Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 83

Thread: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

  1. #1
    Veteran Member BarbieNYC's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2014
    Location
    check profile first
    Posts
    674
    Thanks
    1,919
    Thanked 2,528 Times in 599 Posts

    Default When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Decided to get a little side minimum wage job to help with burnout from dancing. I remember I was happiest when working part time as a server in an upscale restaurant to supplement my dancing.

    But after sifting through hours on Craigslist in New York, the majority of these ads are so laughable. Requiring photos for a hostess position, bartending, even receptionist. Requiring years of experience to work as a hostess? Not even a server. And forget about trying to be a barista.

    My favorite part is when they have a long list of requirements and only give the option to submit a resume. No phone number, not even the name of the restaurant. And then at the bottom the salary is minimum wage plus tips —_— I have job experience, but my resume is nothing stellar compared to what they want. Even the little corner store that just opened up told me to email a resume, after I told them I have experience, live in the building next door, and speak two languages. Like blah im not that desperate for a job.

    I guess im going to have to apply for a job the old fashioned way because I refuse to spend hours online applying to jobs that take an hour to apply to. Tomorrow im printing out my resumes, dressing nicrly, and marching my pretty little self toevery store in my rich ass neughborhood. Because who is gonna say no to a pretty blonde girl who speaks fluent Spanish, had open availability, and lives close by?

    Geez the Internet has really kept job applicsnts anonymous. Is this happening anywhere else or is it just new york, where everyone needs a job so employers can afford to be picky.

  2. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to BarbieNYC For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    God/dess Vyanka's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Cash-Stack-istan Island
    Posts
    14,704
    Thanks
    6,564
    Thanked 11,625 Times in 3,697 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    NYC is over populated with attractive women. Hence the pictures...my guess.

  4. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Vyanka For This Useful Post:


  5. #3
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    I would speculate that, while New York City is probably the 'worst' in this regard, employers are still clearly in the 'driver's seat' in most parts of the USA. My business acquaintances also point out that the potential costs they face to hire and subsequently fire an employee continue to increase. And this is particularly the case in states like New York, where new employees gain certain rights the minute they are put 'on the books', and where employees can potentially become eligible for ( employer funded ) unemployment checks after working for a new employer for as little as 13 weeks, and where DOL complaints / lawsuits can be brought against employers with relative ease.

    Thus prospective employers now put a fair amount of effort into screening prospective new employees ... even low pay rate employees. Where the job requires direct interaction with the public, personal appearance is now a major consideration ... thus the requirement for photos to be included with resumes. Where the job requires a particular 'semi-skill' ( i.e. mixing drinks, making lattes ), prospective employers would rather hire someone with documented direct experience as opposed to 'taking a chance' on training an inexperienced employee.

    And where ANY low pay rate 'service' job is concerned, prospective employers are wary of hiring an 'overqualified' employee ( i.e. college degree, specialized skills ) whose personal career plans don't include staying at a low pay rate 'service' job for one day more than necessary once a higher paying job in their 'chosen field' actually becomes available. Thus prospective employers want all info in regard to the applicant's education and past work experience, even though said education and past work experience may appear to have no direct bearing on the job being applied for.

    Another aspect of this is that employers also wish to screen new job applicants for other 'characteristics' which might expose the prospective employer to DOL complaints, lawsuits ( brought by the new employee or by existing employees ), negative publicity, damage to their business reputation, etc. Job applicants with a past work history involving the adult entertainment industry now arguably face new 'obstacles' in this regard. At this point, we don't really know how much of an effort is being put forth by prospective employers to screen applicants for low pay rate jobs for adult industry work history ... but facial recognition search technology applied to a resume photo versus posted internet images is certainly an available option for 'corporate' employers.

    The bottom line is that, despite the headline 5.6% ( or whatever ) official unemployment rate, in point of fact the 'real' number of unemployed Americans is at least double that percentage. To make matters worse, a high percentage of unemployed Americans are now willing to seek low pay rate 'service' jobs as opposed to 'holding out' for a job that is directly related to their field of study or past experience. Thus prospective employers offering low pay rate 'service' jobs have a gargantuan pool of prospective job applicants to choose from. And one basic pre-screening tool to narrow the field of job applicants is to require those applicants to spend an hour ( or whatever ) to fill out the required job application, to provide the required photos etc., in a basic effort by the prospective employer to see how 'serious' the applicants really are about the low pay rate job they are offering.

    As to the reason such job ads don't list a call number, my business acquaintances tell me that most 'corporate' employers do NOT want to spend time dealing with applicants who haven't been pre-screened and 'verified'. So the sequence of events for a 'corporate' employer seeking a new 'receptionist' today might go something like this ...

    - 100 people see the online ad

    - 70 people are 'serious' enough about the job to put forth the effort to complete the application, send the pictures, etc.

    - those 70 applicants are then pre-screened by a 3rd party service or a ( minimum wage ) staffer

    . - 30 applicants will be dismissed because their resume / application shows they are clearly 'overqualified', leaving 40
    . - another 20 applicants will be dismissed based on their personal appearance, leaving 20

    - those 20 remaining pre-screened applicants will then be fully screened ( probably by a 3rd party service ) for criminal record, legal work status, social media searches, potential facial recognition searches versus internet images, etc., perhaps leaving 10

    - those 10 surviving fully screened applicant resumes etc. will then be passed on to the local HR person, who will perhaps reject another 4 arbitrarily, thus actually calling only 6 of the original 100 interested persons to arrange a face to face interview.


    A 'side note' point which can arguably be gleaned from this is that the 'barriers to entry' for many low pay rate 'service' jobs with major corporations are actually higher than the 'barriers to entry' for dancing, camming, escorting etc. these days. This fact, of course, only encourages more girls who are 'overqualified' for low pay rate 'service' jobs, more girls who have a documented adult industry work history, more girls who have minor criminal records etc. to gravitate toward adult entertainment industry work.
    Last edited by Melonie; 04-03-2015 at 06:28 AM.

  6. #4
    Featured Member Starling's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,511
    Thanks
    2,450
    Thanked 2,081 Times in 874 Posts
    My Mood
    Pensive

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    This is a NYC thing.

    I actually left NYC for this reason. If I wanted any hope to get job experience in my field, without waiting 1 or 2 YEARS to get that first job, I had to leave.

    Even for professionals it is hard to get a job and it's an employer's market. Employers can be picky.

    Too many people, desired place to live: lots of competition.

    For example I have experience in my job field now. I called some companies up in Queens and Long Island and told them about myself and that I was interested in working with them. Some of them said they don't do direct hires anymore and only hire through agencies since it's cheaper labor for them.

    Working through an agency in NYC I would be paid less...the complete opposite of where I live in the middle of nowhere. And get this...if I were working with a similar agency out here, not only would I be paid more, I would be paid about the same rate as I would working through the same kind of agency in higher-cost-of-living NYC.

    Pretty sure at this rate McDonalds in NYC will require applicants to have a bachelor's degree MINIMUM to work flipping burgers.

  7. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Starling For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    Featured Member Tourdefranzia's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Portland, OR
    Posts
    1,445
    Thanks
    649
    Thanked 3,393 Times in 970 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Don't waste your time applying for anything online until you've networked with the manager first. Craigslist is a black hole of bullshit for hiring managers as well as job seekers. After you've made contact with the management of the companies you want to work for, go ahead and apply, but let them know your resume has been submitted almost immediately.

    The internet was supposed to make looking for a job easier, but it is the same as it ever was. It's who you know, not what you know. (I worked in human resources in 2012. My S.O. is a hiring manager at his job, and hates craigslist applicants and basically believes that craigslist is a last resort.)

  9. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Tourdefranzia For This Useful Post:


  10. #6
    Veteran Member DreamsInDigital's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    374
    Thanks
    1,084
    Thanked 528 Times in 203 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Nope, not just an NYC thing. Supply of potential employees > amount of available jobs, therefore employers these days can pretty much ask for whatever qualifications they want (even if they're ridiculous) and still have a ton of applicants to choose from.

    I agree with the sentiment that CraigsList is pretty much a waste of time. I once was the manager of a store where I had to find and hire the entire staff myself. So, I put an ad on CraigsList. I think I got probably 100+ applications within the space of two days. It got to be so overwhelming that I stopped even looking at resumes and started to screen by more arbitrary factors, such as the professionalism of their e-mail address or their use of grammar and punctuation. Did the job have any part that involved written or typed correspondence? Nope, not at all. Oh, and it was a small store, so out of those 100+ applicants, I only got to choose about 6. Not great odds for an applicant.

    Tourdefranzia got it right when she said, "It's not what you know, it's who you know." Or more accurately......it's more about how much the hiring manager likes you vs. your actual qualifications. Visiting the businesses in person and making the manager like you is probably the best (and smartest) thing to do. When it comes time to hire someone, having left a positive in-person impression on your potential employer should put you among the top candidates, regardless of your level of experience.

  11. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to DreamsInDigital For This Useful Post:


  12. #7
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Tourdefranzia got it right when she said, "It's not what you know, it's who you know." Or more accurately......it's more about how much the hiring manager likes you vs. your actual qualifications. Visiting the businesses in person and making the manager like you is probably the best (and smartest) thing to do. When it comes time to hire someone, having left a positive in-person impression on your potential employer should put you among the top candidates, regardless of your level of experience.
    This is absolutely true. However, it is becoming increasingly less possible, at least where major corporations are concerned.

    As Starling alluded to, the associated costs and risks of hiring ( and subsequently having to fire, or being sued by ) a new employee ... even a low pay rate employee ... is pushing major corporations to use temp agencies to avoid ( some of ) these potential costs and risks. Beyond 'subcontracted' agency workers, major corporations are now 'covering their asses' by performing elevated levels of screening / background checks before calling in applicants for interviews for actual company jobs. Thus the ability to walk in off the street, being allowed 'face time' with the ( local ) manager, and the ( local ) manager actually having the authority to offer you a job as a company employee, is becoming increasingly rare ... at least where major corporations are concerned.


    Pretty sure at this rate McDonalds in NYC will require applicants to have a bachelor's degree MINIMUM to work flipping burgers
    Possibly true in NYC, since NYC has so many unemployed college graduates, and since the generous social welfare benefits available arguably make it 'uneconomical' for less educated people to accept a near minimum wage job and sacrificing eligibility for subsidized rent, subsidized utilities, etc. But in other areas, employers generally look upon college graduates applying for near minimum wage jobs as an 'employee turnover' problem waiting to happen.

  13. #8
    Featured Member Starling's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,511
    Thanks
    2,450
    Thanked 2,081 Times in 874 Posts
    My Mood
    Pensive

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    This is absolutely true. However, it is becoming increasingly less possible, at least where major corporations are concerned.
    This is true. I have walked in directly at a few different places to apply in person (I'm talking large companies) and they said that I can only do it through the online application system. Even at my current company, I worked at a sister location and wanted to get a job there and there was an opening. Even though the bosses know me, HR told me to apply to online posting anyway because that's the way it gets to the bosses.

    However, there are still places that do the old way where you go apply in person and I've gotten interviews that way (one on the spot). It's my preferred method. Unfortunately it's hit or miss who takes paper applications and who will tell you to scram and apply through their website, and a lot of companies in NYC that I was interested used to let people do this, but now they do hiring through their online system.

    They're out there and you have to know where to look sometimes, just keep trying.

  14. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Starling For This Useful Post:


  15. #9
    Banned
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    11,037
    Thanks
    1,891
    Thanked 5,124 Times in 3,086 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    It goes on everywhere. I've been looking for a part time waitressing job and the requirements are ridiculous. One place rejected me because my experience is 10 years old, another because I have a Master's degree. Yes it is illegal to hire based on things like age but many places do that.

  16. #10
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Aug 2013
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    193
    Thanked 359 Times in 174 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    The Craigslist ads requiring photos sounds like someone is hunting for fresh meat to me.

  17. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to sarah101 For This Useful Post:


  18. #11
    God/dess SnuffleUffleGrass's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2009
    Location
    HearstCastle, Rosebud
    Posts
    8,848
    Thanks
    22,676
    Thanked 17,513 Times in 6,696 Posts
    My Mood
    Angelic

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by sarah101 View Post
    The Craigslist ads requiring photos sounds like someone is hunting for fresh meat to me.
    I agree.

    Also some jobs HAVE to screen hard. My current job did a background check b/c liability issues are sooo....possible with workers that they look for possible lawsuit makers or theft threats.

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to SnuffleUffleGrass For This Useful Post:


  20. #12
    God/dess ScarletKitten's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Hyperspace
    Posts
    2,208
    Thanks
    3,162
    Thanked 6,709 Times in 1,895 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Not to mention all the ridiculous drug tests. I'm not sure if NYC drug tests, but where I live, it's rampant. Try to apply to work at Walmart or Taco Bell, and they want you to piss in a cup. Those piss tests should be ILLEGAL! They are so invasive. Now I'm going off on my own rant, sorry.

    I wish I could get a part-time vanilla job, but I find the bullshit that comes along with it just isn't worth it.
    "Dancing tables, making deals with devils like a drunk beauty queen"

  21. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to ScarletKitten For This Useful Post:


  22. #13
    God/dess
    Joined
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    7,964
    Thanks
    6,155
    Thanked 10,183 Times in 4,602 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    I had to do that once. My only concern was a false positive.

  23. #14
    God/dess
    Joined
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    7,964
    Thanks
    6,155
    Thanked 10,183 Times in 4,602 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by BarbieNYC View Post

    I guess im going to have to apply for a job the old fashioned way because I refuse to spend hours online applying to jobs that take an hour to apply to. Tomorrow im printing out my resumes, dressing nicrly, and marching my pretty little self toevery store in my rich ass neughborhood. Because who is gonna say no to a pretty blonde girl who speaks fluent Spanish, had open availability, and lives close by?
    I think this is your best bet for the type of work you're looking for. With your qualifications, I think you'll find something. Good luck!

  24. #15
    Banned
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    11,037
    Thanks
    1,891
    Thanked 5,124 Times in 3,086 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    Not to mention all the ridiculous drug tests. I'm not sure if NYC drug tests, but where I live, it's rampant. Try to apply to work at Walmart or Taco Bell, and they want you to piss in a cup. Those piss tests should be ILLEGAL! They are so invasive. Now I'm going off on my own rant, sorry.

    I wish I could get a part-time vanilla job, but I find the bullshit that comes along with it just isn't worth it.
    I agree. I don't do drugs but feel it's an invasion of employers. I get it for things like driving but a cashier? A few years ago a temp agency called me and told me I'd have to take a drug test and pay for it. Turned it down.

  25. #16
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    I get it for things like driving but a cashier? A few years ago a temp agency called me and told me I'd have to take a drug test and pay for it.
    My business acquaintances tell me that drug test requirements are typically imposed by corporate attorneys and insurance underwriters, and are intended to minimize ...

    - an elevated probability of possible 'accidents' at work which could expose the employer to lawsuits / settlements as well as elevated insurance costs

    - the possibility that a ( future ) 'drug' problem could incentivize an employee to steal from / cheat the employer

    - possible damage to the employer's business reputation should a drug using employee be busted or otherwise connected to a situation generating adverse publicity.

    - possible 'negligent hiring' liability on the part of the employer in states which consider both working hours and after-hours drug use by employees to be 'work related misconduct'

    From

    (snip)employers are seen as directing the behavior of their employees and accordingly, must share in the good as well as the bad results of that behavior. By the same token that an employer is legally entitled to the rewards of an employee's labor (profit), an employer also has the legal liability if that same behavior results in harm.

    Second, when someone is injured or harmed and needs to be compensated, who is the most likely to pay: the employee or the employer? Fair or not, the legal system is interested in making the victim whole, and assigning liability to the employer rather than the employee has the best chance of meeting that goal.(snip)


    Those piss tests should be ILLEGAL! They are so invasive
    I don't do drugs but feel it's an invasion of employers
    I'm told that the 'invasion of privacy' argument has already been raised ... resulting in a present doctrine that if the employer can be held ( partially ) responsible for, and/or must bear ( a portion of ) the costs resulting from, actions taken by employees outside the employer's place of business, then the employer has a 'right to know'. I'm told this doctrine actually got started as a result of anti-tobacco smoking policies / increased employer health care costs for tobacco smoking employees, which was then transferrable to employee drug use ... a.k.a. 'slippery slope'.
    Last edited by Melonie; 04-04-2015 at 02:15 AM.

  26. #17
    Senior Member salzsieder67's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2014
    Location
    New England (at the moment)
    Posts
    176
    Thanks
    176
    Thanked 220 Times in 106 Posts
    My Mood
    Brooding

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    It's credentials inflation that is happening across all career fields, not just minimum wage. Jobs that 20 years ago you could get with a high school diploma now either require a certification, associates degree, or a bachelors degree. Bachelor degrees in some cases will not even get you an entry level position in some places anymore. Add to that minimum wage hikes, like in Seattle where $15/hour will be required by 2018, many companies feel justified in upping requirements for that kind of a salary.

  27. #18
    Banned
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    11,037
    Thanks
    1,891
    Thanked 5,124 Times in 3,086 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Don't get me started on that. I do not feel these jobs should have to pay what a typical entry level job should. First, these are unskilled jobs and second they were never intended to raise a family on. Besides almost everyone I've seen at jobs like McDonald's were horrible workers, they shouldn't make that much.

    Melonie I've heard those too and have mixed feelings. I've taken drug tests, my big issue was me having to pay, especially since I didn't even have the job. The jobs I did have that required it paid for it.

  28. #19
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    I've taken drug tests, my big issue was me having to pay, especially since I didn't even have the job. The jobs I did have that required it paid for it.
    Understood. However, if a cheap-ass temp agency / company can get away with passing the costs of drug testing onto job applicants, they're going to continue to do so as long as some number of applicants are willing to pay that cost ! Just one more testimonial to how 'flooded' the unskilled / semi-skilled labor market has become.


    Add to that minimum wage hikes, like in Seattle where $15/hour will be required by 2018, many companies feel justified in upping requirements for that kind of a salary.
    I hesitated to respond to this point at all ... and will try to be extremely careful in my wording to avoid raising political issues.

    However, for an economic fact, the more an employee must be paid, the less consequential the ( fixed ) costs to a prospective employer to thoroughly screen would-be employees, and the more expensive the employer's imputed costs become to fire and replace a 'bad' employee who was hired as a result of minimal screening. Thus rising minimum wages will only serve to increase employer scrutiny regarding the 'credentials' of job applicants, as well as increasing the thoroughness of background / employment history checks.

    Also, from a math / financial standpoint, between a $15 per hour ( or whatever ) mandatory minimum wage ( plus additional proportionate employer social security, disability, unemployment etc. costs ), and a near zero interest rate being charged on borrowed money, MacDonalds-esque companies will be able to justify increased capital investment in such equipment as ...





    as well as similar possibilities in related industries ...





    ... with a probable end result being one $15 per hour worker remaining for every two former $8 an hour workers. And this of course will only add more unemployed potential job applicants to an expanding 'unskilled' labor pool which will, in turn, be pursuing a shrinking number of remaining 'unskilled' jobs, thus making 'unskilled' job applicant 'credentials', 'clean' backgrounds and job histories etc., even more important to prospective employers in the future. Thus your speculation is probably on track, that the MacDonalds-esque companies will begin to target college graduates who majored in 'unmarketable' fields for their $15 per hour ( or whatever ) future minimum wage jobs !!!

    From a logical standpoint, this unfortunately also strongly implies that an increasing number of future Americans who do not have college degrees, who have 'questionable' backgrounds and/or job histories, etc. may wind up being part of a growing pool of the 'structurally unemployed'. I'll refrain from further comment, other than to point out that 'structurally unemployed' people do not have much 'extra' money available to spend in strip clubs, on paid webcam, etc.
    Last edited by Melonie; 04-04-2015 at 04:36 PM.

  29. #20
    God/dess Jay12's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Hill country.
    Posts
    2,926
    Thanks
    1,653
    Thanked 1,896 Times in 955 Posts
    My Mood
    Stressed

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Don't get me started on that. I do not feel these jobs should have to pay what a typical entry level job should. First, these are unskilled jobs and second they were never intended to raise a family on. Besides almost everyone I've seen at jobs like McDonald's were horrible workers, they shouldn't make that much.
    The reason why "minimum wage" was established in the first place was exactly to provide the minimum standard of living for a family. However, when such law was passed the service sector barely existed the way it exists today.


    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post

    From a logical standpoint, this unfortunately also strongly implies that an increasing number of future Americans who do not have college degrees, who have 'questionable' backgrounds and/or job histories, etc. may wind up being part of a growing pool of the 'structurally unemployed'. I'll refrain from further comment, other than to point out that 'structurally unemployed' people do not have much 'extra' money available to spend in strip clubs, on paid webcam, etc.
    "Macro-economics is my favorite thing/Macro-economics is my favorite thing/Macro-economics is my favorite thing/Macro-economics is my favorite thing". Sing the "macro" song to this tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-u2SC5Dmc
    Last edited by Jay12; 04-05-2015 at 03:27 PM. Reason: edit to make a joke





  30. #21
    Banned
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    11,037
    Thanks
    1,891
    Thanked 5,124 Times in 3,086 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    The reason why "minimum wage" was established in the first place was exactly to provide the minimum standard of living for a family. However, when such law was passed the service sector barely existed the way it exists today.
    These jobs were never intended to raise families. They are entry level jobs for people to do while bettering themselves. Granted now we have people working them because many jobs went overseas but traditionally they were for teens.

  31. #22
    God/dess Jay12's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Hill country.
    Posts
    2,926
    Thanks
    1,653
    Thanked 1,896 Times in 955 Posts
    My Mood
    Stressed

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    These jobs were never intended to raise families. They are entry level jobs for people to do while bettering themselves. Granted now we have people working them because many jobs went overseas but traditionally they were for teens.
    Maybe the JOBS themselves weren't, but the logic behind the "minimum wage" was intended to provide a minimum standard of living for a family. That act should had included a provision that the minimum wage should had been adjusted to reflect current inflation, but that did not happen.


    This opinion piece from the NYT presents quotes from when FDR enacted the minimum wage laws:
    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/...-minimum-wage/

    For verification:
    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Frankl...rds_.281938.29
    Last edited by Jay12; 04-05-2015 at 03:42 PM.





  32. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Jay12 For This Useful Post:


  33. #23
    Veteran Member BarbieNYC's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2014
    Location
    check profile first
    Posts
    674
    Thanks
    1,919
    Thanked 2,528 Times in 599 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    Got offered a bartending job at a strip club with no bartending experience whatsoever. Lol I just said I speak spanish/english fluently. Too bad the commute would be too much for me, even with taxis. It's only an hr by car. Sucks as I could've really used the bartending experience. Oh well time to find something else.

  34. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to BarbieNYC For This Useful Post:


  35. #24
    Banned Melonie's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2002
    Location
    way south of the border
    Posts
    25,932
    Thanks
    612
    Thanked 10,563 Times in 4,646 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    The reason why "minimum wage" was established in the first place was exactly to provide the minimum standard of living for a family. However, when such law was passed the service sector barely existed the way it exists today.
    Again trying to avoid political overtones, but other sources would point out that one of the TRUE reasons the 'minimum wage' was established during the onset and 1938 resurgence of the 'great depression' was to remove the economic advantage 'southern' US states held regarding jobs creation / new businesses, because of their lower costs of living - thus lower unskilled worker pay rates - available in those 'southern' states. There was also equal concern that 'southern' laborers migrating ( or being brought by employers ) to 'northern' states were undermining the existing pay rates of 'northern' workers. Establishing a minimum wage removed such financial incentives.

    I'll refrain from commenting further, other than to point out that the initial establishment of a minimum wage had little to do with improving the standard of living of America's 'poorest' workers, and much more to do with shielding higher paid 'northern' state workers from lower priced competition !!!

  36. #25
    Featured Member Tourdefranzia's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Portland, OR
    Posts
    1,445
    Thanks
    649
    Thanked 3,393 Times in 970 Posts

    Default Re: When the heck did minimum wage jobs get such ridiculous requirements?

    When searching for work, first talk to everyone you already know and try to get jobs through friends and family. If you've exhausted those avenues, then look into job fairs and networking events in your area. You'll see them crop up at the end of school term, just set a google alert for job fair or hiring fair for your area, you don't even have to think about it, the alert will show up in your inbox. Job fairs are a good place to network and get an impression of the company you wish to work for.

    I got my HR job by applying at a staffing agency for a temporary job. I got hired by the staffing agency directly. My job was staffing specialist, and I had to match employees to jobs, both temporary and permanent. I hate sitting at a desk all day, so I quit after 6 months, but it was a great education about how to get the job you want. A lot of people don't really want jobs, but go through the motions to keep their Unemployment checks coming in, or to placate an angry spouse.

    Being serious about getting a job is going to go a long way toward impressing a hiring manager.

  37. The Following User Says Thank You to Tourdefranzia For This Useful Post:


Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Minimum Wage
    By Zinaida in forum Dollar Den
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 08-01-2011, 06:57 AM
  2. minimum pc requirements for running mfc
    By lagirl in forum Other Work
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 04-24-2011, 06:00 PM
  3. minimum wage really ??!#@[email protected]
    By minniesoporno in forum Other Work
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 11-11-2010, 08:20 PM
  4. Minimum wage going down!
    By Deogol in forum Dollar Den
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-31-2009, 04:37 PM
  5. Minimum wage?
    By ambellina in forum Dollar Den
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 05-14-2006, 02:44 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •