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    Has anyone on here had a lawyer write a decease or desist letter to another dancer for slander?

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    Default Re: Consulting with a lawyer about another dancer!

    Any thoughts, experience or advice will be greatly appreciated.

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    No, I usually just laugh, unless it's claims you're doing something illegal. Let me guess, you're hotter and make more money?
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    I can just see the other girl laughing her ass off. *I* would laugh my ass off.
    No offense but that's kind of a prissy spoiled rich kid move to make. You're a big girl with enough cajones to be a stripper, I think you can fight your own battles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    No, I usually just laugh, unless it's claims you're doing something illegal. Let me guess, you're hotter and make more money?
    It's someone that ive known for years. But the lies and rumors are above and beyond ridiculous. And yes, sweet Julia she wants me gone from the club. But she wants everyone gone. And I know that if she gets a letter from a lawyer she will let me work in peace. I know a lot about her and I think that this is the only way to stop her. She was my friend for years. And vie seen her taunt other women non stop until they quit. I feel as though I cant let her get away with taunting me and spreading rumors about me in a relentless way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJulia View Post
    No, I usually just laugh, unless it's claims you're doing something illegal. Let me guess, you're hotter and make more money?
    And yes, one of the rumors is that I'm doing something illegal. She just wants me to quit. But the club is close to me and the money has been good lately so I don't want to quit because of her. But I also know she wont stop running her mouth about me too. Talking back to her etc just pisses her off more. And shes a huge woman who wants to get physical with others. I'm just completely upset about all of the lies and taunting. It reminds me of elementary school,.

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    Maybe it was a mistake to post on here about it in away because it's almost like you have to know her to know what you're dealing with. A friend of mine who has also been a victim of hers agrees that I need to speak to a lawyer about her. But I do appreciate your responses.

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    This is problematic on several levels.

    First, lacking 'hard' evidence, it's doubtful that you could actually convince a judge to issue such a 'cease and desist' order on a 'you say', 'she says' basis. Thus an attorney's letter threatening to seek such an order is likely to be met with laughter.

    Next, any claims of 'slander' are difficult to factually prove. If the dancer in question responds to your 'cease and desist' order threat, a local LE investigation of the 'slander' claim may intrude into YOUR personal life.

    Next, given the nature of strip club layouts, there will be unavoidable situations where you and the dancer in question will be in very close proximity ... without 3rd party witnesses. Think about the resulting possibilities.

    Lastly, if you actually tried to enforce a 'cease and desist' order', it means that YOU would be responsible for bringing local cops into the club. This could 'scare' away the very customers who are providing your earnings, not to mention making you rather unpopular with club management and other dancers.


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    I'm not saying you are wrong but it could be more trouble than it's worth. If I had a dime for every rumor spread about me I'd be as rich as Croesus.
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    She sounds like one of the girls at my club... this bitch will literally shove girls away from customers, talks shit about everyone, gives dirty looks, and tries her best to run everyone out of the place. She's a bully to customers and girls alike. Fighting only makes it worse; the other girl always ends up worked into a rage and this bitch stands there all calmly, like "who, me?" She's been suspended before because of her attitude. She tries this horseshit on everyone and didn't decide to respect me until I stole her regular out from under her (I don't recommend doing this, but it worked in that scenario). Apparently she needed to be outmaneuvered... not directly fought with. So maybe there's a different way to deal with this girl that you haven't thought of yet?

    If it pisses this girl off more to talk back to her, just let her run her mouth and ignore her. If she's doing this to customers, SHE will look bad. Customers don't like to hear about dancer drama (well, most of them don't); it's unattractive; and she's making herself look like an ass. Just ignore the shit out of her, don't antagonize her, spend as little time in areas like the DR as possible, etc.
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    If she is talking shit about you to your customers, tell them the truth - that she is a hating ass bitch - and then let it go. Karma will take care of her.

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    [email protected] sucks you have to deal with petty broads like that.

    Can you not talk to your managers? Only time I have to tell them is if I know a dancer keeps trying to f*ck with me for no reason and I need back up from beating the brakes of a b*tch therefore causing me to lose money if I take justice in my own hands.

    They would have to do something especially if others have complained about this same dancer. Good management can diffuse a situation especially if it has potential to negatively affect customers experience.

    I have also found the ratchet dancers end up getting their negative karma right back without you having to do anything. I had one bitch cutthroat me during my newbie stage and for a while felt like she owes me then one day I watched her get robbed by another dancer lolol! This hoe was shaking and looking all vulnerable cause someone stole from her and I had to leave the room because i felt no sympathy and she could probably see me smirking. Karma did my heaving lifting while I sat back and laughed.

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    Just tell the managers you absolutely cannot be around her and cannot work the same schedule as her.

    Normally I don't tell people to bend the law to get back at people like this, but if you feel it is warranted, find a way to let her know she needs to calm the hell down. Even if it's really mean. You know her well enough (I presume) to know how to do this.

    All the girls I've worked with who acted like this, eventually got beaten up at work. (Not like little catfights, like getting punched in the face and stuff like that.) This chick will eventually provoke the wrong dancer. Or have a mysterious fall. Or something like that. You follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    [email protected] sucks you have to deal with petty broads like that.

    Can you not talk to your managers? Only time I have to tell them is if I know a dancer keeps trying to f*ck with me for no reason and I need back up from beating the brakes of a b*tch therefore causing me to lose money if I take justice in my own hands.

    I have also found the ratchet dancers end up getting their negative karma right back without you having to do anything. Karma did my heaving lifting while I sat back and laughed.
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    Thanks for everyones advice!!! It really helps because the whole thing has gotten me really upset. I also didn't realize until Melonies post how extensive it will be to get the law involved. It's a shame that she's doing this to me because I had no idea that she was even mad at me until she freaked out on me on Friday. Sometimes these women at clubs just make our lives a nightmare in the club. Anyway, I spoke to the owner about her. Also, i told him about some of her other shenanigans that night. And he's pretty pissed off at her. The totally crazy thing is the stuff she's saying about me are totally fictitious and completely false. I never thought this chick was crazy and I've known her for ten years. But I'm starting to think she's unstable to just make up all of these fake stories about me. And freak out on me. I know she's taking a mix of diet pills, coke and drinking a lot lately. I'm sure that has something to do with it. I just don't want to deal with this drama. I guess I will try to hang in there a bit longer but not much longer. I'm thinking it's not worth all of this abuse. Oh, and she's kinda best friends with the owner which makes her think she also owns the place. It's kind of a sticky situation.

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    Lol!!! Funny miss.a.p1600!!!

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    Rereading all of the threads! And they're so great and calming me. And I'm getting a good laugh from them. Thanks again!

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    In the interest of accurate information, the police don't enforce a cease and desist, contrary to Melonie's previous post. A cease and desist is simply a fancy way of saying "stop that or I'll sue you." As matters of slander are heard in civil court, the police have nothing to do with it. Even if a judge issues an injunction against the other dancer, which is when a judge essentially says "She's right, knock it tge fuck off" and the other dancer doesn't, the police still won't get involved. You have to drag her back to court instead.


    Now, if you were to get a restraining order, that is something you'd call the police to enforce, but your cgances of getting one over shit talking are less than zero in most jurisdictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyla19 View Post
    I know she's taking a mix of diet pills, coke and drinking a lot lately.n.
    ^That's not a healthy cocktail-it's going to be hard to reason with someone in this state! Ignore her if you can, girls like this are usually looking for a reaction and if they don't get it they get bored and find a new target. If you can't wait out the storm, try another club (I know it's annoying and inconvenient) for a few weeks-by the time you come back she probably wont even notice you (a week in a SC feels like a month). I'm sorry you have to deal with this, this job can be stressful enough and it's so unnecessary idiot women make it that much harder on each other.
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    Are you friends with any local cops? If not, go make some new friends. Ask the people who would actually get paid to handle her ass once she escalates what you should do.

    I'm guessing their advice will be something like "keep to yourself and maintain a paper trail".

    Good luck.

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    ^ I'm not sure the police would even be that much help. The only ways they could intervene is if the other dancer became violent or there was an argument outsude of the club. It'd net a charge like misdemeanor assault, disturbing the peace or drunk and disorderly.

    Slander is one of the hardest torts to litigate and strip club shit talking is almost impossible. Ignoring it or moving to a different club are really the only ways to deal with this, unless risking being fired and having an assault charge for beating her ass are an acceptable risk.

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    Omg!!! Thanks for all of this advice. It's amazing! And all of you have helped me so much. I think it's so nice to vent and get support from others who GET what you're going through. First of all, a dancer friend of mine is speaking to a lawyer today for me just to get some info and advice for me. Secondly, I don't know any cops in the area but I don't think it's a bad idea to speak to one and see what they say. Third, Im not going to touch her. And she's not fat but she's like an amazon woman (about 6 foot and big boned). I'm not small but I'm sure that she could just throw me if we got into a physical fight. And I can't risk getting a police record. I think I'm going to try my best to ignore her. Even though it's not easy for me because I'm pretty feisty. And if that doesn't work I will take a break from the club. Thanks again ladies!!!

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    I think your plans are pretty solid. To be honest, there's a girl or two at every club that will fuck over other dancers. There's no way to avoid it. Eventually, she'll run afoul of the wrong person and get her ass handed to her. Or management will get so many complaints that they get rid of her.

    The most important thing you can do is to stay professional and level headed.

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    It's not worth it. Your best way to fix this is through direct confrontation, in public, loudly. Laugh at her publicly and get others laughing at her as well. Once she is publicly discredited, anything else she can say will be instantly disregarded.

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    I would love to hit her. But I think that she would win. And we both can't afford to get in legal trouble for different various reasons. I have a bad temper but I don't think I'm a good fighter if it came down to it. These posts have been great. And they're helping me destress and feel better. So i'm so grateful to you ladies!!! Ive decided today that I'm calling the owner tonight and I'm going to have a long talk about her. I know some things about her that she doesn't want him to know that she told me years ago. And I'm going to tell him everything. And if it backfires in my face so be it. You know, many shoot the messenger! But if it does backfire and the drama continues, I will quit. And just work somewhere else. Thanks again!

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