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    I've been on a journey toward smooth, clear, acne-free skin these past few weeks. My skin has always been very red, very oily in the T-zone, dry spots, with 4-8 pimples at time, and dozens more of those under the skin bumps that don't head to a full blown pimple, are unpoppable, and generally annoying.

    Several weeks into my new routine later, my skin has lost 75% of its redness, all the under-the-skin bumps are gone, and i'm down to 2-4 pimples, with hopes for more progress. My skin has never looked so even or smooth before! Now if I could get my remaining pimples under control and the remaining redness down a little.

    Here are the things I've done so far:

    1. Wash my face in the morning with water only. Cleansing 2x a day was making my skin oily I think. Some people swear by cold water washing to keep the face firm and youthful... maybe I'll start doing this when I live in a warmer climate where my bathroom isn't freezing too. For now, I wash my face in the shower and rub Jojoba Oil into my skin while my pores are open from the steam. I believe this helps with oil production too, look up oil cleansing for more info. Gently pat face dry. Remember, any extra irritation causes pimples to form, so you want to be gentle anytime you touch your face.

    2. Eliminate ALL silicone (including dimethicone) products. I had to throw away my toner, my moisturizer, and this was the big one-- my primers. Within a week of eliminating these, 90% of my under the skin bumps were gone. All those unpoppable little zits that would never come to a full head finally disappeared. I stopped using toner completely, found a silicone free primer (Tarte's Flawless Silicone Free-- i love it!), but am still looking for the right moisturizer (Jojoba oil isn't quite moisturizing enough).

    3. At night, I remove my eye makeup with Coconut Oil. Put a glob on a cotton ball and hold over your eye for 10 seconds and then wipe away gently. Make sure you don't get any coconut oil on the rest of your face -- I made that mistake early on and broke out badly. It should be fine on your eye area only though, especially if you wash your face right after.

    4. I use baby shampoo to gently wash off the rest of my make up.

    5. Here's my favorite new product so far: Likas Papaya soap. This phillipino whitening soap is AMAZING. You can buy it online, but make sure you get the real stuff because apparently people try to switch it out for fakes a lot. I bought mine at a local asian foods store. The real stuff should smell faintly of oranges, not any chemical smell, and the package has a hologram thing on it. This stuff is responsible for getting rid of almost all my redness. It can fade acne scars, rosacea, and other hyperpigmentation. It also has a chemical exfoliant. It does dry your skin out at first, but my skin got used to it within a couple weeks. My skin has never been less red.

    6. AHA (Glycolic Acid) is another chemical exfoliant. I use Paula's Choice. Then I use a spot treatment of Salicylic Acid on any significant pimples and benzoyl peroxide on an acne-prone areas like around my mouth, or any areas that have tiny pimples. I just use a cheap drugstore brand for these two.

    I'm still looking for a good moisturizer that doesn't break me out or have silicone/dimethicone in it. It seems like mineral oil based moisturizers are too heavy and break me out. Jojoba oil is great but doesn't moisturize enough on dry patches, but is good enough for places that only need a little moisture.

    I'm hoping to get my few remaining pimples under control, a little more results with decreased rednessed, and then the only problem i'll have is dark circles under my eyes. Then I wont even need foundation! I've never felt better about my skin. This is coming from somebody who used to sneak off to the bathroom in the morning to put foundation on after adult sleepovers for fear of people seeing my bad skin.

    Hopefully this info can be put to good use by somebody else. If you have a moisturizer recommendation, let me have it!

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    these are my favorite moisturizers - they never make me break out or feel heavy - a bit pricey but so worth it


    http://usa.loccitane.com/immortelle-...206,262423.htm

    http://usa.loccitane.com/angelica-ul...18.htm#s=29427

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    Well, I need mostly anti aging prods. However, my nose is oily, & can get blackheads if I don't keep up w/separate skin care for it. Soo, I use Neutrogena Acne wash, maybe once/twice a week (it has a built in scrub in it)
    Also I just bought today Biore self heat 1 min mask (4 minis in a pk). I literally got the last one, it sells super fast @ Ulta.


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    The absolute best way to clear your skin is to change your diet. Everything that you do topically (as in superficially) is akin to using a band-aid, without addressing the underlying problem.

    Sure, makeup can clog the pores, but what's the problem with clogged pores? Clogged pores are only a problem when your body is discharging something, pushing something out, and the clogged pores prevent this and then the dreaded inflammation occurs (acne).

    So, you can keep your pores super unclogged...ok, that's a good idea....but that's only a part of the real problem. The real issue is what your skin is pushing out, or attempting to push out rather.

    So what is your body discharging through your face? Dairy is a HUGE culprit, but also excess sugars, bad quality oils (canola, soy oil, etc), and chemicals that have been ingested (drugs, alcohol, artificial additives, preservatives, fake sugars, pesticides in foods, etc).

    So, until you change your diet you will see maybe some acceptable results but probably not what you are looking for.

    Something you can do right now in the meantime is body scrubs. In the shower take a cotton rag, wring it out so it's a little dry, and rub it all over your body, face, to fingertips, to toes, until your skin gets pink/red. Your skin might not get red until the 5th or 6th day of doing this. What this is doing is increasing circulation and encouraging discharge to occur at a more even pace through all of the pores of your body. It will also clean your pores and give you SUPER soft skin after a week or two.

    Dark circles under the eyes are from kidney tightness which has it's origins in both dehydration, and an excess of iodized salt in the diet, also excess alcohol/drugs.

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    If you haven't already, check your haircare products for silicones. If it's on your hair, it's gonna get on your face, too.

    Seconding Nikki_Fox's Immortelle recommendation. It's really miraculous for the well-rested, dewy glow it creates.

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    I've had moderate acne since I was 12. I tried everything save for accutane, which I went on birth control for, but never wound up taking. I found acne.org which suggests using a gentle wash like cetaphil and treating your skin with 2.5% benzoyl peroxide and using a gentle moisturizer like cetaphil. I was totally apprehensive about it because I had tried both proactiv and another skin care system that used 10% benzoyl peroxide. But I figured that so many people on the site had success with it, so I tried it out. To my surprise, it TOTALLY WORKED. You have to be really consistent with it in order to get clear skin. But I think it's totally worth it. You don't have to buy from the site or anything; you can get 2.5% benzoyl peroxide at any drugstore that sells neutrogena. It's the "acne spot treatment." Instead of using it on your spots, use a little bit all over and let it dry before following up with a mild moisturizer. It's really that simple. The website-- acne.org has tons of videos to get you started. I wouldn't be pushing this as hard, but I got clear skin with it after 12 years of acne. I hope that you get clear skin with it to; it's totally life-changing.

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    I'm just going to throw this post in here too (yes, it's super super long, but I know back when I had acne, I'd read through pages of information just hoping to get some insight into how to improve my skin). Skin problems fucking suck, so if my post helps even one person find something that helps them out - even if it's just a tiny tidbit of advice - it's worth it to me. I wrote this for a user who was asking about my experiences with spironolactone, so there's a bit about that, but it's mostly about what works for me these days...

    I stopped taking spiro years ago simply because I wanted to see how I'd do without it, and I haven't had any problems since then. I used spironolactone as a stepping stone towards better skin, eating, and exercise habits. It helped me stop picking at my acne, which helped inspire me to take better and better care of my skin. I took it for a few years and then went off of it permanently (I didn't experience any withdrawal breakouts). These days, right before my period starts, I have a few days where my skin breaks out lightly / looks a bit more irritated (especially if my diet that month wasn't the cleanest), but I'm otherwise acne-free.

    Regarding buying spironolactone on alldaychemist's website: I can't remember what dosage I used. For people who are new to using spiro, I'd start with the 25 mg and see if that has a positive effect on your skin (give it a month or two before bumping up your dosage). Acne.org has some great information about spironolactone: http://www.acne.org/women-and-acne.html (scroll to the bottom for information and reviews about spironolactone). PLEASE do your research before beginning this medication without consulting a doctor. I do NOT recommend doing this. Be especially cautious if you're taking other medications - research drug interactions before you start taking it. But if you're desperate, then I can understand the drive to do anything to improve your skin (especially if your appearance is your livelihood).

    As for general advice about skin, I would say that changing your diet and getting plenty of exercise should be your focus. Healthy skin starts on the inside, so if you change anything, change your diet and exercise routines. Minimize processed sugars and try to figure out if anything you eat tends to break you out (e.g. dairy). Eat fish and and lean meats, lots of greens and vegetables, whole grains, fruits, and drink lots of water. You might consider taking a fish-oil supplement for general health (I use this: http://www.amazon.com/OmegaVia-Pharm...1726623&sr=8-1) and supplementing with other vitamins as well (B-complex, zinc, iron, vitamin E, vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin C). Go easy on fat-soluble vitamins since they build up in your system (D, E, K, and A), and always take your vitamins with food. I've read that N-acetylcysteine can be good for people with grooming disorders (e.g. skin picking) among other things, and I just started taking it for its range of potential benefits (study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3044191/) (what I take: http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natural...1726567&sr=8-3).

    As for skin care, different things work for different people. I'm not sure if what I do now would have worked for me when I was a bit younger...I've refined my routine over the years (I'm 26 now). I only wash my face twice a day. If I wore makeup during the day, I wash my face in cold water with Philosophy's Purity Made Simple (which removes makeup). If I didn't wear makeup, then I only wash with Neutrogena's Ultra-Gentle Cleanser, which is even more gentle than the Philosophy cleanser (http://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Gen...1726732&sr=8-1). I moisturize with organic jojoba and rosehip oils (http://www.amazon.com/Unrefined-Revi...1726773&sr=8-1), as well as a night cream made by Eucerin. I vary what I use and when based on whether I'll be wearing makeup, whether it's day or night, etc. I also use Retin-A from alldaychemist 3-4x/week, and I exfoliate 1-2x/week using Olay's mini-peel (http://www.amazon.com/Olay-Regeneris...1726807&sr=8-1).

    When I get acne, I put clay on it (http://www.amazon.com/Aztec-Secret-I...1726839&sr=1-1). Rather than punishing my skin when it breaks out, I treat it like it's an upset baby. I'm not sure if that makes any sense! But I used to do very harsh things to my skin whenever it would break out - applying benzoyl peroxide, acid peels, etc. - and now whenever it breaks out, I go into ultra-careful mode: I start eating more vegetables, make sure to keep it moisturized rather than drying it out, focus on treating individual spots rather than putting a mask on my whole face, etc.

    My advice works for me and may work for others. Please don't feel as if I'm prescribing my skin-care routine to everyone. Different approaches work for different people, and I am not a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaninchen View Post
    If you haven't already, check your haircare products for silicones. If it's on your hair, it's gonna get on your face, too.
    I have tossed out all my silicone hair products too. I'm currently on the hunt for a silicone free conditioner that still has "slip"-- that feeling after you condition your hair where you hands just glide through tangles. I'm trying out a new brand tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Natalya View Post
    So, until you change your diet you will see maybe some acceptable results but probably not what you are looking for.

    Something you can do right now in the meantime is body scrubs. In the shower take a cotton rag, wring it out so it's a little dry, and rub it all over your body, face, to fingertips, to toes, until your skin gets pink/red. Your skin might not get red until the 5th or 6th day of doing this. What this is doing is increasing circulation and encouraging discharge to occur at a more even pace through all of the pores of your body. It will also clean your pores and give you SUPER soft skin after a week or two.

    Dark circles under the eyes are from kidney tightness which has it's origins in both dehydration, and an excess of iodized salt in the diet, also excess alcohol/drugs.
    I am a pretty healthy eater, but I am guilty of eating a lot of dairy. Maybe I should cut down on this and see what happens.

    I have those rough gloves for shower scrubs that I use often and I love them! I would never use them on my face though. Irritation will cause the clogged pores to turn into full blown pimples. Thats why those apricot scrubs that everyone seems to love are actually terrible for your skin. I actually am often distrustful of skin care brands if they sell a product similar to this.

    As far as the dark circles go, that one is still a mystery. I drink TONS of water, my pee is always nearly clear. I don't salt my food at all. And I don't drink or consume any drugs, at all. Maybe my problem isn't actually dark circles, but just discolored skin, because even my eyelids are darker than the rest of my face.


    Before I started my new regimen above, I was doing the acne.org regimen for years, and while it did keep the worst breakouts at bay, it didn't get rid of my breakouts completely, I still had TONS of redness, and it did nothing for the tiny under-the-skin bumps that silicones were giving me. \

    Thank you for the suggestions on moisturizers. I'll update everyone when I find the right one.

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    edited: links should be good to go now.

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    On the topic of dairy - I haven't done any strict elimination diets or anything. But my skin seems to react poorly to hard cheeses and doesn't seem to react to softer cheeses. Which is great, because I feel like I can eat low-fat cottage cheese (a fantastic snack for me) without any negative repercussions.

    I also get the sense that bread doesn't break me out, but it seems to make my skin a bit more red / irritated-looking. I haven't confirmed that yet. Things like whole-wheat pita and tortillas don't seem to have the same effect, but if I start having whole-grain bread with sandwiches every day, that seems to redden my skin. But who the fuck knows, really...

    Skin stuff is sooooo crazy. You can really drive yourself insane questioning whether or not x, y, and z are messing with your skin. If you're getting serious about trying to figure out what actually does affect your skin, start by tracking your periods and marking the days when your skin looks particularly irritated. It helped me a ton to realize that, no matter what I do, my skin will always look a bit less than ideal a few days before my period starts, but that it clears up quickly if I just leave it alone during that time. Next, start marking down whenever you eat an unusual food that's not normally part of your routine (e.g. "went out for ice cream," or "wine & cheese night"). Then forget about what you wrote down, and the next time you have a breakout, check to see if it correlates with anything you ate in the last week, or if it's just your standard pre-period breakout, etc.

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    If you're looking for a cheaper moisturizer with sunscreen for day wear, Aveeno's products have never broken me out: http://www.amazon.com/Aveeno-Positiv...1727554&sr=8-1

    Sorry for posting so much. I'm very passionate about skin stuff because I know how horrible it feels when your skin is unhappy. It can turn a good day into a day where all you're thinking about is that one zit on your forehead, or whatever. I remember how in high school, I used to walk along the edges of the hallway rather than straight down the middle, just because I felt so insecure about my skin. I feel like I'm finally getting the hang of how to take care of it.

    I'd almost go so far as to say that, in a way, those of us who are more prone to acne are lucky, in that we are highly motivated to clean up our diets and exercise routines, which is great for your overall health, too. It's easy for me to turn down a break-room cookie / donut when the stakes are so high (do I really want to munch on some shitty cookie for five minutes, only to have it show up on my face in a week?). Now, when I indulge, I do so when it's really worth it to me.

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    You're not alone, everybody eats too much dairy. Dairy is a major factor in acne, especially cultured/fermented dairy like cheese. These are great dairy substitutes that are actually very good.

    Milk: Rice milk, Almond milk, Hemp milk (not soy), vanilla, chocolate, or original
    Cheeze: Soya Kaas Cheese(s), Soya Kaas Cream Cheese, Daiya (or add nut or seed butters -mixed with some soy sauce- to dishes for a surprisingly satisfying cheezy effect)
    Amazake (all kinds) found at health food stores, so delicious like a milkshake, made from rice...it's sake before it gets so fermented that it turns into alcohol.
    Vegenaise (grapeseed oil kind) the most amazing tasty mayo like creamy stuff ever, made from grapeseed oil.

    I used all of these liberally while weaning myself off dairy for about 2 years. Now I am totally satisfied without it- something I never ever thought was possible.

    Regarding rough gloves used on face causing irritation and then acne...
    True! The irritation turns into tiny scabs which blocks the pimple more effectively than a regular clogged pore. However a cotton cloth is much less abrasive and is safe to use on the face with moderate pressure (not on any broken skin though!)

    Regarding dark eye circles...
    Clear pee means you have enough water. However, sometimes too much sugary drinks can cause this darkening eye effect too (like fruit juice and soda) and coffee can do this as well. These substances excessively expand the kidneys and causes a subsequent contraction. Contracted kidneys can result in dark under eye circles.

    Also as far as salt goes you'd be surprised how much iodized salt is in your food...and if you eat take-out (anything) or restaurant meals you are absolutely 100% guaranteed to be getting too much of it. Also, iodized salt (which is in practically everything) aggravates the kidneys-which leads to these circles. Always look for products containing sea salt.

    Sometimes your eyelids and under eyes darken when you don't have enough good quality minerals in your body. Eating sea salted foods as well as some seaweed can help too (nori in sushi, dulse, wakame, etc.)

    I used to have really dark under eye circles until I cut out sugar and iodized salt and quit drinking. I still have darkness near the bridge of my nose but the more obvious undereye circle thing has gone away. Took months though.

    Good luck!

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    i use unrefined shea butter, you can get it at a health foods store! if its completely white and odorless, its refined and won't give your skin the full benefits. i also use rose hip oil all over my face to combat redness and acne scarring ( its incredible), and coconut oil is a nice light oil that sinks in fast that i use during the daytime under my sunscreen ( it also has natural spf). jojoba oil is the exact same ph as your skin, so it has a "balancing effect" i've read, and can actually signal your skin to stop producing oils when you put it on all the time.
    i'm also super passionate about skin care, and in the last 6 months my skin has made a COMPLETE turn around to the point where i dont need any makeup on it at all ( except eyes). it came from eliminating sugar, junk, pesticides on my fruit, etc and eating a super healthy organic diet with tons of water. no smoking, no alcohol, no harmful makeup and loads of sunscreen everyday applied every 2 hours.
    i also cut down on stress and take 2 tablespoons of coconut oil orally at night and that balances my hormones. good luck!!

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    Updates!

    Almost all of my pimples disappeared after four months of this routine. My acne scars are completely faded. All of the tiny under-the-skin pimples I once had have disappeared completely. I now only get about 2 pimples total a month (as opposed to 4-8 at a time, 20-30 a month) and they come to a head & heal after being popped faster than before.

    Then, out of nowhere, just as my face was starting to clear up I started to get cystic acne. I've had them all along but they were rare and suddenly they became more popular. The solution? Drinking apple cider vinegar. I get a water bottle and put an inch of apple cider vinegar (organic, with the "mother" in it, Braggs is the best brand) and fill the rest with water. Put some honey and lemon juice in there to make it taste less disgusting. Shake it and take a large gulp each day. Even taking a gulp a week is enough to keep them at bay after the first few weeks of daily use. After doing this my cystic pimples have disappeared (in some cases overnight) and I never get new ones unless I haven't drank any vinegar for a couple weeks.


    My skin has never looked better since before puberty! I am in awe of how amazing it looks.

    to summarize:
    drinking Apple cider vinegar for cystic acne.
    AHA & papya soap for acne scars & redness.
    AHA & benzoil peroxide for acne-prone areas and salicylic acid for spot treatment.
    eliminate silicones and dimethicone for tiny under-the-skin pimples.

    I recently moved to a more hot & humid climate across the country and am dealing with lots of new oil production. This is pretty much my only complaint about my skin at this point.
    Getting more sun has helped the dark circles under my eyes though!

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    ^ Be aware that ACV can affect tooth enamel- I drink it every morning too and then I rinse with fresh water throughly and follow with oil-pulling. Another option is to sip with a straw to the back of mouth.
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    I actually didn't know that! thank you for the heads up.

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    ^ Same with softdrink and high acidity food and bevs- if you think about it there will be heaps of high acid foods/bevs that need to be neutralised afterwards.

    Forgive me if wrong but isn't cheese an acid neutraliser?
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    ACV water before bed, def works wonders. Sip it through straw as mentioned.

    I don't get cystic acne like I use to, bc I did Accutane years ago then a few years later eliminated dairy and other junk. While I don't eat completely perfect, I don't eat heavily bad stuff. Plus lots of water after my morning coffee.

    As for face wash, I love peppermint castor oil. It doesn't leave my face oily and for toner I love witch hazel mixed with a little ACV. once in a while, I'll use retinol. I don't have to use a lot of product on my face to prevent acne, since the prevention is inside of my body.

    Also, seaweed spf is great for oily/acne prone skin. It hydrates without the greasy feel and no skin clogging.

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    I love this moisturizer for oily skin. It has spf in it.

    http://shiraesthetics.com/shop-now/s...isturizer.html

    It's not greasy and it doesn't clog my pores. It feels like water when you apply it on your skin and dries fast. I've been using it for a couple of years now. Love it.

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    Completely disagree with the exercise & healthy eating helping (only because that never worked for me.) If you have a hormonal imbalance, it's something you need to take a medication for. You can cut out all the sugar you like, & add an ocean of water & it won't matter. Excellent post!! Thanks for sharing & I'm glad your skin is clearing up! Bad skin not only affected my self esteem... but it's painful as hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissAdriana View Post
    Completely disagree with the exercise & healthy eating helping (only because that never worked for me.) If you have a hormonal imbalance, it's something you need to take a medication for. You can cut out all the sugar you like, & add an ocean of water & it won't matter. Excellent post!! Thanks for sharing & I'm glad your skin is clearing up! Bad skin not only affected my self esteem... but it's painful as hell!
    With medications you will make it worse. Ofc depends on hormons, if you have thyroid issue you need really a heavy metal detox. If you have women harmons imbalance you need vitamins to remove hormons from your body. If you have cysts of any kind, cyctic acne, cycst on ovaries, thyroid -you need DETOX. Not one week of juicing but long clean eating, to rebalance your organism. If people will realise that all problems in body is Adaptation on inviromental factors, chermincal exposure, bad food, stress.
    If you have gluten allergy and cystic acne you have to be happy that your body found way to take that crap out of you.
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    Also, seaweed spf is great for oily/acne prone skin. It hydrates without the greasy feel and no skin clogging.
    Yes! I use Mario Badescu Seaweed night time moisturizer and it makes my skin so smooth. I found it by researching moisturizers for oily/sensitive/acne prone skin. I am mixed and have thick hair so I often have to use products on my hair that can be oily and cause my face to break out. Easy to hide in club setting, but I like to go makeup free when I'm not at work or a special occasion, and this works very well on my skin. I use Nanocleanse as an anti-acne cleanser and it eliminates pimples but is rough on my skin (dries it out etc) so I need good moisturizer.
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    I've been obsessed with putting oils on my face and body lately. Feels much more natural than lotions. I've been adding avocado oil to my body lotion bottles. Using oils to remove makeup, to moisturize, to spot treat. I'm obsessed. Can't believe how often I used to strip my face of its natural oils - and so harshly! Trying to make up for lost time, now..

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    Yep, ive been oil cleansing well over a year now. Noone believes my age.
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    I use The Organic Pharmacy discovery kit, it contains a lifting oil.


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