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    Question House Rules

    The question is not based off any specific incident, just personal observations and things I have read here.

    When does following the house rules fall on the customer during a lapdance regarding contact/touching?

    Obviously a dancers personal limits that are stricter than he house should always be respected, but there are dancers that are sometimes more permissive or performs dances with more contact than the house allows. A dancer that is new to the club may not have been explained the rules. A new customer may not know them, but a regular customer would/should, does he have a greater responsibility?

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    Default Re: House Rules

    Are you asking whether you should tell the dancer that she is being too permissive?

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    Yes. Does he just go with it? Should he stop the dancer in middle of the dance? Tell her after the dance is over? Or just leave after the dance is over and not say anything?

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    Always follow your dancer's lead.

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    Well I would think it depends on the situation and the type of management at the club.

    Like if a veteran dancer was too permissive, then I could see the responsibility falling on her. Or if they know a customer is a regular then he should know the rules by then and some of the blame could be placed on him. If people's actions cause attention of law enforcement then any savvy club will not want any part of this whether from the dancer or the customer.

    Management is not going to give dancers on the job training or explain all the rules. They will only tell you bare basics, the minimum required to save their a$$ should anything negative go down.

    Just go with your gut. If a dancer is too permissive and you think her actions could land herself in hot water or get you banned from the club then do not dance with her anymore or arrange to see her outside the club where you can have more freedom and not have to worry about club rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackra View Post
    Always follow your dancer's lead.
    That sort of is the heart of my question, how far to follow that lead before getting to a point where your in hot water with management?

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Well I would think it depends on the situation and the type of management at the club.

    Like if a veteran dancer was too permissive, then I could see the responsibility falling on her. Or if they know a customer is a regular then he should know the rules by then and some of the blame could be placed on him. If people's actions cause attention of law enforcement then any savvy club will not want any part of this whether from the dancer or the customer.

    Management is not going to give dancers on the job training or explain all the rules. They will only tell you bare basics, the minimum required to save their a$$ should anything negative go down.

    Just go with your gut. If a dancer is too permissive and you think her actions could land herself in hot water or get you banned from the club then do not dance with her anymore or arrange to see her outside the club where you can have more freedom and not have to worry about club rules.
    I wasn't even thinking about things getting to the point of where LE would get involved. I would imagine anything leading outside the club would be a whole different interaction between the customer and dancer.

    I was more going along the lines of strictly in the club stuff. For instance in a No Contact club where the dancer has contact, or a one way club where the dancer encourages two way by either saying something or doing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salzsieder67 View Post
    That sort of is the heart of my question, how far to follow that lead before getting to a point where your in hot water with management?


    I wasn't even thinking about things getting to the point of where LE would get involved. I would imagine anything leading outside the club would be a whole different interaction between the customer and dancer.

    I was more going along the lines of strictly in the club stuff. For instance in a No Contact club where the dancer has contact, or a one way club where the dancer encourages two way by either saying something or doing something.
    Lols. Kinda figured from your prior posts you probably wouldn't go that far into left field but yeah I think it depends on management and what they know and what they enforce. For example the club I work girls who get caught going far into left field like sucking and fucking get 86'd. Now all the extra stuff - the gray area in between - if they get caught they might not get fired but it's not a good look. They will get labeled in a negative way.

    Plus how do you know management will find out the rules are being tested? Are there cameras or what not? I would think if the dancer initiates more then the burden would be on her. I noticed a dancer got fired recently and the rumor was she went far into left field but a few days later her regular customer - a big spender - was back and blowing money on someone else. I do wonder if customer spending power plays a role in whether or not management decides to enforce broken rules.
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    I chuckle every time I imagine a scene where the customer says to the dancer, "Oh no baby, you're not allowed to touch me there." If anything, many of these guys are more likely to go the other direction and assure her that almost anything is permissible. After all, many customers, and regulars in particular, know that they won't pay a heavy price for a rule violation anyway. In most cases, the clubs won't even kick them out, especially if they are good spenders.

    Since dancers are the ones who risk labeling, job loss, etc., they need to learn the club rules and to behave accordingly. Relying upon club customers to police permissible activities is just beyond foolhardy.

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    If you have learned anything on SW it should be not to tell a dancer how to do her job. 110% on her to know the rules and whether or not she wants to bend or break them IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I chuckle every time I imagine a scene where the customer says to the dancer, "Oh no baby, you're not allowed to touch me there." If anything, many of these guys are more likely to go the other direction and assure her that almost anything is permissible. After all, many customers, and regulars in particular, know that they won't pay a heavy price for a rule violation anyway. In most cases, the clubs won't even kick them out, especially if they are good spenders.

    Since dancers are the ones who risk labeling, job loss, etc., they need to learn the club rules and to behave accordingly. Relying upon club customers to police permissible activities is just beyond foolhardy.
    At the club I go to regularly, I have seen a couple of customers get spoken to by the manager with a bouncer hovering close by after stepping out of the lapdance area. I can't imagine it was about getting a good rating on Yelp. Some clubs do have rules, and typically there are consequences for breaking rules. I just didn't think they would always fall on the dancer. If both people know the rules then they are equally guilty of colouring outside of the lines. I have a slightly different mindset than most I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbleHead View Post
    If you have learned anything on SW it should be not to tell a dancer how to do her job. 110% on her to know the rules and whether or not she wants to bend or break them IMO.
    I am not so foolhardy as to tell a dancer how to do her job and risk getting killed by a stiletto heel in the skull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salzsieder67 View Post
    At the club I go to regularly, I have seen a couple of customers get spoken to by the manager with a bouncer hovering close by after stepping out of the lapdance area. I can't imagine it was about getting a good rating on Yelp. Some clubs do have rules, and typically there are consequences for breaking rules. I just didn't think they would always fall on the dancer. If both people know the rules then they are equally guilty of colouring outside of the lines. I have a slightly different mindset than most I guess.
    Even if those couple of guys were being scolded for pushing boundaries, and we don't know that, a stern admonishment is a far cry from job loss and the other issues that a dancer can face for it. But many clubs that I frequent won't say anything to the customer at all, unless he assaults the dancer, does something against her will or pulls some other truly egregious stunt.

    It may not seem fair, but what can you really do but toss a customer out anyway? And if you do so, what's gained by it except for the loss of another spender? Many clubs can ill afford to lose good spending customers, especially nowadays. Even scolding them carries the risk of driving them to other clubs. So instead customers are often handled with kid gloves while the dancers take the grief for whatever misdeeds occurred in the back rooms. Now IME there are exceptions to this and some clubs will indeed toss customers out simply for crossing boundaries, but IME they are few and far between nowadays.

    Anyway, just my for whatever it's actually worth.

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