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    I work at clips4sale but am not doing very well. My husband recently lost his business. I have health problems that keep me from being able to work outside of the home. my husband just got a job but he is not making very much. we are seriously thinking that was two children we need some state assistance until we can get back on our feet. I am very concerned because I don't know what to tell state assistance what I do. I know I am self employed but I do receive a paycheck. but I don't know what to tell them where the paycheck comes from and if they want to speak to them. and I don't want them to say how are you self-employed and get a paycheck . I just don't know what to do I can't chance loosing my kids but I need to take care of them. has anyone else had this problem? can anybody help please?.
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    You would be self employed. They wouldn't need to talk to anyone at C4S, they are just a middle man processing your payments. Bank statements/ taxes should be good enough if they want to know your previous income if you don't have you check stubs. This thread will only apply if you are in the US and needing assistance:

    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ent+assistance

    Don't worry about them wondering why you get a check even though you are self employed. How else would a person get paid? Just say you do web design or something.

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    For better or worse, different US states have entirely different attitudes in regard to mothers working in the 'adult entertainment' industry to help support their children. 'Blue' states generally look upon such work as a positive contribution, and don't try to hold it against the working mom in any way because her 'adult entertainment' related paycheck actually saves state taxpayers money. But 'Red' states may look upon adult entertainment industry work by a mom, and particularly adult industry related work done from the home where children may potentially be exposed to 'adult' content, as a 'risky' environment for the children.

    Also, as a side effect of the ACA law, if you are approved for public assistance / ( expanded ) Medicaid, you may now be subject to an in-home inspection by a gov't investigator. That can be dicey if you leave an area of your home set up for camming all the time. Again, some states are more diligent about in-home inspections than others.

    Also, another side effect could be that operating a business out of your home violates local zoning laws. And the zoning laws for adult businesses can be fairly strict. Again the nature of such zoning laws, the degree of enforcement, and the likelihood of a gov't investigator reporting an adult business zoning violation, varies a lot from state to state and city to city.
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    Aurora 14 thank you so much! I will read the link to the thread you sent me. yes I'll try to have to figure something out. I would love to say web design but for me it seems like when I say I do something I know nothing about somebody always wants me to do it for them! lol I'm a really bad liar so maybe that's why they asked me questions. thank you again so much!

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    Melonie, thank you so much! that's kind of scary unfortunately I am in a red state :-( but if they came in for a home inspection they wouldn't find anything I have a building that I purchased that I have set up outside of my house and that is where I do my videos and my husband stays inside with the children. so everything is out there in that shed it's quite handy actually. it stays locked all the time and my husband and I are the only ones that have keys to it.again thank you so much :-)

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    ^^^ then it sounds like you don't have a whole lot to worry about, as long as the paperwork you need to show social services doesn't have the name of a big time adult industry related company printed on it.

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    I didn't realize that social services would be the one coming in to do the inspection. I've never had to be on welfare before so I guess there's no reason to start now I'll just try to work harder. that's just too scary for me.

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    ^^^ it's often a contractor hired by the federal gov't dep't of HHS who does home inspections. From a HHS press release ...

    (snip)Research has shown that home visiting programs can improve outcomes for children and families, including improving maternal and child health, reducing child maltreatment, increasing parental employment, and improving the rate at which children reach developmental milestones. HHS undertook an exhaustive review of the research evidence on different home visiting programs to identify the models that have been shown to work.

    The PPACA defines high-risk households as:

    • Low-income eligible families.
    • Eligible families who are pregnant women who have not attained age 21.
    • Eligible families that have a history of child abuse or neglect or have had interactions with child welfare services.
    • Eligible families that have a history of substance abuse or need substance abuse treatment.
    • Eligible families that have users of tobacco products in the home.
    • Eligible families that are or have children with low student achievement.
    • Eligible families with children with developmental delays or disabilities.
    • Eligible families who, or that include individuals who, are serving or formerly served in the Armed Forces(snip)

    Again there nothing saying that signing up for soclal welfare benefits or expanded Medicaid will automatically result in an in-home inspection. But it is a possible result. It's also possible to refuse such an in-home inspection, but I have no idea what the 'consequences' of doing so actually are.
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    Thank you! Great information. Hopefully I can just pull myself out of my financial difficulties I'm in right now and I wont have to seek their help.

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    If you are just applying for food stamps and medical they don't do a home inspection. You would only get a home inspection if someone actually called Child Protective Services.

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    Ok. Thank you. that's what I was afraid of if they figured out where my checks came from said someone there might call.and you never can tell what someone else might do I guess that's just part of life. just very scary none the less.

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    You would only get a home inspection if someone actually called Child Protective Services.
    Not wanting to be argumentative, but that is no longer true. Signing up for social services and ( expanded ) Medicaid, plus having children in the household, can now prompt an in-home inspection ( without any input from a 3rd party ) because the family falls into one of the high-risk categories I listed above. Again, I'm not saying that this will automatically happen in every case. But it is a possibility.

    Note that these in-home inspections are not being driven by local govt's or by local social services agencies themselves, but instead by 'new' federal money under the dep't of HHS. I'm a bit reluctant to get into this in any detail, but ...

    (snip)In 2011, the HHS announced $224 million will be given to support evidence-based home visiting programs to “help parents and children.” Individuals from the state will implement these leveraging strategies to “enhance program sustainability.”

    Constitutional attorney and author Kent Masterson Brown states,

    “This is not a “voluntary” program. The eligible entity receiving the grant for performing the home visits is to identify the individuals to be visited and intervene so as to meet the improvement benchmarks(snip)

    (snip)Part of the program will require massive data collecting of private information including all sources of income and the amount gathered from each source.(snip)


    Hopefully I can just pull myself out of my financial difficulties I'm in right now and I wont have to seek their help.
    That would certainly keep you 'under the radar'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post

    (snip)In 2011, the HHS announced $224 million will be given to support evidence-based home visiting programs to “help parents and children.” Individuals from the state will implement these leveraging strategies to “enhance program sustainability.”

    Constitutional attorney and author Kent Masterson Brown states,

    “This is not a “voluntary” program. The eligible entity receiving the grant for performing the home visits is to identify the individuals to be visited and intervene so as to meet the improvement benchmarks(snip)

    (snip)Part of the program will require massive data collecting of private information including all sources of income and the amount gathered from each source.(snip)
    Where is the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Not wanting to be argumentative, but that is no longer true. Signing up for social services and ( expanded ) Medicaid, plus having children in the household, can now prompt an in-home inspection ( without any input from a 3rd party ) because the family falls into one of the high-risk categories I listed above. Again, I'm not saying that this will automatically happen in every case. But it is a possibility.

    Note that these in-home inspections are not being driven by local govt's or by local social services agencies themselves, but instead by 'new' federal money under the dep't of HHS. I'm a bit reluctant to get into this in any detail, but ...

    (snip)In 2011, the HHS announced $224 million will be given to support evidence-based home visiting programs to “help parents and children.” Individuals from the state will implement these leveraging strategies to “enhance program sustainability.”

    Constitutional attorney and author Kent Masterson Brown states,

    “This is not a “voluntary” program. The eligible entity receiving the grant for performing the home visits is to identify the individuals to be visited and intervene so as to meet the improvement benchmarks(snip)

    (snip)Part of the program will require massive data collecting of private information including all sources of income and the amount gathered from each source.(snip)

    That would certainly keep you 'under the radar'.
    Idk. I hear what you are saying Melonie, but right now 15% of households in America are on SNAP and an even higher % are receiving healthcare subsidies for their children. I don't know what type of aid the OP intends to seek, but I have to imagine that it would be impractical for states to run home examination programs that cover anything close to that broad a population. There has to be some way for states to target higher risk households, such as reports of problems or the identification of other high risk indicators.

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    ^^^ you're probably correct. Even though ( about $400 million dollars per year of ) HHS federal funding has allowed state agencies to hire more people to conduct in-home inspections, undoubtedly they can't inspect every single household that applies for social welfare benefits and/or Medicaid. HHS laid out the list of 'high risk' households ( which I posted above ), which I assume serves as the basis for some sort of prioritization. And for the third time, I never said that signing up for social welfare or Medicaid benefits will now automatically result in an in-home inspection ... only that such an in-home inspection is now possible ( without a need for 3rd party complaints etc ).


    Where is the link?
    I deliberately omitted posting a link because of the potentially 'controversial' nature of the topic, instead confining the material I posted to snippets having direct relevance to the OP's situation. However, I'm sure that if you do a bit of internet searching for 'Kent Masterson Brown in-home inspections' you'll turn up a wide array of material ( and a whole lot of political content that is inappropriate for this forum ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Also, as a side effect of the ACA law, if you are approved for public assistance / ( expanded ) Medicaid, you may now be subject to an in-home inspection by a gov't investigator. That can be dicey if you leave an area of your home set up for camming all the time. Again, some states are more diligent about in-home inspections than others.
    The Affordable Care Act (ACA) has nothing to do with welfare. When a person signs up for ACA it is because they have a job and no health insurance. They are not signing up for Medicaid. The medicaid expansion money goes to the states for tax credits. There IS NOT a home inspection part of ACA.

    Food Assistance programs are also seperate from medical programs like Medicaid. Just because you are accepted for one doesnt mean you will be for the other.

    I grew up on welfare. Alot has changed but some things havent. My advice is to go to the welfare office and get the paperwork to fill out. You dont have to tell them what you do at the first meeting.
    But on the paperwork it will tell you what you need to submit. Just because you get the paperwork doesnt mean you have to fill it out. But it will give you more information about what would happen if you did than asking us.
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    Thank you vamp. I have just never done this before and was really nervous.so I was curious if anybody else had been in the same boat as I am and what they had done. I'm just concerned if they would pursue the issue of where my check came from. thank you for all you ladies help.

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    ^^^ obviously, here comes the nitpicking. Please note my use of 'side effect' of the ACA law, not 'direct consequence' of the ACA law. The 'side effect' is that signing up for ( expanded ) Medicaid under ACA state health insurance exchanges identifies the applicant to state social services agencies as being 'low income' ... one of the 'high risk' criteria under PPACA which can lead to an in-home inspection. However, the creation of expanded Medicaid was indeed a direct result of the ACA.

    When a person signs up for ACA it is because they have a job and no health insurance. They are not signing up for Medicaid. The medicaid expansion money goes to the states for tax credits
    Nope, not true. If the person signs up for ACA health insurance coverage, and has a total income below 133% of the Federal Poverty Level, they will automatically be referred to expanded Medicaid rather than ACA compliant private health insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Where is the link?
    She didnt provide a link because it doesnt prove her point. It isnt an inspection program. If you google the text of what she posted you get websites about this.

    "Home visiting is a prevention strategy used to support pregnant moms and new parents to promote infant and child health, foster educational development and school readiness, and help prevent child abuse and neglect.Participation is voluntary. Home visitors may be trained nurses, social workers or child development specialists. "

    http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-s...5399078.aspx#1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Nope, not true. If the person signs up for ACA health insurance coverage, and has a total income below 133% of the Federal Poverty Level, they will automatically be referred to expanded Medicaid rather than ACA compliant private health insurance.
    I have helped people sign up for ACA. They do not sign up for Medicaid. Signing up for Medicaid is a totally seperate process.
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    ^^^ yup I should have known better than to even raise this topic ... and should have allowed the OP to perhaps find out the hard way about today's in-home inspection programs. I obviously can't respond further to any of this without violating the politics ban.

    However, I can safely point out that Vamp's state of Missouri is one of a comparative handful of states that did NOT implement expanded Medicaid ... see ... and as such is one of a comparative handful of states where ACA applicants with incomes below 133% of the FPL will not be automatically referred to expanded Medicaid.

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    Giving people information shouldnt and does not have to include politics. Conspiracy therories are not information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ yup I should have known better than to even raise this topic ... and should have allowed the OP to perhaps find out the hard way about today's in-home inspection programs. I obviously can't respond further to any of this without violating the politics ban.

    However, I can safely point out that Vamp's state of Missouri is one of a comparative handful of states that did NOT implement expanded Medicaid ... see http://www.hannibal.net/article/20150430/NEWS/150439925 ... and as such is one of a comparative handful of states where ACA applicants with incomes below 133% of the FPL will not be automatically referred to expanded Medicaid.
    I did not grow up in Missouri and those I helped sign up for ACA are not in Missouri.

    In addition the OP is talking about welfare benifits. She would not go to the ACA website to sign up for welfare anyway.
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    Also, the OP said she lives in a red state, so there's a good chance her state didn't include the Medicaid expansion.

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    Could you list yourself as "independent contractor," show bank statements, and leave it there? I mean, lots of more mainstream jobs (housecleaning, child-care/nanny, tutoring, catering, bar-tending, gardening, promotions) also can get paid in cash.

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