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    Default Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black one

    ...than black ones? Meaning, do white women have greater chance at making more money than blacks ones because they are more desired by their clients based off the fact they are WHITE, and WHITE ALONE?

    I asked this because this article suggest so.http://www.thescavenger.net/feminism...aid-69223.html

    And because, deep down I know it's true with the way society is built around white women, and their beauty.Especially blondes. For some odd reason,people are so damn smitten by blondes.She could look like a hot damn mess,be rude as hell,and shaped funny,but as long as she is blonde she's deemed as this perfect specimen.


    P.S. Know, that I am NOT trying to be rude. Y'all ladies have been really sweet towards me.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Nope!!!!!!

    Here's why- the male sex drive is built to make a male mammal acquire NEW partners, not his OLD one.

    If people were only attracted to people within their own race, there would have never been any race-mixing, ever. The human sex drive is only second to the drive to EAT and DRINK...which is necessary for life. So sex is almost as important as air to men.

    White men choose women of color for many different reasons- 1) they have had a bad experience with a "white" woman. 2) they want "something different." 3) the woman of color suits the person he is NOW, not the man he was when he turned 18 and was freed from his family/neighborhood/hometown.

    Also women of color have been historically portrayed as more sexual and warm, .....whereas society looks down on loose white women. (It's Anglo-Saxon cultural conditioning.)

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    I really don't think anyone can really answer this. It really depends, on everything. The girl, the customer, the country, the city, the part of the city, the club. There's so many variations that it's impossible.


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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Yes and no... Sometimes white girls make more money because it's a predominantly white club and of course that is familiar to the guest.( maybe this is true on a slow night with limited guest). Most times, it is a leveled playing field and mainly based on hustle and a little bit of luck. Most guys don't care about skin tone, they're just happy to have a beautiful woman next to them.

    #Judging from my experience only # I have a dark complexion btw

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    @ NEWB. I feel the same way... But most importantly, I think it has a lot to do with hustle and luck( being in the right place at the right time). Most guys just want girls, but you do have the ones that like to pick through the crowd. I work in a tourist city so maybe it's different for us.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    I'm a big girl-- tall and broad-shouldered with big ol' thighs. Some guys come in and fall in love with my ass. Some guys come in and immediately go for the 100 pound 5'2" girl. That girl gets guys I can never get, and I get guys she can't have because everyone's got different taste.

    I think it's the same thing with race. I'm a white(looking) girl and I've definitely had guys who go for me over the black girls at my club. I've had a couple guys (black guys especially, WTH guys) say shit to me like "I don't like black girls," which is fucked up obviously. And then we get the old white guys who go for the black girls exclusively. It's a taste thing. But I think anyone can win with the right hustle and attitude.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    BTW all of my "white" friends are a mixture of different racial groups (Italian, Native American, some even have African genetics in the family tree but came out as a white as white can be.) Most of my "white" girl stripper friends laugh on the inside at racist customers & pocket their money....a lot of these guys are the types who can't land any woman b/c of their messed up attitudes. (Kind of how the members of Neo-Nazi militias often marry light-skinned Hispanic women. Those men are too crazy to keep an "Aryan Princess.")


    Lenny Bruce the comedian did a routine about this topic- he asked men if they would prefer a hot woman of color or an obese ugly "white" woman. He really put it in blunt perspective...

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    If all men prefer white girls then women of color won't be working as strippers since they won't be making money
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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    It depends.

    It depends on the clientele and the types of dancers working in the club. I think white women have a slight advantage if you work at a white club only because in America the ideal standard of beauty is a white woman.

    Now not every man is into just white women. Like one poster mentioned some men are attracted to and will spend money on women outside their race. Either out of curiosity or just because they are open to different races and cultures.

    I used to work on slow days shifts and i swear unless a man was flat out racists they didn't care about all that as long as you were a woman and looked halfway good.

    I actually think being non white or having blackness helps sometimes because some men think black women are insatiable freaks lol! And this thought alone can help sell more dances.

    Only thing I notice is that some customers think they don't have to pay you as much as white dancers. This is why I say make sure to charge the same rate as white dancers.
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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    I hope all my women of color dont fall for this trollish ass thread...

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    again trying to phrase this very carefully ...

    Are white dancers more desired than black ones
    The very nature of this question immediately introduces 'apples and oranges'. This is because 'desirability' in the eyes of ALL men is reduced to 'desirability' in the eyes of a subset of men who can afford to patronize strip clubs. Beyond this, the question also strongly implies that 'desirability' by that subset of men who can afford to patronize strip clubs is actually being determined by an even smaller subset of men, based on the amount of total strip club customer spending dollars being directed toward white dancers, versus black dancers, versus Asian dancers, etc.

    Trying to avoid socio-economic discussion, it is nonetheless a documented fact that the average incomes of white American men are significantly higher than the average incomes of black American men ... while both are lower than the average incomes of Asian American men. This totally skews any attempted analysis, since A. the composition of any given strip club's customer base is initially skewed by different men's ability to spend enough 'discretionary' money to go to a strip club in the first place, and B. this is further skewed by different strip club customers having far different amounts of 'discretionary' money available to spend on private dances / VIP / CR.

    Combining these factors, the OP's question ... and the 'yardstick' being used ... essentially boil down to the 'desirability' decisions being made by overwhelmingly middle aged, white, high earning strip club customers whose high 'discretionary' spending budgets effectively give them a disproportionately large 'vote'. Viewed from another angle, the OP's question ... and the 'yardstick' being used ... have practically nothing in common with a 'one person, one vote' election, but much in common with a corporate stockholder's meeting where votes are cast based on the actual number of company stock shares owned by particular individual stockholders. In this scenario, 7,8,9 stockholders / strip club customers out of 10 may express the same particular preference, only to see a different preference expressed by 1,2,3 stockholders / strip club customers who collectively own more stock shares / spend more total dollars in strip clubs, dominate.

    Actually answering the OP's question must then analyze factors which determine(d) female 'desirability' criteria for those middle aged, white, high earning strip club customers who comprise a disproportionately high amount of total strip club spending dollars. This potentially raises yet more questions about the legitimacy / accuracy of supposed 'same race' sexual preferences ( which appears to be embedded in some earlier postings ), raises questions about the major factors which contributed to such men's initial development of female 'desirability' criteria that typically took place while they were teenagers 20+ years ago ( i.e. sexy mainstream movie / TV stars, Playboy centerfolds, high school female classmates, etc. 20+ years ago ), etc.

    The latter may also play into the supposed heightened blonde 'desirability' as well. It is certainly a provable fact that, 20+ years ago, sexy mainstream movies and TV featured a disproportionate number of 'hot' white, blonde actresses and very few 'hot' black actresses. It is certainly a provable fact that, 20+ years ago, Playboy featured a disproportionate number of white, blonde centerfolds and very few black centerfolds. This is at least somewhat understandable given that movie and TV producers, magazine editors, etc. were not attempting to create 'products' which had the widest possible appeal, but instead were trying to selectively appeal to 'paying customers' ...
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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Also looking at it all statistically....the number of "Caucasian" people is still higher than the number of "African American" people in the USA.

    & I've gone to clubs where they only had one woman of color dancer b/c there were literally NO people of color coming to the club & the dancer was considered a novelty. As one old man put it to me, "A person of color here is as rare as hen's teeth."

    The male sex drive is fueled by a desire to want, take and dominate. HIS wants come ahead of society's expectations, his family conditioning and whatever his friends think. In my current home state, women of color as dancers make bank because they are the opposite of the wives of club regulars- those wives are fat, mean, hardly have sex with their husbands anymore and are into lame things like being a "soccer mom" and talking shit about anyone different...... That hot woman of color is a breath of fresh air for a man who has been pretty much pushed aside by his beast of a wife and her boring friends.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    I think non blondes perceive blondes to wield some magical powers or whatever just because they are "blonde". It's almost a defensive thing like "She's doing better than me, it can't be because she a a better hustler, in better shape, better looking etc. It must be because she's BLONDE!"

    Personally, if a girl is hot, she's hot. White, Asian, Black, Mixed, whatever. I find guys at my club go for all kinds. Honestly, the guys that care the most seem to prefer milky white redheads with lots of freckles. Those chicks BANK.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Yes I do believe that customers over look black dancers but I don't think it's due to solely to racism but rather subconscious decisions.

    for example at dog shelters there is something referred to as (BDS which stands for Black Dog Syndrome) what it means is that reguardless of the breed, black dogs generally take 4 times longer to be adopted than lighter colored dogs. On lighter dogs you can see their expressions better and they are more visible in their dark kennels. Another thing to consider is that movies/entertainment often use the color black to portray danger or untrustworthyness. For example the stigma about a black cat crossing your path....or the dark colored 3 headed dog in Harry Potter.

    I think alot of guys are also confused about how wigs and weaves work and might avoid a woman who has these because the idea of a wig falling off or running their fingers through their hair and the weave getting caught around their fingers freaks them out.

    I've also noticed that alot of black dancers I've worked with offten come across as (for lack of a better word) rachet/ghetto.

    So if I were to give advice to black dancers to increase your odds of being noticed and connecting better with customers I would say...

    1. Wear light/bright colors and consider light up heels.
    (With neon or uv outfits the colors will pop really nicely against your skin and you won't blend in when walking through a dark club.) I believe people also perceive a person in light/ bright colors as more happy/approachable.

    2. Get high pigmented blush/eyeshadow to bring out your features.

    3.Consider just having your natural hair. It's better to have beautiful short hair then a tacky looking wig/weave.

    4. try to smile/wink/wave/ laugh more. (It will show that you are nothing to be scared of)

    5. Stay classy and speak properly.

    6. Do not only dance to rap. If you dance to ghetto music high end customers might think that you like ghetto culture/ghetto men and they will think that they have nothing in common with you. ) Consider dancing to rock/house music/pop/reggae .....hell, put on some daisy dukes and dance to country. I bet guys would think that was awesome if a black chick did a cowgirl outfit and danced to country. Plus you would be the only one doing it so you would definitely stand out.

    7. When speaking with a customer make up some thing that would show you are a trust worthy/warm hearted person. Maybe say something about how you
    "volunteer at the animal shelter and you foster pets until they can find a good home. "

    8. You could try casually mentioning how you just looove white guys/asain guys/Spanish guys (depending on what guy you are talking to.) this will put them at ease and they will feel more special.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    Yes I do believe that customers over look black dancers but I don't think it's due to solely to racism but rather subconscious decisions.

    for example at dog shelters there is something referred to as (BDS which stands for Black Dog Syndrome) what it means is that reguardless of the breed, black dogs generally take 4 times longer to be adopted than lighter colored dogs. On lighter dogs you can see their expressions better and they are more visible in their dark kennels. Another thing to consider is that movies/entertainment often use the color black to portray danger or untrustworthyness. For example the stigma about a black cat crossing your path....or the dark colored 3 headed dog in Harry Potter.

    I think alot of guys are also confused about how wigs and weaves work and might avoid a woman who has these because the idea of a wig falling off or running their fingers through their hair and the weave getting caught around their fingers freaks them out.

    I've also noticed that alot of black dancers I've worked with offten come across as (for lack of a better word) rachet/ghetto.

    So if I were to give advice to black dancers to increase your odds of being noticed and connecting better with customers I would say...

    1. Wear light/bright colors and consider light up heels.
    (With neon or uv outfits the colors will pop really nicely against your skin and you won't blend in when walking through a dark club.) I believe people also perceive a person in light/ bright colors as more happy/approachable.

    2. Get high pigmented blush/eyeshadow to bring out your features.

    3.Consider just having your natural hair. It's better to have beautiful short hair then a tacky looking wig/weave.

    4. try to smile/wink/wave/ laugh more. (It will show that you are nothing to be scared of)

    5. Stay classy and speak properly.

    6. Do not only dance to rap. If you dance to ghetto music high end customers might think that you like ghetto culture/ghetto men and they will think that they have nothing in common with you. ) Consider dancing to rock/house music/pop/reggae .....hell, put on some daisy dukes and dance to country. I bet guys would think that was awesome if a black chick did a cowgirl outfit and danced to country. Plus you would be the only one doing it so you would definitely stand out.

    7. When speaking with a customer make up some thing that would show you are a trust worthy/warm hearted person. Maybe say something about how you
    "volunteer at the animal shelter and you foster pets until they can find a good home. "

    8. You could try casually mentioning how you just looove white guys/asain guys/Spanish guys (depending on what guy you are talking to.) this will put them at ease and they will feel more special.
    As a black dancer I don't really know how to feel about that post tbh


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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    I think alot of guys are also confused about how wigs and weaves work and might avoid a woman who has these because the idea of a wig falling off or running their fingers through their hair and the weave getting caught around their fingers freaks them out.
    Guys are so dumb. If they dont want to be freaked out they should ASK first before running their filthy hands through anybody's hair.

    I wear my natural hair just because I like to do pole tricks and I'm scared the wig will come flying off but many of the coworkers wear wigs and weaves - including white dancers.
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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    I think management thinks customers only want Aryan Nations poster children but my experiences say otherwise with customers. Especially the old farts. My bff can't get hired anywhere but white guys love her.
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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    [QUOTE=miss.a.p1600;2746726]Guys are so dumb. If they dont want to be freaked out they should ASK first before running their filthy hands through anybody's hair.

    I wear my natural hair just because I like to do pole tricks and I'm scared the wig will come flying off but many of the coworkers wear wigs and weaves - including white dancers.[/QUOT
    I agree with you, guys SHOULD ask before touching your hair, however they rarely do. I think I have a good understanding on how males think though. I've been sitting with customers who will notice a girl in a wig/bad weave and start saying semi rude things about it. They believe that a slight breeze wI'll knock it off....they also speculate that the girl must be bald naturally. I have seen really nice lace front wigs and weaves that are done well. That's totally fine if it looks natural. But if it's poor quality synthetic where your tracks are growing out and it overall just looks raggedy then that's bad. This applys to any race. I've seen horrible extentions on white girls as well.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Where I work (in NYC), i notice that white upper class men love their WOC.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    ...they also speculate that the girl must be bald naturally.


    I've heard customers say some incredibly stupid things but this is ... special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culitos View Post
    Where I work (in NYC), i notice that white upper class men love their WOC.
    Yes!! The Jewish rich Wall Street types LOOOOOVE WOC.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    ^^^ absolutely true. But those guys also want 'sophisticated', 'top shelf' WOC in the same way they expect 'sophistication' and 'top shelf' quality from white, Asian etc. dancers.

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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    You can't put all men in one box. They are all different with different tastes and preferences. In short, the answer is "No".
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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    BTW all of my "white" friends are a mixture of different racial groups (Italian, Native American, some even have African genetics in the family tree but came out as a white as white can be.) Most of my "white" girl stripper friends laugh on the inside at racist customers & pocket their money....a lot of these guys are the types who can't land any woman b/c of their messed up attitudes. (Kind of how the members of Neo-Nazi militias often marry light-skinned Hispanic women. Those men are too crazy to keep an "Aryan Princess.")
    I really can't stand when people use the term "light-skin Hispanic" as if Hispanic was a racial classification (the SOCIAL classification of races are: Caucasoid, Congoid, and Mongol, but scientifically everyone is a Homo Sapiens). Those women are white people as well (usually of southern European, Jewish, Slav, ME, or combination), or have very little Amerindian markers in their genes.

    My ex (a fellow 'Rican) was one of those Neo-Nazi types (he looks like Ricky Velez, from "The Nightly Show with Larry Whitmore"). He kept it very quiet for years. I found out about those tendencies after the divorce. My current dude likes to make fun of Jewish people 'cause they tend to be cheap...and I had a great grandma who was a Jew (and she was a cheap mo-fo), so I kinda improved in that department.

    A "Hispanic/Lati-American" (I personally hate both terms) can be of ANY race.

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    women of color
    Another term I can't stand. I've seen tons of WASP people (mostly men) calling themselves "I'm just a white man, you can't expect me to properly pronounce this word correctly" (I am a Spanish tutor). I point them to my chest (yes, my chest), and I ask them: " what color are they? brown? Tan?" Most say "of course not silly, they're lighter than MY ass cheeks". Then I proceed to explain them that the amount of melanin is no justification to do bad in Spanish. According to that, they should be the people of color and not me.





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    Default Re: Strippers of all races, tell the truth. Are white dancers more desired than black

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    Yes I do believe that customers over look black dancers but I don't think it's due to solely to racism but rather subconscious decisions. for example at dog shelters there is something referred to as (BDS which stands for Black Dog Syndrome) what it means is that reguardless of the breed, black dogs generally take 4 times longer to be adopted than lighter colored dogs. On lighter dogs you can see their expressions better and they are more visible in their dark kennels. Another thing to consider is that movies/entertainment often use the color black to portray danger or untrustworthyness. For example the stigma about a black cat crossing your path....or the dark colored 3 headed dog in Harry Potter. I think alot of guys are also confused about how wigs and weaves work and might avoid a woman who has these because the idea of a wig falling off or running their fingers through their hair and the weave getting caught around their fingers freaks them out. I've also noticed that alot of black dancers I've worked with offten come across as (for lack of a better word) rachet/ghetto. So if I were to give advice to black dancers to increase your odds of being noticed and connecting better with customers I would say... 1. Wear light/bright colors and consider light up heels. (With neon or uv outfits the colors will pop really nicely against your skin and you won't blend in when walking through a dark club.) I believe people also perceive a person in light/ bright colors as more happy/approachable. 2. Get high pigmented blush/eyeshadow to bring out your features. 3.Consider just having your natural hair. It's better to have beautiful short hair then a tacky looking wig/weave. 4. try to smile/wink/wave/ laugh more. (It will show that you are nothing to be scared of) 5. Stay classy and speak properly. 6. Do not only dance to rap. If you dance to ghetto music high end customers might think that you like ghetto culture/ghetto men and they will think that they have nothing in common with you. ) Consider dancing to rock/house music/pop/reggae .....hell, put on some daisy dukes and dance to country. I bet guys would think that was awesome if a black chick did a cowgirl outfit and danced to country. Plus you would be the only one doing it so you would definitely stand out. 7. When speaking with a customer make up some thing that would show you are a trust worthy/warm hearted person. Maybe say something about how you "volunteer at the animal shelter and you foster pets until they can find a good home. " 8. You could try casually mentioning how you just looove white guys/asain guys/Spanish guys (depending on what guy you are talking to.) this will put them at ease and they will feel more special.
    1. Your comparison to WOC and dogs is offensive and irrelevant. I just don't think it has anything to do with the topic at hand.

    2. Your statement that men avoid WOC because they are afraid the wig will fall off in their hand while touching their hair is laughable. Men shouldn't be running their fingers through a stripper's hair anyway. And I am getting tried of someone mentioning wigs/weaves EVERY SINGLE TIME the topic of WOC and race is brought up. White women wear wigs and extensions just as often as WOC. Even white celebrities wear hair extensions. Like, almost every single one of them. Again, how is this relevant?

    3. There are alot of "trashy" white dancers I've seen too. I've seen alot more trashy white girls in the clubs than I've seen trashy black girls. The reason for this is because the standards for black dancers are higher in general than for white dancers. So, when a black dancer gets hired at the clubs I've worked at, she is very well put together, walks gracefully, speaks articulately, and looks like a 10, because otherwise she might not be there. The white girls come in droves and tend to act more on the "trashy" side b/c they feel they can afford to. So there goes your theory on black "ghetto" girls. I'm fed up of this stereotype too.

    4. We don't need your advice in order to "better connect" with customers. Your assumption that WOC need to prove themselves by showing "there is nothing to be scared of" is pretty offensive, too. How is that, on any planet in any universe, good advice?

    Ever heard of mansplaining? Well, I think whitesplaining is a thing too. smdh.
    Last edited by ScarletKitten; 04-07-2015 at 03:17 PM.
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