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    Hi everyone!

    I'm a former cam-girl turned startup entrepreneur. I've actually been able to leverage some of the money I made camming to start my business.

    My team and I have created a new dating app that we think will be a big hit, especially for women, who historically don't have a great experience with dating apps and sites. The app is based on "Social Penetration Theory," which is the idea that intimacy and trust is built when two people mutually self-disclose increasingly intimate/personal information over time. Users get to know each other by exchanging answers to interesting/fascinating questions. We get around the problem of spam/abusive messaging by giving users the ability to set thresholds for who can chat with them directly. These thresholds allow users to set a specific number of question/answer exchanges that must happen before live chatting is enabled.

    The end result is that users (and especially women) get a much better, more interesting, and more fun dating experience, without the spam/abuse/monotony of most dating sites.

    We will be launching the app shortly, and I'm looking to recruit about 20 popular cam girls to help me promote the app.

    What I'm asking you to do.
    1. Set up a profile on the app, and use the app as a regular user would
    2. Promote your profile when you cam (I can provide links that will take users to your specific profile after they install the app on their phone)

    I can per $1 per app install (the app is free)

    The idea here is that you all probably have a huge number of guys who would love a chance to date you, or interact with you outside of the cam sites. You can make a lot of money by leveraging this desire. Encouraging guys to download the app, and find you and interact with you on the app will yield high conversion rates. I think this would be particularly effective on some of the cam sites with large audiences, but that are more difficult to monotize (like Cam4).

    If you are interested, Please PM me, or email me at [email protected]

    Thanks so much, and I would be happy to answer any questions at all.

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    Ummmm camming and dating are TWO different thing... I'm confused, is this like OKC, or a camsite? Or is this a SD hookup site?

    Also, as a former camgirl, you should know most camsites do not allow you to promote offsite content.





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    Will it be similar to Christian Mingle?
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    This is a legitimate dating app. Not a hookup app, and not a cam site/app.

    You are right that they definitely are two different things, but many of your fans would be very interested in the prospect of potentially dating you (or at least the idea of it), meaning you could very likely convert lots of them to at least installing the app.

    I'm looking for camgirls who will be discreet with promoting it on sites that restrict obvious/overt promotion of offsite content. Basically all I am looking for you to do is say that you have a dating profile on my app, and provide a link to your profile. The link you provide will send them to download the app on their phone, which after they install, will land them on your profile on the app.

    We will track the referrals and pay you per install.

    You really wouldn't be promoting anything overtly at all, simply saying that you belong to a new dating app, and that you can be found there. Similar to telling people about your twitter or instagram accounts.

    Does that make more sense?

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    Definitely nothing like ChristianMingle. Fuck that site and its "god told me you should sign up"

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    So basically you want us to trick our customers into thinking we are available for dating so they can download your app? That's fucking shady, and will do a lot of harm. Also camgirls usually like to keep their location a secret. Any former cammodel would understand this.


    Also how do you plan on paying anyone who decides to take you up on this?
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    That would be my worst nightmare!

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    You are right that they definitely are two different things, but many of your fans would be very interested in the prospect of potentially dating you (or at least the idea of it), meaning you could very likely convert lots of them to at least installing the app.
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    First, that's kinda risking our job/money (banned, suspended) on certain sites, so I don't know who'd be willing to do this.

    Second, I personally don't even like custies having the faintest idea they can date me/meet me while I'm working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvc444 View Post
    Hi everyone!

    I'm a former cam-girl turned startup entrepreneur. I've actually been able to leverage some of the money I made camming to start my business.

    My team and I have created a new dating app that we think will be a big hit, especially for women, who historically don't have a great experience with dating apps and sites. The app is based on "Social Penetration Theory," which is the idea that intimacy and trust is built when two people mutually self-disclose increasingly intimate/personal information over time. Users get to know each other by exchanging answers to interesting/fascinating questions. We get around the problem of spam/abusive messaging by giving users the ability to set thresholds for who can chat with them directly. These thresholds allow users to set a specific number of question/answer exchanges that must happen before live chatting is enabled.

    The end result is that users (and especially women) get a much better, more interesting, and more fun dating experience, without the spam/abuse/monotony of most dating sites.

    We will be launching the app shortly, and I'm looking to recruit about 20 popular cam girls to help me promote the app.

    What I'm asking you to do.
    1. Set up a profile on the app, and use the app as a regular user would
    2. Promote your profile when you cam (I can provide links that will take users to your specific profile after they install the app on their phone)

    I can per $1 per app install (the app is free)

    The idea here is that you all probably have a huge number of guys who would love a chance to date you, or interact with you outside of the cam sites. You can make a lot of money by leveraging this desire. Encouraging guys to download the app, and find you and interact with you on the app will yield high conversion rates.
    I think this would be particularly effective on some of the cam sites with large audiences, but that are more difficult to monotize (like Cam4).

    If you are interested, Please PM me, or email me at [email protected]

    Thanks so much, and I would be happy to answer any questions at all.
    While I find your idea interesting, you are essential asking camgirls to interact with people on an app for a flat rate of $1. It really wouldn't be worth my while since I can sell my Skype ID or Google Phone or other things like that for way more then $1 without the hassle of convincing guys to download an app.
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    I'm concerned with a few things. I kind of get annoyed when outsiders (excamgirl or not) come to us asking to help them launch something but always mention "top" cammodels. AKA we don't have any traffic and we want you to bring it to us or regular cammodel aren't good enough to try our app out.

    Here's what's going through my mind right now... DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!

    Most of us don't want to disclose that we are camgirls on a dating site. IE: Creeps
    Most of us don't want our customers knowing/wanting to date us outside of cam

    The app seems a bit complicated with the questions. Most of us base our decisions on attraction first (which is why tinder is so popular, we can just swipe to the left). Any guy can speak a good game and pass all of the question requirements but still be a weirdo/stalker who now knows what city you live in now.

    Most of us work on big sites that don't allow us to promote anything. Everything would have to be promoted using social media, but again, the fact that they now have our info could rile up stalkers just hoping to get a date and fuck you because you're a cammodel.

    I just can't see a popular model with 30k followers telling guys to check out an app to date her. She can just set up a date and they'd bid for her and she'd make a killing but again, she'd probably be stalked and most of us don't want that.

    The theory is a bit confusing for me because it seems like the only ones disclosing anything would be us. Since we're bringing in our own traffic, the guys will already know we're cammodels. What else is there to intimately disclose? It seems all of the natural disclosure will come, well, naturally over a date or while dating.

    I think if the questions were ironed out a bit and this was launched to regular daters this could be a possibility. However, a lot of other sites already beat you to the punch with compatibility matching. AKA eharmony. I just have this feeling of having to look over ones shoulder as a cammodel.

    I have an even better idea for you. Why not just build an app for adult industry workers and their admirers? Where verification is needed and all the secrets are on the table. A lot of men wouldn't dare date a adult worker but there are some who will. Why not open the door to make that happen? The hardest problem I have with dating is usually being upfront about what I do for work. I notice that when I tell guys this, they assume I want to fuck them or that I'm some oversexed female. I do have a guy I'm chatting with who accepts my work but he used to be my customer so you know how that works. It's the whole "I'm not paying you anymore but I want all of your time anyway" type of deal.

    Most of us just want a significant other who accepts our work and to live happily ever after. Not look over our shoulders or go on a date with a guy who answered all our questions but just wants the chance to fuck the cammodel he's been stalking for 4 years. Just something to think about.

    All in all I think this would be a waste of time (and money) for you and your team and can also deal with future legal issues concerning models who were stalked, injured, raped, and or killed due to your app. 99.9% of cammodels do not want their customers to date them or know where they live. A man who pays to see you remove your clothes for him usually only has one thing in mind when he meets you in person.




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    That would be my worst nightmare!
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    Why would anyone want to date these men.?

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    Why can't people pay for their own marketing instead of piggy backing on ours?





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    Quote Originally Posted by emma383 View Post
    Why would anyone want to date these men.?
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    I'm just going to come out and say it. MOST of us adult workers are in it for the MOOLAH. I really wish people would stop pretending that we actually give a flying fuck about our customers. Yeah, there are some that slide in through the cracks but most of us wouldn't do shit for free. If there was no money involved the pool of sex workers would be extremely small. There's nothing wrong with exhibitionism and a woman who is open about her sexuality but again, most of us wouldn't do this without that COIN. We don't REALLY want to date/fuck you, we just want your money. You don't really want to date/pay us, you just want to fuck us. But we all do shit to get what we really want out of it. Us, money, them, sex (in any form). Just create a dang dating app for sex workers with total disclosure. Simple. You either do it or I will, lol.




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    Obviously OP doesn't understand why most strippers prefer to get walked to their cars after a shift. O.o #beacuasestalkes




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    Thanks for all the helpful replies. Maybe I was wrong to think this might be a good fit. A few things that might make a difference.

    1. You certainly don't need to use your real name etc. in the app. You don't need to disclose anything if you don't want to. As a user yourself, you have complete control over who gets to interact with you.

    The question/answer exchange system works like this.

    1. You answer questions (from a question database) you find compelling interesting. For example it could be something like "If the world was going to end in 24 hours, what would you do with your last day"
    2. Potential daters (guys you bring into the app) see that you have answered this question (and any others you have answered) but don't see the actual answer itself.
    3. In order to see your answer to that question, they must also answer it.
    4. Once they answer the question. You receive a notification that they have answered the question, and you then decide whether or not you want to release your answer back to them. If you allow it, they are notified and then able to see your answer.
    5. Guys can chat with you directly once you have exchanged a set number of question/answers with that person (decided by you).

    You really have full control over the questions you ask/answer and what the guys who are interested in you answer. You never disclose anything you don't want to.

    Its more of a discovery game that can potentially (if you want it to) lead to deeper relationships over time.

    I definitely don't want to endanger any of your accounts, and though that the promotion of it could/should be done in a way where you simply say you have a profile here. Similar to saying you have a twitter or instagram. As far as I know, it isnt usually against TOS to mention social profiles, though I could certainly be wrong since its been over a year since I last cammed.

    Thank you all again for the feedback, and my apologies if I was simply wrong in thinking this might be a good way for you all to earn a bit of extra cash in a unique way.

    -Kristin

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    Also, the idea isnt that you would want to date them, just that you could leverage their desire to date you to make money. I'm not suggesting any camgirl would actually want to use this to find dates.

    If you want to start a dating app for cam workers, go for it, that's not my goal here at all, just that you all could probably make good money because there are so many guys who would jump at the chance (even if it was extremely remote) and dating you.

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    I'm certainly not trying to take advantage of anyone here, and definitely don't want something for nothing. Thank you all for the replies. It looks like I was totally off base in thinking this might be a good way for you to make some quick money. I understand that you want to keep your anonymity, and you definitely could, you would simply be getting paid to bring guys into a different venue where they could interact with you in a different way. Thanks again for all the feedback, and I'm very sorry for wasting your time :/

    -Kristin

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvc444 View Post
    Thanks for all the helpful replies. Maybe I was wrong to think this might be a good fit. A few things that might make a difference.

    1. You certainly don't need to use your real name etc. in the app. You don't need to disclose anything if you don't want to. As a user yourself, you have complete control over who gets to interact with you.

    The question/answer exchange system works like this.

    1. You answer questions (from a question database) you find compelling interesting. For example it could be something like "If the world was going to end in 24 hours, what would you do with your last day"
    2. Potential daters (guys you bring into the app) see that you have answered this question (and any others you have answered) but don't see the actual answer itself.
    3. In order to see your answer to that question, they must also answer it.
    4. Once they answer the question. You receive a notification that they have answered the question, and you then decide whether or not you want to release your answer back to them. If you allow it, they are notified and then able to see your answer.
    5. Guys can chat with you directly once you have exchanged a set number of question/answers with that person (decided by you).

    You really have full control over the questions you ask/answer and what the guys who are interested in you answer. You never disclose anything you don't want to.

    Its more of a discovery game that can potentially (if you want it to) lead to deeper relationships over time.

    I definitely don't want to endanger any of your accounts, and though that the promotion of it could/should be done in a way where you simply say you have a profile here. Similar to saying you have a twitter or instagram. As far as I know, it isnt usually against TOS to mention social profiles, though I could certainly be wrong since its been over a year since I last cammed.

    Thank you all again for the feedback, and my apologies if I was simply wrong in thinking this might be a good way for you all to earn a bit of extra cash in a unique way.

    -Kristin
    1. Location. Most of us don't want to disclose our location to a customer. How else are you going to go on the date?
    2. Eharmony already has a 50 page questionnaire. Most of us don't like answering them.
    3. Again...most dating sites already do this. They're called comparability tests but most of us base our decisions on PHYSICAL attraction.
    4. I don't think anyone cares about seeing someone's answer. What if they have a completely different answer from ours? Turn. Off. Carrotdating somewhat already does this.
    5. Why not just allow us to chat and get it out of the way? I'd hate to spend 2 weeks (or days) exchanging questions/answers with some guy who I then realized just wants to tell me how big my tits are, that he jerks off to me in free chat daily, and if I can give him my number.

    It doesn't matter how many questions you get right. If the person is a stalker or just wants to fuck you, that all goes out of the window.

    Get your OWN traffic and do a paid focus group. Stop trying to use us for traffic just because you "used" to be a cammodel. Encouraging us to promote your site to get a date with us is silly. Considering how many actual guys live near us vs. those who would fly out to meet us just to fuck, stalk, etc. We may as well use tinder. We don't want to earn cash via dating app (unless we're the developer) we just want to be safe, make money from home, and date who we want based not on what we do for work, but other factors. This will attract way too many creepers.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tvc444 View Post
    Thanks for all the helpful replies. Maybe I was wrong to think this might be a good fit. A few things that might make a difference.

    1. You certainly don't need to use your real name etc. in the app. You don't need to disclose anything if you don't want to. As a user yourself, you have complete control over who gets to interact with you.

    The question/answer exchange system works like this.

    1. You answer questions (from a question database) you find compelling interesting. For example it could be something like "If the world was going to end in 24 hours, what would you do with your last day"
    2. Potential daters (guys you bring into the app) see that you have answered this question (and any others you have answered) but don't see the actual answer itself.
    3. In order to see your answer to that question, they must also answer it.
    4. Once they answer the question. You receive a notification that they have answered the question, and you then decide whether or not you want to release your answer back to them. If you allow it, they are notified and then able to see your answer.
    5. Guys can chat with you directly once you have exchanged a set number of question/answers with that person (decided by you).

    You really have full control over the questions you ask/answer and what the guys who are interested in you answer. You never disclose anything you don't want to.

    Its more of a discovery game that can potentially (if you want it to) lead to deeper relationships over time.

    I definitely don't want to endanger any of your accounts, and though that the promotion of it could/should be done in a way where you simply say you have a profile here. Similar to saying you have a twitter or instagram. As far as I know, it isnt usually against TOS to mention social profiles, though I could certainly be wrong since its been over a year since I last cammed.

    Thank you all again for the feedback, and my apologies if I was simply wrong in thinking this might be a good way for you all to earn a bit of extra cash in a unique way.

    -Kristin
    Just something to think about......camgirls usually piggyback on things that guys already have installed for other types of 'vanilla' social interaction (example: snapchat, kik, skype) because it is hard to overcome both personal inertia and the fact that guys just don't trust anything that they are asked to download in the porn world because of so many dishonest affiliates and shady scammers.

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    I got suspended for a 3 days once on SM for MENTIONING I was on twitter. That was three years ago.
    My mistake, then, sorry for wasting your time. This sort of thing never happened to me, so I certainly could be mistaken about how stringent they are with that.

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    Get your OWN traffic and do a paid focus group. Stop trying to use us for traffic just because you "used" to be a cammodel. Encouraging us to promote your site to get a date with us is silly. Considering how many actual guys live near us vs. those who would fly out to meet us just to fuck, stalk, etc. We may as well use tinder. We don't want to earn cash via dating app (unless we're the developer) we just want to be safe, make money from home, and date who we want based not on what we do for work, but other factors. This will attract way too many creepers.
    Thanks very much for your feedback. I will be using many different channels for user acquisition, most of which are paid, and this was one of my ideas. Clearly it was a BAD one. Really truly, It wasnt my intention to make any of you feel like I was trying to use you at all.

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    Also, the idea isnt that you would want to date them, just that you could leverage their desire to date you to make money.
    Girlfriend experience is one thing, but good cammodels don't have to leverage "dating" to make money.

    This is shady. Potentially piss off your customer base and there goes your earnings.





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