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    Default Re: The Broke-Shaming Hustle

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Has anyone ever tried "broke shaming" guys who claim they don't have the money for a dance? Have you actually succeeded in selling a dance afterwards?

    I'm thinking this could go one of two ways (and I'd only try these in clubs that have high turnover and fewer regulars):

    1) The guy you're hustling says he has no money for a dance. Your target is this customer. You are sitting close to another customer, and you loudly ask your target "Did you say you don't have $20 to spend on a dance?!" The aim here would be to indirectly shame your target customer by setting up the potential for another man to hear that he can't afford a dance, thus placing pressure on him to prove himself as a man.

    2) The guy you're hustling says he has no money for a dance. Your target is a different customer. You start by loudly repeating "Did you say you don't have $20 to spend on a dance?" You then turn to a nearby customer (your actual target) and lightly ridicule the original customer. "Wanna hear something funny? This guy came into a strip club and can't afford a $20 dance!" You can take this in one of two directions. You can either return to your original customer and say "Are you SURE you don't have $20 to play with me?" or you can abandon your original customer and pull a fast hustle on the second guy. "I bet YOU aren't that lame. I bet you're ready to take me in the back right now. Let's go have fun!" (stand up, taking customer #2's hand) This puts pressure on the second customer to prove (and decide very quickly) that he is a more powerful male than the first guy, which taps into some pretty primal urges.

    I've never tried either, and they're definitely high-risk hustles. I would only try option #2 on a customer who looks like a businessman personality type (never on a quiet-looking, sweet, thoughtful type). But if you have the right persona (ice queen, bitch, party girl), or even if you're just in a shitty mood and can't turn the night around, it might be worth a try.

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    These two won't work at clubs with super loud music. Some clubs owned by Rick's have super loud music.





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    Default Re: The Broke-Shaming Hustle

    I don't think I've had any success with the gentle direct shaming hustle (being amazed that someone doesn't have money for a dance). These guys seem to have no shame about it, which is a bit odd to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tourdefranzia View Post
    I will qualify the comment of "too broke" before shaming him by asking, "You don't have enough money to buy dances or you just don't want to buy dances with me?" If he isn't interested in me, I'll thank him for his time and move on. If he wants dances but money is the obstacle, then I offer other ways he can pay (I use a mobile credit card payment system, and upsell the fact that he doesn't have to pay the club's inflated ATM fees, etc).

    Shaming them will work on a certain kind of personality. If he is submissive and enjoys humiliation he will likely just hand you money without the expectation of dances. Strangely, I find dentists are more likely to be attracted to a dominatrix personality. Maybe that's just around here.
    Do guys ever call their banks and get charge backs on the charges you put on the mobile bank? I was thinking this would be a good idea but chargebacks must be a problem.

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    Saw a girl do the broke-shaming once, don't know if it was a hustle - maybe she was just frustrated, and after she'd done that he actually spent money.

    On me. I walked up to him right after she left and fixed his bruised ego. She motivated him to spend, just not on her.

    I think it's a tricky hustle, it can go either way really, and some dancers pull it off better than others. It's a gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethis View Post
    Saw a girl do the broke-shaming once, don't know if it was a hustle - maybe she was just frustrated, and after she'd done that he actually spent money.

    On me.
    Oooooh snap!! I really appreciate you sharing your story, because this is absolutely a possible consequence of shaming someone. On the one hand, perhaps the original hustler has nothing to lose since the guy isn't spending money on her. On the other hand, it's possible that he'll channel that negative energy into spending on someone ELSE. It's also possible that a 'non-spender' could become a spender after a couple of beers. I've been surprised lately by how many times this happens - someone will say they aren't buying dances that night, I'll give them a polite "well let me know if you change your mind!" and then they come up to me later for a dance. But if you shame these 'non-spenders', they're likely to spend their money on anyone but you. And honestly, I think even if you ended up getting a dance from someone after using this hustle, neither of you would feel good about it.

    Yeah, I'm gonna have to say that in general, this hustle is a BAD idea for the majority of dancers and their customers. I'm really glad we discussed it!

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    Default Re: The Broke-Shaming Hustle

    Ive done it a lot and they almost always let me walk away but once it made a guy spent a few hundred on me, he loved to be talked badly to and told what a loser he was.lol. I wasn't expecting that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ava$ View Post
    Ive done it a lot and they almost always let me walk away but once it made a guy spent a few hundred on me, he loved to be talked badly to and told what a loser he was.lol. I wasn't expecting that..
    Yeah, I would guess that a very specific kind of work persona (blonde bitch, slutty, or ice queen) in a specific kind of club (high turnover and expensive, like Rick's New Orleans or Sapphire Las Vegas) could have success with this hustle, especially using it more on the high-powered businessmen types.

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    Default Re: The Broke-Shaming Hustle

    If a guy isn't giving me any money, I don't even care about being rude to him or hurting his feelings. He's wasting my time which is disrespectful so I'm fine with disrespecting him back.

    If he says he doesn't have money for a dance I'll keep hustling and try to be cute and be like "you came to a club that has lap dances with no lap dance money??" If it still doesn't work I'll say "ok, well I need to get back to work, I'll let all the other girls know you don't have any money for dances so they don't bug you." At that point they either leave or change their tone and either get a dance or give me money for one just so I don't say anything to the other girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethis View Post
    Saw a girl do the broke-shaming once, don't know if it was a hustle - maybe she was just frustrated, and after she'd done that he actually spent money.

    On me. I walked up to him right after she left and fixed his bruised ego. She motivated him to spend, just not on her.

    I think it's a tricky hustle, it can go either way really, and some dancers pull it off better than others. It's a gamble.
    Definitely tricky. I think there are ways to go abt guilting a guy into spending w/o outright pissing him off, but it's a very fine line.

    Being slick is one thing, but if I've gotten frustrated w/ a guy to the point of trying to blatantly shame him, when I have gotten this result, often I am actually happy w/ it (provided there's no extras going on). At that point, for me it becomes a matter of principle. The muthafka came in & is wasting my time, & will potentially waste the time of how many other girls that are all there for the same reason. NoNoNoNoNO So what if he spent on another girl in order to spite me -- point is, he SPENT. If he is fighting me THAT HARD abt spending $$$, then in my mind there's a good chance he's not worth the stress. If he makes another girl's nite, or just makes another girl's nite a bit easier, in these cases I consider it a win.

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    I did this once and it worked - I posted about it in another thread somewhere. I wasn't trying to use it as a hustle, lol.....I was just having a really bad night and lost my temper. I think it would be most successful in a group setting, where the guy's ego is on the line in front of his buddies. IMO, the customers who have the balls to come to the club by themselves and then sit there all night without tipping probably don't care much about what other people think of them. I could be wrong though.

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    Default Re: The Broke-Shaming Hustle

    This has worked for me before, but not necessarily the shaming part of it. Sometimes if the guy is with a group and I ask loudly something like, "You don't have enough money for a dance?" then his friends will either correct me and tell him to get a dance, or pay for it themselves.

    I don't like to shame people or make them feel bad for my own gain, that makes me feel queasy.

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