Yes I know there is lots of info on Vegas, but no one really seems to know how it is out there right now...is it just always good? What are girls averaging right now?


Yes I know there is lots of info on Vegas, but no one really seems to know how it is out there right now...is it just always good? What are girls averaging right now?





Curious too



Me too--I'm heading out in late May despite dire warnings about the beginning of off-season...I would definitely appreciate an overall assessment of moneyness in LV right now.





Why do girls ask questions like this it just baffles me. I mean there's 300-500 girls a night who could possibly now and no one nows your earning potential. Just go and see how it is. just like everyone asking me about golf season. We has 150 girls. I now what i make and the girl i travel with but I'm wayyy to busy to know what others make. There's always going to be 10% of girls making most the money. I mean so and so may be making 1000 plus a night and her friend may be making 4-5. Idk.





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I'm going next month. I'm healing from a boob job and I'm doing some reading in the meantime to brush up on my hustling skills since I've been out the game for a while. I'll let you know how it goes.



I dunno, if someone asked me how PDX was right now, I'd say it's slowish based on what I've seen or heard. Girls who usually make X are making less than X right now, on average, whatever value you put in for X. It's not as slow as it was in January, but overall it's definitely on the slow side. I wouldn't be confused by the question, or irritated by it. I'd be more irritated by a GUYZ WHAT CLUB IN PDX IS THE BEST post than a "how are things" post. But hey, sorry this irritated you.
Also, you do know you can edit posts after you post them, right? For typos and stuff? Bottom right corner of the pink box around the post. I use it a lot.
EDIT: And now I see that the original question had a question about exact money amounts so I feel like I was a bigger jerk than I should have been here. I'd still be really interested in how LV is right now relative to normal if anyone is willing to discuss it.
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^ yep. I know. I'm the most well traveled girl on this board. and PDX big difference between Vegas. 3-500 girls. I get irriated because every year someone with like 5 posts come here and ask the same questions. If they are already going I guess they'll see when they arrive or if they did some homework they might see a lot of girls from Vegas are on strip trips so that might tell ya something.



I'm on a strip trip to NOLA. I think that says it all.





^ Haha. You were the main one I was thinking but i know 3 other girls as well.





They could also see the big post of ladies complaining about the contact levels in Vegas and how it ain't worth it for the $20 dances, and what's expected in rooms... which should basically tell them whether or not they can a) deal with the contact and 300+ girls on shift there, and b) if the money will be worth it if they can deal with those things.
"People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."
"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."


I did not ask for exact amounts, I asked for an average. Like, in Dallas right now at my club it seems me and a few girls I know of are averaging 250-400 on the weekends. Of course there is always the few that are making more, or even less. But I'm asking for an average. I didn't say, hey, what are the exact dollar amounts you and 200 other girls earned this month each day. So sorry if that was misconstrued or didn't make sense. I just want to know if it's better than normal or worse than normal.
Also I don't want to, and I don't intend to, drive 17 hours to the other side of the country to find out the bulk of girls are barely making their house fee when I can post in a huge forum online and maybe a few of the 200 girls working a night in that city can let me know if they are doing well there or not........
I'm sorry I don't sit on Stripper Web all day, and while I have been a member for a few years, I only have 58 posts, but I fail to see how that is relevant. What's that saying about if you don't have anything nice to say? My bad, I thought we could make posts asking for a little helpful insight. I thought that was the purpose of this forum. I guess not without having someone jump down your throat. And this is why I only have 58 posts.
Last edited by LadyVader; 05-07-2015 at 08:15 PM.




It's pretty much like that in Dallas right now too, hell probably a lot of places. So you're still dealing with the same scenarios. While it's true this does tell one that there are a lot of girls and that it is high contact, and that is very helpful, it doesn't convey anything about whether or not at the end of the night girls are going home having done well, worse than normal, barely making house fee, ect.

The prostitution is very open and rampant, IME particularly at Spearmint Rhino. Likely the dirtiest I've seen it to date.
IMO the biggest risk you run when travel dancing is the hit-or-miss aspect of dancing in general. Things could be great in Vegas right now, but if you're only staying there for a few days, you might hit a random slow period and end up leaving in the red. On the other hand, if you're thinking about staying there for a month, you have a much better chance of making the trip worth your time. That would give you the chance to find a club that fits you as an individual, get your licenses and whatnot, find a grocery store, adjust to working with 300 money-hungry sharks every night, change your look up if need be, find a hustle that works in the new city, make enough money to cover your expenses, and then start making a profit.
I really think that, for the vast majority of dancers, unless you're traveling for an event (or out of sheer boredom), you're better off dancing in your home club. It just isn't worth the risk to get a plane ticket, pay for a hotel and food, and cross your fingers that you'll hit three $1k+ nights in a row. Even if you do manage to make $1k/night, you have to also factor in the additional stress of traveling, time spent recovering afterwards, etc. It seems like it's generally a better bet to work consistently wherever you live now.
Not to mention, from what I've read on here, earnings in Vegas change drastically from one night to the next. Sure, you might be able to add a $1k-night gold star to your dancing resume, but you might leave with $200 on your next shift, bringing your average down by nearly half.
It's also true that, if you're only making $100-200/shift in your home club, the likelihood of you being able to travel to Vegas and start making $1-2k/night is pretty low. Sure, if you're a top earner in your home club, you'll probably be able to make decent money in a city like Vegas. But that begs the question...if you're already a top earner, and you're only looking to travel-dance for a week or so, then why not just stay put and work a few extra shifts? On the other side of things, if you're a low to average earner in your home club, you have no business traveling to Vegas for work. If you're travel dancing because you live in an area where 'top earner' consistently means $100/night, then you should probably look into moving rather than travel-dancing.
Just my long-winded two cents. And yes, there are of course exceptions to my generalizations, but I think my advice holds for 99% of dancers out there.
At the risk of sounding like a complete asshole, I'll also add that if you're a serious, experienced hustler, then you're already making good money no matter where you're dancing. Yes, there are places where it's much harder to make money (lookin' at you, $5-dance-land AZ). Yes, there are some places where there shouldn't even be strip clubs, where even the hustliest of hustlers couldn't walk out with more than $50/shift. BUT, in the vast majority of clubs out there, you will make money in direct proportion to your appearance and sales skills.
As someone who has been in this industry for years and has worked in multiple states, I have to say that my hourly average rarely fluctuates no matter where I'm dancing. Of course, it fluctuates a bit from night to night - we all have fantastic nights and less-than-fantastic nights. I'm talking about averages here. But I've danced in a few cities now where I was told dancing wasn't worth my time - "there's no money here for anyone," "you're lucky if you walk out with $150" - and I'm consistently walking out with my same high hourly average.
So it would be helpful for many travel dancers to do some serious self-reflection before they sink money into traveling. If you're traveling because you aren't making what you'd like to be making...do you really think that it's your city that's holding you back? (Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't.) Or is it possible that something (e.g. hustle, appearance, work ethic) could be getting in the way of you reaching your full potential?
I hope this post doesn't offend anyone. I mean well. If my post saves even one industry newbie from getting eaten alive in a city like Vegas, I'm happy.![]()
Apologies if my posts seem like a threadjack. Also, sorry for the length! I'm running on just a few hours of sleep and got a bit rant-y / lecture-y up there. Zzzzs for charlie tonight...
^Yes, I was trying to make it as obvious as possible that my generalizations excluded those .1% of dancers who truly do kill it with travel dancing.![]()





I know. I'm going to errase my post. I don't want all that info on here.





Charlie, it makes my heart happy to know that one of the hustliest-of-hustlers thinks AZ is difficult, because it is, damn it. I adhere to all the hustle tips here, 3-song rule, etc. and it's shitty to realize what I make is essentially half of what I could make elsewhere.
I think AZ and CA are probably the few areas where it is really worth it to go to Vegas; it's only a 4 hour drive or an $80 flight, and even if it is sharky and high contact, at least the compensation is double that of $10 dances here.
Agreed though that it's not really worth it to leave your home club if you have (at least) $20 floor dances and rooms available, and a decent customer flow, to go to Vegas. You'll just be trading it out for the same floor $$, maybe more on the rooms (depending on your home club's pricing and tipping policies; Vegas hosts expect a good chunk), and be out the flight and hotel costs.
Just my humble opinion though.
"People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."
"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."


Oh no, I completely agree with everything you are saying Charlie, thank you. Especially that going to a new place for a few days is a huge gamble with how erratic dancing is nowadays. I think traveling for a month is anyone's best bet.



Thank you, Charlie. I think I really needed to hear/read that.



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