about the forum: http://www.southerngfe.com/forums/sh...news-Publisher

    Check the post history here for the incall/outcall debate and discussion of screening. The only escort assistant I can recommend would be SASKHannaBella, and even then, there's really no value in getting a screener unless you're absolutely slammed with business. I've had maybe three weeks over a 1.5yr career where I had so much business that I could have used an assistant, and that was primarily because I was touring hard.

    Realistically, if you want to make good money, you'll need to tour - niche marketing is great because the guys who are into that niche will respond terrifically, but first you need access to men wanting your niche. If you don't want to tour, your only other option for making money is to start advertising 'fly me to you' dates, then hoping and praying that your marketing is strong enough that it's worth all the hassle involved for a man to pay the premium for such.

    I don't want to discourage you, but you're in a difficult niche - I don't know of any BBWs getting really high rates. You can absolutely make money, but focus on high-end work and service rather than high rates.

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    Thank you, Aberrett. I did check Eros, checked GrainBeltNews as well. I can't really tour right now but perhaps I'd be willing to drive to a few cities in my area. Excuse me for saying this but I find it hard to believe that the only way I'll make good money is if I had customers fly me out. I mean, pussy is pussy and local pussy shouldn't be cancelled out, no?

    I don't see myself offering my services for under $300. I have done this once in college and was given $300 so unless the market has changed I don't see myself (and have been advised) to go below $300. A lot of people said the same thing with BBW and webcamming. "No one is going to pay $10 a min to see a bbw." but that theory went out the window as well.

    I've heard from a few BBW who are charging top notch so I know the money is there and they don't travel. Granted they are in more populated areas, but they're still charging top notch(like $500-900) Thank you so much for your advice, but I'm not going to go below $300. Since this isn't my only source of income I'd be okay with 1-2 clients a week if that's what it takes for me to get $300+, especially with fetishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousone85 View Post
    Thank you, Aberrett. I did check Eros, checked GrainBeltNews as well. I can't really tour right now but perhaps I'd be willing to drive to a few cities in my area. Excuse me for saying this but I find it hard to believe that the only way I'll make good money is if I had customers fly me out. I mean, pussy is pussy and local pussy shouldn't be cancelled out, no?
    Thinking in terms of 'pussy is pussy' pits you in competition against street walkers.

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    I don't see myself offering my services for under $300. I have done this once in college and was given $300 so unless the market has changed I don't see myself (and have been advised) to go below $300. A lot of people said the same thing with BBW and webcamming. "No one is going to pay $10 a min to see a bbw." but that theory went out the window as well.
    I think $300/hr is pretty reasonable - nationally, it's one of the major price lines that separates the wheat from the chaff.

    Quote Originally Posted by curiousone85 View Post
    I've heard from a few BBW who are charging top notch so I know the money is there and they don't travel. Granted they are in more populated areas, but they're still charging top notch(like $500-900) Thank you so much for your advice, but I'm not going to go below $300. Since this isn't my only source of income I'd be okay with 1-2 clients a week if that's what it takes for me to get $300+, especially with fetishes.
    Yeah, and somebody sitting in NYC or Boston can get that. Their cost of living is also that much proportionally greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abarrett View Post
    Thinking in terms of 'pussy is pussy' pits you in competition against street walkers.



    I think $300/hr is pretty reasonable - nationally, it's one of the major price lines that separates the wheat from the chaff.



    Yeah, and somebody sitting in NYC or Boston can get that. Their cost of living is also that much proportionally greater.
    My cost of living is just as expensive as someone living in Boston but I digress. I see what you mean. What I meant by pussy is pussy is that people will still pay a higher price for it. Supply and demand. But I get you and I appreciate you answering my ad and helping me.

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    My opinion- 1) great pics, 2) great ads 3) network a little bit with girls who have good reps and finally honestly 4) the real money is in traveling.

    I can PM you info about a great board with a lot of info. I'd prefer not to put it here for obvious reasons.

    You should also use facebook- it's been huge with escorts, but mainly it will help you build a "fan base" that will keep getting you bookings.

    GMail works the same in making it easy to communicate with clients- just don't link it to your personal life.

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    Thank you Snuffle, I'm a little concerned with FB. I have a personal one that I don't wish to cross boundaries, but also, how will it fare if you are opposed to showing your face? Thanks!

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    Make your fb look fake-personal (random body pics like a day at the beach or lake, plus pet pics, dinner pics and random fb stuff.)

    fb is actually really helpful for escorting..wish I had used it more!

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    Girl, I'm BBW and I've been around the block. I hear what you're saying and it is hella valuable to know your worth- but it's also the most important part of any good business plan to KNOW YOUR MARKET. If you can't get it right now, you can't get it. Think of this like a business; do the research in your area and your niche. Stop thinking of what you want to charge and look at what the market will sustain.

    Just like every other type of sex worker, typically escorts start out lower and then can charge more and more as they gain experience and regulars. Ain't no BBW camgirl started out at $10 a minute. We all had to get our newbie shit together. I am not saying you can't draw your lines- you can and you should, do NOT do this work for less than you feel is WORTH IT. But I am saying to look at your business plan and market, and have reasonable expectations; $300 an hour may not amount to 1-2 appointments a week, depending. Not right now. You need to get a name, get your regulars, get your advertising together. It takes time.

    I think you'll get what you want. But navigate the entry into escorting with wisdom and a long range view. Research, research, research. Good luck, I'm pulling for you! BBWs makin' bank!

    P.S. Please don't let those people into your home. Let it be your happy place.
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    Double post, builds character!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerpa View Post
    Girl, I'm BBW and I've been around the block. I hear what you're saying and it is hella valuable to know your worth- but it's also the most important part of any good business plan to KNOW YOUR MARKET. If you can't get it right now, you can't get it. Think of this like a business; do the research in your area and your niche. Stop thinking of what you want to charge and look at what the market will sustain.

    Just like every other type of sex worker, typically escorts start out lower and then can charge more and more as they gain experience and regulars. Ain't no BBW camgirl started out at $10 a minute. We all had to get our newbie shit together. I am not saying you can't draw your lines- you can and you should, do NOT do this work for less than you feel is WORTH IT. But I am saying to look at your business plan and market, and have reasonable expectations; $300 an hour may not amount to 1-2 appointments a week, depending. Not right now. You need to get a name, get your regulars, get your advertising together. It takes time.

    I think you'll get what you want. But navigate the entry into escorting with wisdom and a long range view. Research, research, research. Good luck, I'm pulling for you! BBWs makin' bank!

    P.S. Please don't let those people into your home. Let it be your happy place.
    Great advice, I appreciate it! I'll keep researching.

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    I would also advise not hosting incall from home. Once you start establishing regular clients, there will be a few that you connect with on a more personal level. There is nothing wrong with that, I mean you still want to keep your personal information private, I'm just saying you may open up on a more personal level, if that makes sense. You may also spend a little more time, just talking or whatever, an hour appointment may run an hour and 20 mins becuase you enjoy the gentlemens company. Again, there is nothing wrong with that and your perogative to do so. I do it myself with clients I haven't seen in a long time, and who's company I enjoy.

    The problem lies in the fact that the guys that you think are "really cool" turn out to be the ones that go psycho. Lines get blurred, and I even had one client call me drunk because I posted an ad! You do NOT want ANYBODY knowing where you live! Even if you host incall from a hotel, don't cross the line and allow these clients you think you can trust into your home, for all of the reasons mentioned above.

    I live in a small city, and although I KNOW I deserve more, it's reallly difficult to get more that $200-250/an hour right now. The economy isn't all that great, and asking for $300 right off the bat in a small area isn't going to fly. If you can get more, by all means, but I would start low, and if you decided to travel, even to a city that's close, then ask for $250-300. It's up to you, but if you aren't going to be traveling, you will stay busy at the 2-250 range. I offer both incall and outcall, and I am priced at those rates. They work well for me, I wish I could charge more but this is my only source of income and the competition is fierce. I would rather make enough money to live off of than struggle over a $50 price point. Plus, clients will call/see you more often. I'd rather a client see me every 4-6 wks, then every 10-12 weeks because of the rate
    difference.

    If you browse Eros ads, the girls that advertise there usually have links to their websites. You can visit their sites and get a feel for what they are setting their rates at. And like the poster above said, the cost of living is more in a bigger city, so if you are in a smaller one, the rate difference would even out and be comparable to the cost of living in your area.

    It's ypour decision, we are just trying to give you advice based on our experiences, we have, or at least I have, been out here working through this economic downturn, and really, that is the best advice I can give you.

    Keep us posted, as I'm curious now, lol. Good Lick, and always listen to your intution...if you have a bad feeling about somebody, please don't go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.adventure View Post
    I would also advise not hosting incall from home. Once you start establishing regular clients, there will be a few that you connect with on a more personal level. There is nothing wrong with that, I mean you still want to keep your personal information private, I'm just saying you may open up on a more personal level, if that makes sense. You may also spend a little more time, just talking or whatever, an hour appointment may run an hour and 20 mins becuase you enjoy the gentlemens company. Again, there is nothing wrong with that and your perogative to do so. I do it myself with clients I haven't seen in a long time, and who's company I enjoy.

    The problem lies in the fact that the guys that you think are "really cool" turn out to be the ones that go psycho. Lines get blurred, and I even had one client call me drunk because I posted an ad! You do NOT want ANYBODY knowing where you live! Even if you host incall from a hotel, don't cross the line and allow these clients you think you can trust into your home, for all of the reasons mentioned above.

    I live in a small city, and although I KNOW I deserve more, it's reallly difficult to get more that $200-250/an hour right now. The economy isn't all that great, and asking for $300 right off the bat in a small area isn't going to fly. If you can get more, by all means, but I would start low, and if you decided to travel, even to a city that's close, then ask for $250-300. It's up to you, but if you aren't going to be traveling, you will stay busy at the 2-250 range. I offer both incall and outcall, and I am priced at those rates. They work well for me, I wish I could charge more but this is my only source of income and the competition is fierce. I would rather make enough money to live off of than struggle over a $50 price point. Plus, clients will call/see you more often. I'd rather a client see me every 4-6 wks, then every 10-12 weeks because of the rate
    difference.

    If you browse Eros ads, the girls that advertise there usually have links to their websites. You can visit their sites and get a feel for what they are setting their rates at. And like the poster above said, the cost of living is more in a bigger city, so if you are in a smaller one, the rate difference would even out and be comparable to the cost of living in your area.

    It's ypour decision, we are just trying to give you advice based on our experiences, we have, or at least I have, been out here working through this economic downturn, and really, that is the best advice I can give you.

    Keep us posted, as I'm curious now, lol. Good Lick, and always listen to your intution...if you have a bad feeling about somebody, please don't go.
    I will definitely keep these things in mind. I'm still going to go for $300+. Maybe even $500. Hey, if that means 1 guy in 6 months, oh well. To separate the wheat from the chaff just to see how I fair. I mean, I'm not starving out here or anything and I'd rather see a client or two than a ton for a cheaper rate. Camming and such is my main income and I do great there but I want to dip my toe into something else to fair on those days I don't feel like camming for 8+ hours.

    I get what you're saying but if I can live without a $50 price point, why can't the customer? I charge high anyway with cam (I know, different genre but still...) because I know that 35%-65% of my income is being taken away as well but the customer still has to pay for the inflation do they not?

    I just get the sense of "Well, I'm a bbw so there's no way the guys will pay for it." and I just don't don't believe that. When someone tells me it can't be done, I prove it to myself that it can. Period. I mean, isn't it a possibility that maybe the customers most girls get are just cheap customers? What happened to knowing your market and marketing to them? If Bob makes $100k a year he can afford a $300+ one hour incall/outcall. There may only be a few Bobs out there but I'd prefer him over Cheap Chester. Also, escorts also need to charge based on their own financial responsibilities. I live in an upscale area paying upscale rent ($1k) in my area so I'm sure you can see why I need at least the amount I ask for. Some of these girls only have to pay $400 a month for rent. I'm not that girl though. You better believe that if I'm paying for an upscale location, treating upscale men, and paying upscale bills that I'm going to charge higher prices. I'll keep you guys posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousone85 View Post
    I will definitely keep these things in mind. I'm still going to go for $300+. Maybe even $500. Hey, if that means 1 guy in 6 months, oh well. To separate the wheat from the chaff just to see how I fair. I mean, I'm not starving out here or anything and I'd rather see a client or two than a ton for a cheaper rate. Camming and such is my main income and I do great there but I want to dip my toe into something else to fair on those days I don't feel like camming for 8+ hours.

    I get what you're saying but if I can live without a $50 price point, why can't the customer? I charge high anyway with cam (I know, different genre but still...) because I know that 35%-65% of my income is being taken away as well but the customer still has to pay for the inflation do they not?

    I just get the sense of "Well, I'm a bbw so there's no way the guys will pay for it." and I just don't don't believe that. When someone tells me it can't be done, I prove it to myself that it can. Period. I mean, isn't it a possibility that maybe the customers most girls get are just cheap customers? What happened to knowing your market and marketing to them? If Bob makes $100k a year he can afford a $300+ one hour incall/outcall. There may only be a few Bobs out there but I'd prefer him over Cheap Chester. Also, escorts also need to charge based on their own financial responsibilities. I live in an upscale area paying upscale rent ($1k) in my area so I'm sure you can see why I need at least the amount I ask for. Some of these girls only have to pay $400 a month for rent. I'm not that girl though. You better believe that if I'm paying for an upscale location, treating upscale men, and paying upscale bills that I'm going to charge higher prices. I'll keep you guys posted.
    Okay, suppose you get one $500 appointment in six months. To get that appointment, you blew $100 on web design, $400 on pro photos, $100/month on ads, and countless hours you could spend doing other things. (These are low end estimates, $500/hr requires fairly sophisticated marketing in most of the country.) So, over that six month period, you've actually lost $600, all because you're being stubborn about rates. At one $300 appointment per month, you're only coming out ahead by $700 after six months. At one $200 appointment per day, you're netting $34,900 over the same time frame. Going after really high rates in spite of what the market can bear is arrogant and foolish. This is a business and you have got to get past the whole, "I'm worth at least $xxx if she gets $yyy," thing - it's tough and many of us struggle with conflation of rates and earnings with self-esteem, but it's absolutely necessary. (Also a painful lesson that I'm still learning - I get it, I tried the HDH thing and partially got away with it, but it's not sustainable or lucrative.) Just because guys will pay well for it doesn't mean it's possible to get enough volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abarrett View Post
    Okay, suppose you get one $500 appointment in six months. To get that appointment, you blew $100 on web design, $400 on pro photos, $100/month on ads, and countless hours you could spend doing other things. (These are low end estimates, $500/hr requires fairly sophisticated marketing in most of the country.) So, over that six month period, you've actually lost $600, all because you're being stubborn about rates. At one $300 appointment per month, you're only coming out ahead by $700 after six months. At one $200 appointment per day, you're netting $34,900 over the same time frame. Going after really high rates in spite of what the market can bear is arrogant and foolish. This is a business and you have got to get past the whole, "I'm worth at least $xxx if she gets $yyy," thing - it's tough and many of us struggle with conflation of rates and earnings with self-esteem, but it's absolutely necessary. (Also a painful lesson that I'm still learning - I get it, I tried the HDH thing and partially got away with it, but it's not sustainable or lucrative.) Just because guys will pay well for it doesn't mean it's possible to get enough volume.
    Please understand that I was over exaggerating the $500 for 6 month remark. If I had to do that, it wouldn't be worth it. Trust me, I understand where you are coming from but again, my body, my rules and I'll charge accordingly. I'll keep you guys posted and let you know how I fair once I launch. Thanks again.

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    One thing I DO know, from my own experience, is that you WILL get clients. I'm not doubting that for a minute! I'm older, and when I started escorting again, after not doing it for 20+ years, I really didn't think I would do much, but I do!

    I think what abarret is trying to point out is that you CAN get really good clients, I'm low volume myself, but the rate at which they repeat may not be as often as if your rates were just a tad lower. My rent is 1k a month too, and I'm just living in a normal apt complex. The housing market, esp rentals are very high in my area.

    I offer nonrushed service, my hours tend to go over, but that's only if I'm enjoying myself, and we both have time. I give a really good body rub that may run 45 min in and of itself. Every appt and client is different, but I never rush, or make it appear that I have somewhere to go afterwards. Sometimes I do, but there's a way I can handle myself so it doesn't seem rushed.

    I'm at 200/incall and 200-225-250/outcall, depending on how far I have to drive. I live close to Philly and S Jersey, and if I ever decided to host incall, or even offer outcall (if I did offer outcall in one of those areas, I would still get a hotel for myself and use it as a "home base" so to speak and stay a cpl days) then I would go for the 250-300 range. The thing is, I stay busy enough at home, so I don't have to do that. I would like to one day, but I'm lucky in the sense that I don't have to travel outside of my area to make a living. I usually don't have to drive more that 15-20 min and I stay busy enough.

    Good Luck to you, and please keep us posted. I've wanted to raise my rates, but I'm just not sure how that would go with the economy the way it is. If you need any screening advice, please just ask! I haven't been here in a while due to some personal issues, but I miss SW, and plan to be on the boards more, like I used to be. I also used to post under another name, but changed it once I realized that if any of my clients googled my email address, my SW posts would surface LoL!

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    Since it is secondary income you can get by with just ad's and not have a website - that will decrease your expenses - and sadly it is not just bbw's who have lowered their rates - it is an epidemic of escorts undercharging due to current market prices - they have to eat so they fall into line with what the others are charging - as someone stated above - in some markets it is free or very low cost for a monthly ad in ERO's - cheaper than backpage in many places - in my city it fluctuates between free - 15.00 and a max of 25 per month - so in your scenario 150 for 6 months - if you cater to fetish you can find higher paying guys too but....... you get way more timewaster's contacting you with fetish -- more work to sort thru them ---

    if you work indy camming why not use your current clients as potential escort clients - you know they all dream of the cam girl hook up ----

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    I had no idea Eros ads ran specials like that lol. You are absolutely correct about the lowering of rates, and the fetish thing.

    I've lowered mine since I started, I was 225/in and 250/out and had no problems getting that at all. But then again, when I started, there may have been 10 or less ads on bp per day. Now there can easily be 100! And I'm sure I don't have to tell you the things some of those girls offer at what prices. It's sad, really, but yes, I was forced to lower my rates by $25. I still don't offer half hour appts, so I guess I should be thankful I can hold my own by sticking with hourly appts at hourly rates. I do lose an awful lot of people tho. Even though I'm not exactly where I'd like to be as far as my rates go, (I'd be thrilled if I cld just go back to my old rates, lol, which I have been contemplating, thats why I'm so interested in this topic) I am thankful I haven't had to go lower or offer 30 min rates. I need to be able to keep my self-esteem in check, and I can with where I am. Anything less though, I know I wouldn't enjoy what I do anymore.

    I also used to mention "fetish friendly" and omg, those guys need so much of your time, it's crazy! I mean, they may only want to text "hello" and have a short conversation with you a couple of times a week, but when you are carrying on several other conversations thru out the week, it's just too much! I use google voice, and what I do is log into my account on my laptop and text every body back at the same time. I'm carrying on 10 texts conversations at once, lol. I can't do that all the time, I do have one on one convos at times lol but it really is time consuming.

    I don't have a car right now, but as soon as I can get my act together and get one, I'm definitely going to check out Eros to post on. That market isn't far from me, but not having a car is killing my business right now, even locally.

    I think that the escorts overseas advertise on adultwork, and those girls cam and escort don't they? You can remind other girls of that as your ducking, LoL!

    Sorry to threadjack dear, but the conversation we are having is a peek into the real world of escorting right now. My take on it, and this I'm getting from the guys on the boards local to my area, is that men will pay more for somebody that's "visiting" as opposed to what's in their own backyard. Only you can determine your rates, but if you aren't going to travel, I'm not sure how well you will fare with the rates you are thinking of. abarrett mentioned she had HDH experience, so maybe she will come back and give us some insight. I'd love to hear it, as I'm interested too!

    **I'm not saying these things aren't possible, I'm looking at this as a small city enterprise as opposed to living in Chicago, L.A., Philly, NY, and not traveling, and just trying to establish a good client base that you can rely on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    Since it is secondary income you can get by with just ad's and not have a website - that will decrease your expenses - and sadly it is not just bbw's who have lowered their rates - it is an epidemic of escorts undercharging due to current market prices - they have to eat so they fall into line with what the others are charging - as someone stated above - in some markets it is free or very low cost for a monthly ad in ERO's - cheaper than backpage in many places - in my city it fluctuates between free - 15.00 and a max of 25 per month - so in your scenario 150 for 6 months - if you cater to fetish you can find higher paying guys too but....... you get way more timewaster's contacting you with fetish -- more work to sort thru them ---

    if you work indy camming why not use your current clients as potential escort clients - you know they all dream of the cam girl hook up ----

    ducks while other cam girls hate on me for saying this
    My only issue with hooking up with my cam custies is that I don't want my face associated with escorting. I knew a cammodel who got linked that way and I don't wish to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.adventure View Post
    I had no idea Eros ads ran specials like that lol. You are absolutely correct about the lowering of rates, and the fetish thing.

    I've lowered mine since I started, I was 225/in and 250/out and had no problems getting that at all. But then again, when I started, there may have been 10 or less ads on bp per day. Now there can easily be 100! And I'm sure I don't have to tell you the things some of those girls offer at what prices. It's sad, really, but yes, I was forced to lower my rates by $25. I still don't offer half hour appts, so I guess I should be thankful I can hold my own by sticking with hourly appts at hourly rates. I do lose an awful lot of people tho. Even though I'm not exactly where I'd like to be as far as my rates go, (I'd be thrilled if I cld just go back to my old rates, lol, which I have been contemplating, thats why I'm so interested in this topic) I am thankful I haven't had to go lower or offer 30 min rates. I need to be able to keep my self-esteem in check, and I can with where I am. Anything less though, I know I wouldn't enjoy what I do anymore.

    I also used to mention "fetish friendly" and omg, those guys need so much of your time, it's crazy! I mean, they may only want to text "hello" and have a short conversation with you a couple of times a week, but when you are carrying on several other conversations thru out the week, it's just too much! I use google voice, and what I do is log into my account on my laptop and text every body back at the same time. I'm carrying on 10 texts conversations at once, lol. I can't do that all the time, I do have one on one convos at times lol but it really is time consuming.

    I don't have a car right now, but as soon as I can get my act together and get one, I'm definitely going to check out Eros to post on. That market isn't far from me, but not having a car is killing my business right now, even locally.

    I think that the escorts overseas advertise on adultwork, and those girls cam and escort don't they? You can remind other girls of that as your ducking, LoL!

    Sorry to threadjack dear, but the conversation we are having is a peek into the real world of escorting right now. My take on it, and this I'm getting from the guys on the boards local to my area, is that men will pay more for somebody that's "visiting" as opposed to what's in their own backyard. Only you can determine your rates, but if you aren't going to travel, I'm not sure how well you will fare with the rates you are thinking of. abarrett mentioned she had HDH experience, so maybe she will come back and give us some insight. I'd love to hear it, as I'm interested too!

    **I'm not saying these things aren't possible, I'm looking at this as a small city enterprise as opposed to living in Chicago, L.A., Philly, NY, and not traveling, and just trying to establish a good client base that you can rely on.
    Yeah, bbs on AW sometimes cam and escort as well. They also have an amazing forum that they have support on. I've lurked on there and there are some helpful tips. I was fortunate enough to speak to an escort who's been in the business for 15 years and she's been helping me a great deal. She also assured me that I should go for the rate I want and just to make sure that I offer something "special" to sustain my rate. Guys will pay it, it just has to be worth it for them and I plan on offering a special service as well. I do plan on offering a list of fetishes (also open to new ones) but I will have special prices for those as well. I just need to focus on setting myself apart.

    I don't mind thread jacks bb, and I think I'll do quite all right with my rates. I have SW and my mentor and other bbs helping me out. I've never been one to not get what I want and advertisement and marketing is something I do very well. With enough research I can find my target market and go that route. I guess it's all a waiting game. I'll definitely come back and update as often as I can. Also, I'm not totally against traveling. Canada, and 3 major states are within just a few hours drive from me so I'm not too worried about it. I can travel if I need/have to.

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    Depends on your location too. I can run an eros ad for free in my area but in some it's insanely expensive.
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    You are quite determined!!!!I love it<3.In regards to screening I use a website builder called cuties tools,and they provide you with a light screening form or heavy screening form everything already pre-made you'd just have to verify all information the clients give you.
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    Please understand that I was over exaggerating the $500 for 6 month remark. If I had to do that, it wouldn't be worth it. Trust me, I understand where you are coming from but again, my body, my rules and I'll charge accordingly. I'll keep you guys posted and let you know how I fair once I launch. Thanks again.

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