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    So last night at work, I'm on stage, it's a dead night. A new table walk in and get one of the bouncers to call me over. Immediately they want to go upstairs. They have bottle service and appear to have a lot of money.

    So we go up for an hour originally. My guy pulls out an 8 ball. I told him he couldn't do it but he does anyway...it was really hard to stop him and what was I meant to do, kick him out when he was spending money? I was fairly certain I could keep him up there all night.

    Anyway, he gets 5 HOURS. I pocket almost 2 grand by the end of the night. He'd been doing coke in the room and I had just danced in front of him. I didn't do any of it although he offered. I don't do drugs on or off the job.

    At the end of the night, at tip out I tell my manager I was only upstairs (ie I didn't have to tip him out because I didn't make money on the floor.) He goes "me too." I thought this was weird and it didn't occur to me what he could have meant by that until I was on my way home. At one point when I was dancing for the guy, my manager walked past and gave us a dirty look...and I didn't really understand if I was getting too "close" while dancing or if he had seen the guys coke (I don't think I was getting too close while dancing...)

    Anyway, not sure how to proceed with this or what to say next time I go into work if I get asked about it. I acknowledge that I could have handled the situation better but at the same time, I had very little control over the situation...and it wasn't my cocaine nor was I doing it. I simply had a customer who was and he spent a lot of money.

    Sorry if this is in the wrong place! Just having a bunch of weird anxiety and kind of worried about legal stuff if I did do anything wrong...any advice is appreciated Thank you

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    It's a really slippery slope to live by the 'But he was spending $$$!!!' excuse IMO. Had that mgr actually confronted the customer, or God forbid a cop walked by & saw it, you would have been just as deep in the shit as the customer. If you didn't realise it b4, I hope this experience showed you just how little most customers care abt the consequences their misbehaviour can have for us.

    In future, you need to be more assertive & either shut down that kind of madness, or walk away & get security/mgmt. if you're not in control of your VIP, who is? You were not only taking a huge risk legally speaking, but risking your safety if smtg set him off while he was high & he got violent.

    I would attempt sm dmg control, since it sounds like your mgr already knows what was going on. Admit that you fk'd up by letting the customer continue his drug use, & explain that you didn't actually touch it yourself. Offer to take a drug test, since cocaine does stay in your system for a few days. If the club takes a sizeable portion of VIP earnings, take the 'But he was spending $$$$!' route & then say that you won't let that sort of misbehaviour continue going forward.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    I completely disagree with that last paragraph. There's no point in saying anything. Just carry on like normal. If management confronts you then obviously don't lie. I don't think anything good is going to come out of it if you spill. Also drug tests? I think that's a little ott. I don't think management would waste time doing that. If there was a problem they would have said by now

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    As someone who has managed before, I don't see how OTHER managers think they're entitled to dancer's earnings in any ways. I never expected tips from dancers 'cause the club pays me already. Not a whole lot (as if I was dancing), but managing is not a tipping position. If I wanted tips, I'd go back to be a bartender or a waitress.





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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Thanks guys.

    What kind of legal trouble? It wasn't my drugs so it wasn't possession...not constructive possession because for that it would have had to have been in my locker or something. And I wasn't selling it or furnishing it. I was just in a room with someone who happened to be doing coke. I'm just curious. Is there a way I could get in trouble for this legally at this point? I'm getting super worried...

    But also isn't it the manager/bouncers job to make sure this stuff doesn't happen? Not mine to bounce guys out for illegal behavior? Had I confronted him it could have potentially gotten ugly. He literally had asked the bouncer if he could do coke in the club before I took him up...they just ignored him!

    The drug test idea is definitely a good idea. I will go in and if my manager asks me about it I'll tell the truth and say what I said here and offer to take a drug test and insist I didn't do any of it and just was in an awkward position, apologize ect...

    Re: the tip thing...at my club there isn't really a "cut" that is taken out of dances unless it's funny money...so you just "tip" 20% of it to the manager or floor host. If they were also taking money out of my dances there would be no way. I guess it's the same thing as other jobs--bartenders don't make all the money of every drink they sell ect.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Your club has bouncers and strippers. Are the bouncers expected to take their turn on stage? No? The strippers are not expected to 86 customers because IT'S NOT YOUR JOB.

    There may be some gray area if your contract says you are required to report illegal activity to management, and management found out that you had knowledge of illegal activity and failed to report it. My guess is that the guys paid off the bouncers to look the other way. This is pretty common. Unless you are at risk of arrest, I'd say just ignore it. That manager/bouncer likely made a killing off that guy and allowed him certain liberties that a non-tipping customer would never get away with.

    Never mention the situation at work again. Ignore your manager's "Me too" comment because it is basically meaningless. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to read between the lines. It is best to just let sleeping beasts lay. By next week, everyone will have forgotten the whole thing, most likely.

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    This is what I was thinking. As far as I'm concerned, I am not liable for somebody else's behavior that I am not partaking in. I was the entertainer. I don't believe I am at risk of arrest for this, am I? :/

    And yes, he tipped the vip host/bouncer and the waitress each like 200 dollars plus what they made off the bottle and their cut of what I made...

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaRenee View Post
    This is what I was thinking. As far as I'm concerned, I am not liable for somebody else's behavior that I am not partaking in. I was the entertainer. I don't believe I am at risk of arrest for this, am I? :/
    Only at the moment it was happening. There is no reason for concern now since the incident has passed.

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    And that would just be if a cop had walked by and immediately assumed that I was also doing the cocaine or that it was mine or had sold it? I'm paranoid that the club is going to call the cops or something...

    Worst case scenario, I get fired, which wouldn't be fair but also wouldn't be the end of the world. I'm moving across the country in less than a month and can get by on what I made that night until then and still have my savings "goal" for the move.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Don't worry about it! If you were in trouble they would have told you by now.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Yeah. Ive not been in since the incident but going in tonight and tomorrow. I think the other manager is working so...not sure if that's good or bad. But I'm assuming they would have called me or something if there was a huge problem.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    If you were in trouble they would have dealt with it right then and there. They wouldn't have been subtle about it. So you really have nothing to worry about.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    I agree, don't worry about it. Move on. You did your job, you made them money you forget about it. Management probably just wants it forgotten as much as you do at this point.

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    Thanks guys! I went in last night and had a pretty decent night. It was the other manager who likes me and he didn't say a word to me about it, nor did anybody else. Still a little anxious to work with the other manager but hopefully by next week it all will have blown over!

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    Just pocket the money and keep your mouth shut. Leson learned.
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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    In my experience, drugs are totally ok as long as they're discreet in VIP. Most clubs want whatever gets them the most money without getting them arrested. Pocket your money, don't mention the drugs. Also, good plan not using the drugs. Don't do that.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaRenee View Post
    So last night at work, I'm on stage, it's a dead night. A new table walk in and get one of the bouncers to call me over. Immediately they want to go upstairs. They have bottle service and appear to have a lot of money.

    So we go up for an hour originally. My guy pulls out an 8 ball. I told him he couldn't do it but he does anyway...it was really hard to stop him and what was I meant to do, kick him out when he was spending money? I was fairly certain I could keep him up there all night.

    Anyway, he gets 5 HOURS. I pocket almost 2 grand by the end of the night. He'd been doing coke in the room and I had just danced in front of him. I didn't do any of it although he offered. I don't do drugs on or off the job.

    At the end of the night, at tip out I tell my manager I was only upstairs (ie I didn't have to tip him out because I didn't make money on the floor.) He goes "me too." I thought this was weird and it didn't occur to me what he could have meant by that until I was on my way home. At one point when I was dancing for the guy, my manager walked past and gave us a dirty look...and I didn't really understand if I was getting too "close" while dancing or if he had seen the guys coke (I don't think I was getting too close while dancing...)

    Anyway, not sure how to proceed with this or what to say next time I go into work if I get asked about it. I acknowledge that I could have handled the situation better but at the same time, I had very little control over the situation...and it wasn't my cocaine nor was I doing it. I simply had a customer who was and he spent a lot of money.

    Sorry if this is in the wrong place! Just having a bunch of weird anxiety and kind of worried about legal stuff if I did do anything wrong...any advice is appreciated Thank you
    Your manager probably didn't care and knew what was going on hence why he wanted a tip. Some clubs it's a common thing and yes you would get busted too probably if cops saw. I had this happen 2 weeks ago at a club it's not known for. The guy gave me 3000 so i just tried to hide it. It probably would have been best to tell him to go to the bathroom. Hopefully you'll be fine.

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    To Be Honest you came out way ahead of the game by making a couple grand off of the VIP. Many girls have been fired/run off from clubs for totally fake reasons...In this case you couldn't do anything about the guy wanting to do drugs in there.

    I knew a girl who was a shitty hustler & her go-to line was "I have coke in my hotel room". No kidding. I'm starting to think that's a more common secret hustle than I ever imagined.

    So your manager probably thinks the worst, BUT if he can't prove anything he won't fire you until he has more solid proof. Even if he goes on a rampage and does fire you, you can always work elsewhere and keep the money you made in VIP as an emergency savings cushion. Trust me babe, some of us have gotten booted from clubs for much less, with much less in pocket from said club. "Look out for Number One" in this business...

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    ^ That is a common thing in Ny to get guys in rooms. Girls risk arrest carrying on them..,

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    Sometimes it's just a bad luck type event. IMO if I was in your heels that night I would have risked issues to get 5 hours in VIP.

    & Clubs will never call the cops for an issue like that (bad press), but WILL pick on a dancer b/c they can & there is no penalty for them to do that. Lucky for most girls, they are ICs and can just go work elsewhere.

    Hate to say it but with the way stripper money is now, the risk was worth the reward. Just my opinion.

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    Next time you get a customer like that, take him to the bathroom if you feel you're at risk. Make sure he doesn't get too fucked up either. I hate that if anything happens to a grown ass adult, it falls on us. -_- *sigh* I get it.

    As for your manager's comment, ignore it. If he says something to you, just tell him you didn't know what he meant by that. Which is the truth, anyway.

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    Default Re: Not sure what to make of this...

    Right.

    My other manager said something about "remember don't do too much contact upstairs!" so it honestly could have been that...although IMHO I'm a total prude and don't want guys touching my boobs or anything so it caught me off guard a bit.

    And seriously...it is stupid that it falls back on us. If the other manager who was there during the cocaine incident says anything to me on my next shift I will just say that I didn't understand, apologize, ect...that is if it hasn't blown over already. We'll see. There are literally girls who SELL drugs on the floor and do extras at my club or meet guys outside after so I'm not overly worried about being able to defend myself. And as I said, worst case scenario I get fired and can live a month on what I have saved up...it would just be BS if I did over something that was not my fault.

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