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    I've been out of dancing full time for about 2 years, while previously dancing almost 4 years. I'm 25 now. I've been pretty miserable and miss my dancing life & lifestyle. My biggest fear is turning 35 and not being hot any more and being single with no solid exit plan. Do you have one? If you don't, what's your general plan?

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    35 isn't the end of the road for strippers. I know plenty of top earners in their 40's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    35 isn't the end of the road for strippers. I know plenty of top earners in their 40's.
    Great point!^
    But, I do think it's important to have a back up plan. I'm working on one now


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    If you save 2k a month you'll have a pretty penny when you're done. Put it aside and don't touch it till you're ready to retire from dancing. You'll have $240,00 by the time you're 35, not including interest. Then use that money to start your next career. Invest it in a business or stocks and bonds. Buy a house, rent it out and be a landlord. Pay for tuition for school to learn the ropes of your dream career. Start a business. Hell, open a pole dancing studio. Whatever you want! If you save money now, your exit plan doesn't have to be perfectly lined up, you've got plenty of time to iron out the details. Just SAVE!!!

    The more you save the more choices you'll have for what to do next. If you're a high earner and really diligent about saving you could retire early. $1700 saved a week is about a million dollars after ten years of dancing.


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    Thank you, button pop especially. Not sure if I can make enough to save 2k a week dancing but could probably save 1k a week here and live comfortably. "change the way you look at things and the things you look at change"

    ***edit sorry I thought you said 2k a week not a month lol

    I am worried about finding a significant other that doesn't mind me dancing. I know everyone always says the right guy won't care but 1. I'm having a hard time finding the right guy and 2. Most guys honestly aren't ok with it long term. There is a guy I really like right now and if things don't work out with him then I'm definitely considering dancing full time again.
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    My exit plan is to own a business, either an arts based business (crafts, photography,etc) or do bookeeping for small businesses. I would like to write a book about my experience in the industry and how to succeed, but that would take a lot of luck so I dont want to get my hopes up too high. For now, I just want to save money and focus on starting my next career. I would like to get married and when I do, I would never dance again.

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    Nope.


    I am speaking to a counsellor to sort out my direction though. On the plus side, I do have a skillset from being a dancer which could be formidable in the right setting.
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    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by miss1dancypants View Post
    I've been out of dancing full time for about 2 years, while previously dancing almost 4 years. I'm 25 now. I've been pretty miserable and miss my dancing life & lifestyle. My biggest fear is turning 35 and not being hot any more and being single with no solid exit plan.
    I'm living in my exit plan. I got an education, danced full time for a bit to take a break, and joined the workforce. I know what you mean...I kind of miss the dancing days. I kept up more with my appearance and just the thrill of it all, fast cash, making a show on stage, I don't know how to explain it. I guess I felt like a diva. I had some great times and I definitely feel nostalgic for the club. I never used to listen to mainstream pop music that they always played in the club, but now I find myself always listening to them in my car on the radio whenever I'm driving.

    But, it's possible to have your cake and eat it too. You can get a regular job and dance once or twice a week at the right club that lets you. I did this for a long time and loved it. I'll most likely continue doing this for as long as I can.

    First having the guaranteed paycheck is nice, so you don't feel so desperate on slow nights at the club. And whenever I had good nights at the club, I had extra spending money to spend on stupid stuff.

    I also put up with way less bullshit from the customers because I know I don't need to rely on dancing. I don't need them. And because dancing offered the earnings to get a good education, and eventually a decent job, I know that I most likely make more than them even with my regular job. So whenever I start hearing any bullshit I have no qualms about getting up and walking away from customers mid-sentence if necessary. I can afford to blow off customers that annoy me just because I can, and have less of an obligation to try and hustle them.

    I don't know if what you mean is, you got a job and dance less often now. You'll be a lot happier, I think, with a higher paying job that you can obtain by investing in an education that dancing can afford you.

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    I have multiple exit plan options. Not planning to dance full time for any longer than MAYBE another year, if that. Goals from dancing are to pay off my last credit card, then going to either put a down payment on a house (a cheap fixer upper, so the mortgage is like $300, which will drop my cost of living to near nothing), or use the savings to live on while in grad school.
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    Yeah I have an IRA for retirement but I need to contribute to it more so I can retire sooner and on the lifestyle I want. I also have a second line of income.
    “Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”

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    If you save 2k a month you'll have a pretty penny when you're done. Put it aside and don't touch it till you're ready to retire from dancing. You'll have $240,00 by the time you're 35, not including interest. Then use that money to start your next career. Invest it in a business or stocks and bonds. Buy a house, rent it out and be a landlord. Pay for tuition for school to learn the ropes of your dream career. Start a business. Hell, open a pole dancing studio. Whatever you want! If you save money now, your exit plan doesn't have to be perfectly lined up, you've got plenty of time to iron out the details. Just SAVE!!!

    The more you save the more choices you'll have for what to do next. If you're a high earner and really diligent about saving you could retire early. $1700 saved a week is about a million dollars after ten years of dancing.
    Absolutely true. With such an exit plan, the eventual 'exit' will be into a true retirement ... since the ongoing passive interest, dividend and capital gains earnings stemming from the saved up 'nest egg' will be enough to cover normal living expenses for the rest of your life without an unescapable need to earn additional money from any sort of 'straight' job.

    In 'real world' terms, you're probably right that a total of US $ 1,000,000 worth of 'nest egg' savings will be necessary these days to generate a comfortable $ 40,000 per year or so of passive future annual income after retiring from dancing. But being able to save $1,000 per week from age 18 to age 35 would yield a $ 1,000,000 'nest egg', even at today's terribly low interest rates. And even saving $500 per week for the same period of time would still yield a $ 500,000 'nest egg' capable of providing a minimal $20,000 per year of passive future annual income ... which in turn would provide 'flexibility' in regard to the pay requirements of any future straight job or business endeavor.

    Since I myself started dancing rather 'late', and also had a son whom I had to provide for, I was not able to save as much as I would have liked to by the point where I decided to retire from live dancing. However, I addressed that problem from the opposite direction, moving to a country 'way south of the border' which has both a significantly lower cost of living, as well as zero taxation of my passive income. I have also been 'lucky' with some of my investments, thus able to achieve a passive earnings percentage that was significantly higher than the 'safe' 4%. As such, even after paying for several years of retirement living expenses, my 'nest egg' is larger today than it was when I retired.
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    Save and invest as much money as I can over a few years, so that I can A) Make a little nest egg, and B) Go back to college without having to work. I'll get a Bachelor's in multimedia or web development with a focus in mobile apps (solid up-and-coming career with very few trained professionals available). Then I can spend the rest of my life doing freelance work and/or media startups, or get hired part-time by a corporation (since I don't have the health to work full-time). And meanwhile, as I'm dancing, I'm going to start teaching myself programming languages and also work a lot on my artwork, so I can get a headstart in the field and possibly create a nice creative portfolio as well. I'm going to keep my eggs in a few different baskets until one seems more promising.

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    I want to work with crocodiles.
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    If I were you I'd start now. You never know when burn out will strike or you get injured/sick and can't dance.. Enroll in school even for a certificate program so you have another skill to fall back on, or start a little part time business that you can grow over time. I started flipping things on amazon and ebay-mostly toys and games-but you could really do anything. Or you could make clips and sell them on clips4sale for passive income. Start setting up multiple streams of income for yourself or at least save/invest.

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    I'm studying nursing and will obtain my RN within 2 years. So I should be completely out of the sex industry in less than 2 years.

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    Actually, if you're worried about your age and want to get a degree without doing the four years, here are some ideas:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagou...helors-degree/

    I think this list is even better:
    http://allhealthcare.monster.com/car...-degree?page=1

    I was in a similar situation when I was 25, I was following a different career path and had to change. It's not the end of the world if you're starting later.

    You just have to keep in mind sometimes getting a job with these degrees will take time, or you should be open to moving to an area where there are more of those jobs. I didn't want to wait around and moved twice for my jobs, but in the end I know that with the experience I'll have, I can move around more freely to areas that I want to settle down and can negotiate experience pay and a higher salary.

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    Become a politician, lol.





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    I'm currently in college so my current plan is to dance as my primary job as I get my degree whilst slowly replacing dancing with internships and such. The ideal situation is that I'll dance until the day I get a full-time job that will financially support me/take up my time.

    If worst comes to worst, my boyfriend will have a good job and I can just be a housewife while I look for something else to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss1dancypants View Post
    I am worried about finding a significant other that doesn't mind me dancing. I know everyone always says the right guy won't care but 1. I'm having a hard time finding the right guy and 2. Most guys honestly aren't ok with it long term.

    I think that the idea that "most guys aren't okay with it long term" is a limiting belief system that is keeping you from meeting guys that ARE okay with it long term. Plenty of the dancers I work with are married and have been dancing for 5+ years, so men like that do exist in the world, the problem is finding them. If you change your belief system to one that says "there are plenty of great guys out there that are supportive of my job" you'll start attracting those kind of men into your life. I would highly recommend the book You Can Heal Your Life for more info about this! It has changed my life. I used to have tons of negative beliefs about how fucked up men were and ~surprise~ i was only attracting fucked up men because I believed thats all that existed. When I started changing my beliefs, I started attracting men that mirrored those beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttonpop View Post
    I think that the idea that "most guys aren't okay with it long term" is a limiting belief system that is keeping you from meeting guys that ARE okay with it long term. Plenty of the dancers I work with are married and have been dancing for 5+ years, so men like that do exist in the world, the problem is finding them. If you change your belief system to one that says "there are plenty of great guys out there that are supportive of my job" you'll start attracting those kind of men into your life. I would highly recommend the book You Can Heal Your Life for more info about this! It has changed my life. I used to have tons of negative beliefs about how fucked up men were and ~surprise~ i was only attracting fucked up men because I believed thats all that existed. When I started changing my beliefs, I started attracting men that mirrored those beliefs.
    Yep, completely true! The first guy I date while I was considering auditioning was totally fine with it, and he was from a very good family and worked for the government. The whole time we were together, my job never bothered him. I've met many other men since who feel the same way, even some who think it's pretty cool. I think upper middle class guys can be impressed by a woman who's willing to go above and beyond to secure her future and get an education. My ex used to say he was impressed by how brave I was to be a stripper.

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    Actually, if you're worried about your age and want to get a degree without doing the four years, here are some ideas:


    I think this list is even better:
    Not wanting to drag this thread off topic, but one of Monster's supposed Top 10 jobs only requiring an associate's degree happens to be my own specialty ... Respiratory Therapy. During one of my recent visits back to the states I happened to run across one of the respiratory therapists I had worked with in a metro NY hospital back in the 90's ( before I started dancing ). We talked about what had changed since then. My former co-worker, with 20+ years of seniority, now has a semi-supervisory full time position on day shift ( one of only four full time respiratory therapy positions in the hospital ) and is only required to work a few weekends and holidays. Pay rate has increased from around $20 an hour in the 90's to something like $30 an hour today.

    However, where newly hired respiratory therapists are concerned, it's apparently a different story. Every new hire is now a part-time position without employee benefits, limited to an average 28 hours per week ( with my former co-worker's hospital now having 18 part-time respiratory therapists ). Every new hire is expected to work nights, weekends and holidays. Rather than covering hospital employee sick days etc. with overtime for other part-time employees, the hospital calls in 'temp agency' personnel. As such, the weekly take home paycheck for a newly hired respiratory therapist today isn't much different than it was back in the 90's, while the benefits are far worse ( and it goes without saying that 'costs of living' are now far higher ).

    Some newly hired respiratory therapists attempt to supplement their part-time incomes by also working for a 'temp agency' ... but this can be problematic because they never know which ( if any, or perhaps all ) of the 'days off' from their regular respiratory therapy job they'll be called on to work as a 'temp', nor which shift, nor which hospital. A few have attempted to be hired at two part-time jobs in different hospitals, but the area hospitals apparently communicate with each other to try to avoid hiring persons in such circumstances ( the probability of missed work, 'mistakes' being made on the job etc. apparently become concerns for both hospitals )

    The reason for sharing this 'anecdote', of course, is to point out that it's necessary to fully research the present working conditions which are likely to apply to jobs requiring associate's degrees or certificates these days.
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    If you want a SO that's cool with it do what I did: get em young and malleable.
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    My exit plan will be to stop dancing once I get my degrees. I'm working on my bachelor's (still), then going my law degree and MBA in a dual-degree program, so I probably won't be done until I'm 29 or 30. I will not dance past 30 though - not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just my exit plan.

    I will also stop dancing when I get married. So whichever happens first, grad degrees or marriage, will be when I retire from dancing.
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    Finish my degree, go back into the military but as a reservist and get a job with the federal government. Leave dancing with enough money for a fat payment for a home so that my monthly mortgage is manageable with my new income and no other debts.


    Anyone ever watched Trainspotting? These threads remind me of "Choose Life" In the end I choose life, just a basic ass normal mid-size town life. Fuck all this crazy Miami shit.

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