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    I've been considering calling vice to come clean up my club lately. It used to be a nice place where we all made decent money. This past year, and especially the past 6 months, a group of 6-7 dick suckers have taken over. The rest of us are tired of seeing these same skanks night after night taking our good out of town guys in VIP and doing stuff a prostitute should be doing. Management knows, and knows we're all pissed, but hey they sell bottles so they turn a blind eye. I'm about to call vice and clean this up myself in the next few weeks.
    Anyone ever actually done this? If so, did it work?

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    Make sure it can't get traced to you somehow.

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    Quote Originally Posted by KikiRooRoo View Post
    I've been considering calling vice to come clean up my club lately. It used to be a nice place where we all made decent money. This past year, and especially the past 6 months, a group of 6-7 dick suckers have taken over. The rest of us are tired of seeing these same skanks night after night taking our good out of town guys in VIP and doing stuff a prostitute should be doing. Management knows, and knows we're all pissed, but hey they sell bottles so they turn a blind eye. I'm about to call vice and clean this up myself in the next few weeks.
    Anyone ever actually done this? If so, did it work?
    Don't. Really, don't do it. LE will figure it out on their own and do what's necessary. I would strongly recommend not getting incolved. You'll be found out eventually.

    If you can, find a cleaner club and work there. As for the extras girls, trust me... everybody knows who does them and they'll be almost universally shunned in any above board club. They never last long.

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    It will be really bad for the club and your own money too

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    I don't think that's a very good idea. Even if your behavior at work is 100% legal, there's no guarantee you won't also be hassled/ticketed/arrested by LE during a raid. Plus, management is obviously enjoying the perks of the additional profit these extras girls are bringing in. If you report them anonymously and a raid happens, they're all going to know it was you since you spoke up about it. I'm just concerned about all the negative ramifications you would face vs. the potential positives of having your clean club back.

    Honestly, I think it would be less risky to you if you just tried to drive them out of the club by putting Nair in their hair products or lotion on the bottom of their shoes.

    ETA: I've thought about doing this at one of my own clubs and decided it wasn't worth it. You can still make money working with extras girls, you just have to hustle differently.

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    Guys, I've been daydreaming of doing this for months! Lol
    But I also thought I could send an anonymous email warning them that vice will be called if they don't clean house, and give them a few weeks to do it. Extras are now the norm, I know this. But we were doing fine before this handful of girls came from who knows where and ruined a good thing. We've all noticed VIP customers are now expecting more than just a few months ago. Hmmmm wonder why? .

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    I'm not the only one that's been bitching about them. 80% of the girls there are always saying snide remarks in the dressing room and to management about them. Believe they won't go anywhere. Making 1000+ hoing in the VIP and not getting in trouble? They'll never leave.

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    Not sure why I keep double posting
    Last edited by KikiRooRoo; 05-11-2015 at 04:40 PM.

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    I know what it's like. The first clubs I danced in were great until the extras girls and ROB's moved in. The ROB girls were fired but most of the extras girls that were discreet about it trashed the place. Dancer quality declined, drugs were openly used and customer quality declined. They fired the druggie but, as the club still gets a cut of the extras, they don't get involved unless it's blatantly obvious.

    Kaninchen is correct in the fact that, by calling in a raid, you're likely to get ticketed or arrested right along with the extras dancers. It's not like LE is going to reward you with a warning of when it'll happen. Also, once word gets around that the club has been raided, customer quality is likely to decline even further. Respectable customers are likely to avoid a club if they think there might be a bust and don't want to explain to their wife why they need bail money.

    If you want to drive the extras girls out and they're outnumbered, it can be done. But, once a club gets a reputation, it's hard to clean up without management on board.

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    OMG yes kirakonstantin! Customers always ask for blow, and up until 6 months ago I honestly didn't know where to get it. Now on any given night I know at least 3 people, employees, that have it. I still don't get it for them I'm too paranoid. But it's just another selling point these extras girls have brought in for themselves. Go to VIP, get ya dick rubbed, do some blow. Who could resist? Lol

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    Get out and don't look back. You'll thank yourself for it.

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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    Usually if the drugs are kept out, the management will not get involved. The girls doing extras should be discrete, and if doing it right, everyone shouldnt know. The problem is the customers introduce the drug scene to the dancers and ask them, and the girls will do more and more to please. Piss poor economy helps drive the extras, and the law enjoys them too. There is a class separation in clubs, and its just never really talked much about with the dancers, but the clubs do it, High class is higher class. Being "desired" can make you more money than actually doing much, but has to be in the right location..

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    You'll be shooting yourself in the foot if you get LE involved. Have you tried looking into another club?

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    I would be way more worried about the potential problems this could cause for you...extras girls, particularly druggie ones tend to go hand in hand with pimps and that kind of scummy shit...and I wouldn't want to piss them off. If I were you, I'd think your best bet would be to get the other clean girls and whatever staff members seem sympathetic and attempt to get rid of them. It will depend on your club setup but when my club has suspected extras girls, often times the other girls will purposefully dance RIGHT in the next booth (we have half walls separating the booths) and try to catch them in the act and then call them on it in the DR, or go to management. I know some discrete shit goes down at my club but if a girl gets caught she is still fired, or suspended, and that usually results in them cleaning up, at least for a bit. It keeps the extras enough at bay that it's not a huge problem. The other thing you and the other dancers could collectively try to do is to follow them around to tables and ruin each of their sales. But this could result in a fight, and also will obviously cost you time/money. And potentially, customers/traffic if your club gets a rep for being a "drama zone". A combination of group hazing and watching them so close they can't put a dick in their mouth without the whole club knowing about it and giving them shit for it would probably work better. I feel your pain, I really do, I moved cities entirely to get away from rampant extras. Those clubs with 90% of the girls tricking were lost causes but I'm pretty sure you and the other girls can do SOMETHING about it on your own if it's less than 20% of the girls working there that are partaking. Don't try anything by yourself though, because, safety. I'd also start looking for a "back up" club incase things don't end up improving. Which unfortunately in this day and age is definitely a possibility no matter how mean/annoying you guys are to them.
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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    If you want to drive the extras girls out and they're outnumbered, it can be done. But, once a club gets a reputation, it's hard to clean up without management on board.
    Management knows, and knows we're all pissed, but hey they sell bottles so they turn a blind eye. I'm about to call vice and clean this up myself in the next few weeks.
    Indeed management knows exactly what's going on ... and tacitly approves of it. Why ? Because the club's cut of bottle sales, VIP sales etc. that these 'extras' girls provide may be preventing the club from going bankrupt. Thus I should point out that getting LE involved, and getting the club put under enough ongoing LE scrutiny to drive away the 'extras' dancers and their customers, may wind up being a Phyrric Victory for the 'clean' dancers.

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    How will they know SHE would be the one telling Law Enforcement? Don't their informants have some sort of legal protection of anonymity?

    I never considered calling on my club - I just don't want to open pandoras box. Plus I have never seen blatant extras (though I have seen gray area sh*t) with my own two eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    How will they know SHE would be the one telling Law Enforcement? Don't their informants have some sort of legal protection of anonymity?

    I never considered calling on my club - I just don't want to open pandoras box. Plus I have never seen blatant extras (though I have seen gray area sh*t) with my own two eyes.
    Well, nobody will know for sure but, if she's been complaining about the extras and LE shows up shortly after, people may put it together. Locker room sleuthing has come up with some pretty interesting shit, especially if said sleuths are on a lot of drugs and paranoid.

    I've seen blatant extras. Bj's, hj's, toe sucking. Fuck, I've seen customers balls deep in extras girls.... right there in the CR. One of the main reasons I defected ASAP. I am SO not going down for shit some other bitch is doing.

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    Aside from all the negatives everyone else has mentioned, law enforcement may very well do nothing based on one person contacting them. You might be very surprised by how much bribery goes on.

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    True. The only reason my old clubs are still open, as well as the other even bigger club for prostitution are still open is that the owners grease the right palms. When the investigation into drug activity got hotter, all of the sudden pay was cut, dancers were pressured to tip more. The owner likely needed extra funds to take the heat off.

    Vice likely doesn't give much of a fuck about extras. They care about drugs. Even if the owner did increase the bribery, all three clubs are likely to get busted soon and HARD, because the crackdown on drugs is too little, too late. I'm sure there will also be prostitution busts, but they'll be a bonus for LE, rather than the primary reason for the raid.

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    If you do it, I would strongly recommend that you and all the other clean dancers quit working there. I heard that if a place gets busted EVERYONE gets arrested and they all lose their jobs. I dont know what the law is like in your area, but thats how it goes pretty much everywhere. Could you and the other clean dancers work somewhere else? Do you know if your local police department is in on it? A lot of clubs that do extras, the owners have connections with the cops. Another reason you should quit working there is because girls who work dirty bring a lot of drama to wherever they are working, and you dont want to be subject to that!

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    You'll be doing more harm than good. Worry about yourself.
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    I heard that if a place gets busted EVERYONE gets arrested and they all lose their jobs. I dont know what the law is like in your area, but thats how it goes pretty much everywhere. Could you and the other clean dancers work somewhere else? Do you know if your local police department is in on it? A lot of clubs that do extras, the owners have connections with the cops.
    You'll be doing more harm than good.
    This was the point of my earlier reference to a Phyrric Victory. I guess this needs to be spelled out ...

    - best case scenario ... Local LE has zero unofficial connections to the clubowner, and is genuinely interested in enforcing the law. LE takes your tip seriously, busts the club following the letter of the law, and only arrests the 'dirty' dancers. Local news coverage publicizes this fact. Likely result is that 'good' customers stop coming to the club because they are scared of another bust, while 'extras' customers stop coming to the club because the girls who were providing 'extras' are now gone. Far fewer customers means far less income for both the remaining 'clean' dancers but also for the clubowner. Depending on the clubowner's financial condition, and the level of ongoing LE attention, this could result in the club being closed down because continuing to operate this way only results in mounting financial losses for the clubowner.

    ...worst case scenario ... well, let's not ponder on that one too hard. Let's just say that, if a payola arrangement is already in place with local LE, it would not be impossible for LE to officially ignore your tip thus doing nothing in regard to a club bust, but for LE to also ( illegally ) inform the clubowner ( and/or whoever else might be part of a payola scheme ... pimps ? ... drug dealers ? ) where the tip originated from. Knowing the identity of the person who has potentially 'threatened their livelihoods', by pure coincidence that person falls victim to a 'tragic accident'.
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    Default Re: Have you ever considered calling vice on your own club?

    You could, but don't ever expect to work there again. Even if management never found out it was you who called, the club would likely be shut down. Also, club owners sometimes pay off vice to look the other way.

    I would call the cops if the problem is a sex trafficking issue (girls are there against their will or are under aged). If the girls are sucking dick voluntarily and are adults who aren't being forced to trick by their pimp, you will be fighting an uphill battle. It would just be easier to find a new club.

    If you really want to get back at the club, sue them for back wages and a refund of house fees and dance fees. You are likely to win that legal battle and there are a lot of activist lawyers out there looking for that kind case to bring in front of a judge (and the media. Your name will be all over the place and associated with the club.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    How will they know SHE would be the one telling Law Enforcement? Don't their informants have some sort of legal protection of anonymity?
    Not if they need her testimony as a witness. There is no witness protection for strippers who call out their clubs. Generally, these women would be labeled "disgruntled" employees.

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