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    Hi,

    I am from europe and i would like to work in usa for one month. But I don't get working visa. It is big risk work in club in US without visa?

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    Nah,not at all.

    There is a risk that if police raids club for prostitution/drugs, you will have problems when/if cops will realize that you have no legal right to work in the US.
    So do your research to find a clean club. And remember, you can't work in cities where dancers need to have a license(Las-Vegas,Atlanta,etc).

    To find out if particular club requires work authorization to work at, you can just call them and ask if you need to bring social security card,apart from ID.

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    Thanks for information

    so if I work in clean club in city where I dont need licence it should be ok?

    Do I need licence in NY or Miami?

    Club which accept just ID and dont need security card take me work without visa, yes?

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    Yeah, you should be fine,then BUT shit happens. Working in a club with a clean reputation reduces risk but everything is possible.

    You don't need license in NY or Miami. Just keep in mind that Miami is full of extras and painfully slow during summer. NYC isn't perfectly clean city,anyway, still not so dirty as Miami,imho.

    And yup, if they don't ask for social security card,they hardly give a shit about your immigration status. Just don't mention that you don't have a green card to customers/coworkers. If someone will ask when you came here, you can tell that was brought here by parents x years ago. I am not trying to tell that "being brought to the USA by parents=automatically legal". It just sounds better/less suspicious than "I just came here".

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    And in place where I need licence is no chance to work without visa? (las vegas for example)

    Or which city where i dont need licence is good for work in america? i have never been there so i have no idea...

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    Nope,absolutely no chance. When you apply for dancer's license, you gotta show proof that you are U.S citizen or green-card holder.

    Sorry,girl,no idea, I have worked only in NYC.

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    Check out the "Club Chat" section of the this website for more information on clubs/cities for specific information. I'm in Portland, OR, and there is no license required. The clubs will need to see your passport. For the most club options in Portland, it is best if you are over 21. Dancers who are 18-20 can work in clubs here, but the earning potential is limited.

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    I would also add that, because of recent changes in the law, US 'employers' are required to verify the legal work status of all newly hired workers. Also, the US 'employers' themselves can now be charged if they knowingly hire a worker who is not a US citizen, does not have a 'green card', does not have a work visa specific to the type of work, etc. As a result, it's extremely probable that US 'corporate chain' clubs will not hire a non-US citizen dancer who does not have a 'green card' or a work visa ... because corporate attorneys have warned club managers about the legal consequences to the club of being caught doing so.

    Undoubtedly some number of privately owned US strip clubs will be willing to hire a hot foreign dancer without caring too much about her 'paperwork'. However, it's also possible that such clubs may take a similar disregard to complying with other laws such as prostitution, drugs etc.


    If someone will ask when you came here, you can tell that was brought here by parents x years ago. I am not trying to tell that "being brought to the USA by parents=automatically legal".
    This actually refers to a very recent change in US immigration policy i.e. 'Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals' or DACA. It applies to illegal immigrants who were brought into the USA while still 'children', and arguably allows those ( now much oider ) illegal child immigrants to stay in the USA without fear of immediate deportation. This 'cover story' is likely to work very well for you in the New York area, given that lots of eastern European immigrants have established a major presence in the greater NYC area.
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    I still study and i gen get J-1 working holiday visa on summer..... but when i read all forbidden job on this visa, i also found work in strip bars there... So do you thin it have any sence apply for this visa?

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    As a result of the same recent changes in the law, US student visas will now allow foreign students to work for a division of the college they are attending, but not other types of unrelated jobs. This means working in the college bookstore, cafeteria, etc. And this specifically does NOT mean working as an exotic dancer

    In order for a foreign citizen to successfully apply for a US work visa with specific endorsement for exotic dancing ...

    - the applicant must have a recognized 'presence' in the adult entertainment industry i.e. boxcover porn actress, feature dancer etc.
    - the applicant must have a pre-arranged schedule of advance bookings at various US strip clubs
    - the applicant must have a pre-arranged schedule of arrival and DEPARTURE from US territory which coincides with her strip club bookings

    ... or, put another way, there is zero chance that a foreign 'house dancer' is going to be approved for a US work visa these days.


    Here's an example of the 'uphill battle' foreign dancers face in regard to US work visas for dancing. One of my industry acquaintances is both an exotic dancer in the UK, as well as a flight attendant on an airline which regularly flies between the UK and the US east coast. The club she dances at in the UK is an international chain club, which also operates 'sister' clubs in a couple of US east coast cities. My acquaintance wanted to be able to dance in a US 'sister' club during her layovers on the US end of her international flights. She approached her club manager in the UK, who in turn contacted a 'sister' club manager in the US, and was officially 'hired' by the US 'sister' club to dance whenever she had a layover on the US end.

    She applied for a US work visa for exotic dancing, with the full endorsement of the US 'sister' club manager. The US gov't turned down her work visa application, with the stated reason for her dis-approval being that no shortage of US exotic dancers exists which would allow for foreign dancers to fill otherwise vacant US jobs, and also because ( unlike a boxcover porn actress or feature dancer ) she had no 'unique' talents which could not be supplied by a US citizen 'house' dancer.
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    J-1 visa is pretty easy to get,btw. By comparison with tourist/student visas. Actually a lot of European dancers came here on this visa.

    Officially,you are not allowed to work in an adult industry,indeed. But if you are ready to take a risk... Then you have options :

    1) Get a job-offer (waitress,cashier,etc),actually work for whole summer at that work you signed up for not to have problems with your sponsor(CIEE?) and secretly dance. The thing is that most of job-offers are in small towns so I guess,you would have to commute.

    2)Then again,get a job-offer but just don't come to work for your employer - stay in a bigger city to dance. The problem is that such violation of visa will be immediately found out and you will be required to leave country by your sponcor. It will affect your ability to get American visas in the future.
    Even if you prefer the second option, I would advice to get social security card,anyway. You can go to town where your job-offer is,apply for SSN through your employer which will take couple of weeks. You can leave to dance after receiving SSN. Just keep in mind that you still can't get hired in clubs where they require social security simply because your card will be eligible only for work on your job-offer. But you still need SSN here,to open bank account,for example.

    What country are you from?

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    ^^^ there has also been recent changes to the J-1 'cultural exchange' visa program ...

    (snip) A job offer [ from a US employer - sic ] is required prior to visa interview. Students from six particular countries (Bulgaria, Russia, Romania, Ukraine, Moldova, and Belarus) must have a job offer that has been confirmed by a sponsoring organization [ i.e. the US college - sic ] before the student can apply for a visa. Because of these requirements, employers and J-1 students must get a head start on the hiring and visa application process. These regulations have been initiated due to allegations of sex trade, illegal business practices, improper housing, and general vulnerabiltiy of J-1 visa recipients (snip)

    These recent changes mean that a job offer from a US business ... for a job which falls into an 'acceptable' category for type of work ... must now be pre-arranged before a J-1 visa can be applied for. Additionally, if the applicant is from one of the 'high risk' countries, the job offer must also be confirmed via the sponsoring US college or organization contacting that US business.

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    Oh,yeah, I am aware

    That's what I was talking about - she must get a job-offer to apply for J-visa. Question is if she will actually want to work there once she comes here.

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    i am from czech republic. we can get working holidy visa also without job offer. but we have to find job in 2 weeks, othervise we have to leave usa. officiali we can not work in strip club, we have to find another employer and he has to fill up some documents for agency which help you with visa. and we have to work minmum 9 weeks there (i would like work just 4-5 weeks)

    So maybe it is easier go work witho working visa...



    Quote Originally Posted by Eban'ko View Post
    Oh,yeah, I am aware

    That's what I was talking about - she must get a job-offer to apply for J-visa. Question is if she will actually want to work there once she comes here.

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    Ohh,I see. Well, then better go on tourist visa,I guess.

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    and which club is good and clean in NY? it is better there in summer or september?

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    September is supposed to be better.

    Gallaghers,Riviera,Flashdancer's are relatively clean and nice,imo.

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