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    http://gps-gracepowerstrength.blogsp...sociopath.html

    A pretty good article that may help someone here. (I'd guess it could apply to female sociopaths too.)
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    It's incredible how similar they all are. Even the way they drive is a trope.

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    I have known so many people like this, including an ex boyfriend. They are the most pathetic excuses for human beings and do not deserve to breathe the same air as me. I think the ones who become really destructive to society are the ones who were dealt with leniently as children and got away with shit.

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    I think there is some genetic link here, maybe a weak one, but I think some people are born to be sociopaths if they are not corrected very early and some just will not ever be corrected. At one time in the very distant past, they were probably eliminated by the clan's elders.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    This is the perfect description of my ex. I already knew.....but yep, this confirms it. I'm curious though.......there were (VERY few and far between) moments where he would also seem really vulnerable, genuine, and caring (not usually for me.....but for others.) Do you think there's a "real person" inside there somewhere that you can occasionally catch a glimpse of? Or is it just another part of the act?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamsInDigital View Post
    This is the perfect description of my ex. I already knew.....but yep, this confirms it. I'm curious though.......there were (VERY few and far between) moments where he would also seem really vulnerable, genuine, and caring (not usually for me.....but for others.) Do you think there's a "real person" inside there somewhere that you can occasionally catch a glimpse of? Or is it just another part of the act?
    No, its just part of the act. Sociopaths do not have any empathy for others, that is a definining characteristic of their disorder. Having no empathy and no conscience cancels out any possibility of having a "real person" inside of them. They have the ability to fake emotion and mimic others who are not sociopaths however.

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    Thing is it is not an act. It is so deeply ingrained in adult sociopaths that it is nearly impossible to correct, and that with prolonged psychiatric help. The only practical thing to do is to isolate yourself from them; they are crazymakers.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    In my personal experience people with similar disorders can wreak as much havoc as a sociopath.....I've known a few sociopaths & it's kind of amusing how different they can be on the outside but once you get to know them...you see ALL the same traits.

    The OP article seems to address a sociopath from a wealthy background- but there are plenty of lower income sociopaths. That's how street gangs pad out their numbers...

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    Most street gang members are wanna be sociopaths.Their more a product of their enviroment sociopaths aren't.

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    The term sociopath is actually out f date. I think the author means antisocial personality disorder. Also, the description is more accurate to a narcissist than someone with antisocial pd. People with antisocial personality disorder typically have no regard for right and wrong and often disregard the rights, wishes and feelings of others. Those with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others either harshly or with callous indifference. They may often violate the law, landing in frequent trouble, yet they show no guilt or remorse. They may lie, behave violently or impulsively, and have problems with drug and alcohol use. These characteristics typically make people with antisocial personality disorder unable to fulfill responsibilities related to family, work or school. Antisocial personality disorder signs and symptoms may include: Disregard for right and wrong Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or for sheer personal pleasure Intense egocentrism, sense of superiority and exhibitionism Recurring difficulties with the law Repeatedly violating the rights of others by the use of intimidation, dishonesty and misrepresentation Child abuse or neglect Hostility, significant irritability, agitation, impulsiveness, aggression or violence Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others Unnecessary risk-taking or dangerous behaviors Poor or abusive relationships Irresponsible work behavior Failure to learn from the negative consequences of behavior Antisocial personality disorder symptoms may begin in childhood and are fully evident for most people during their 20s and 30s. In children, cruelty to animals, bullying behavior, impulsivity or explosions of anger, social isolation, and poor school performance may be, in some cases, early signs of the disorder. Although considered a lifelong disorder, some symptoms — particularly destructive and criminal behavior and the use of alcohol or drugs — may decrease over time, but it's not clear whether this decrease is a result of aging or an increased awareness of the consequences of antisocial behavior. Complications, consequences and problems of antisocial personality disorder include: Aggressiveness leading to verbal or physical violence Gang participation Reckless behavior Risky sexual behavior Child abuse Alcohol or substance abuse Gambling problems Being in jail or prison Homicidal or suicidal behaviors Relationship difficulties Occasional periods of depression or anxiety School and work problems Strained relationships with health care providers Low social and economic status, and homelessness Premature death, usually as a result of violence
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    I'm not sure I've run across an anti social personality..but I have know a narcissist. They have somewhat similar traits? What a nightmare I subjected myself to. I thought some of You Tube vids on the topic were good.


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    The definitions are evolving with each publication of the DSM. I get psychopath and sociopath mixed up; I suppose those are old definitions. I don't know, but maybe the term 'antisocial personality disorder' is a more general grouping of several detailed definitions. I'm gonna have to study Optimist's post more closely than I have time for right now.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Optimist covered most of what I was going to say, but I also wanted to add that while there may be some genetic basis to personality disorders, the current theory is that most of it has to do with the people who raise you. Obviously this will look similar to a genetic link, but my research and gut suggest that a lot of depends on modeling as well as the individual's reaction to trauma. To oversimplify, the most common pattern seems to be that different children raised by the same parent(s) who have 'sociopathic' tendencies either become sociopathic/narcissistic themselves, or the people they bully. Then as adults, they seek out their 'other half,' have kids together, and pass the same bullshit down.

    It is important to note that a lot of the enablers in this equation are also capable of abuse, but usually it's obvious they're doing it because they're in pain. With the other group, it's like they truly do it for giggles.

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    ^ I don't believe that. They've done studies on Jeffery Dahmers brain and other sociiopaths whom in fact had great up bringings. Unless your a psychologist or neuroscientist (even they can't say with certainty) what makes a sociopath. And now a days sociopath, psychopath are inter changeable.

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    I'm just summarizing what I've read, feel free to do your own research.

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    ^ I have. I was obsessed with serial killers.

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    This was my ex to a T. It's pretty scary looking back and realizing how bad they trap you. I was with this man for over two years!

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    I used to be like that, but I am trying to change because I want to set a better example for my son. I do not want him to grow up having a negative image of his mother.





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    What goes into the creation of a psychopath varies. In some cases, it's environmental upbringing. In other cases, the neural pathways of psychopaths don't develop normally due to trauma, neglect, and/or abuse. Sometimes it can be as simple as a mother not holding her infant, which is a form of neglect, and can cause all kinds of mental disorders down the line for the child. There is always a reason why people form psychopathic tendencies. And there are alot more of them walking amongst us than people realize.

    Also, here is an interesting article about how some psychopaths are actually highly emotional but shut down: http://psychcentral.com/news/2015/04...nal/83228.html (Obviously, this doesn't apply to all psychopaths.)
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    If you have to ask "is he or she a sociopath?" The answer is probably "yes". This goes for both sexes. If you have to ask, there's a reason why you're asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    ^ I have. I was obsessed with serial killers.
    My best friend growing up was too. And yeah, I think serial killing is a different beast. I was talking more about your run of the mill personality disordered person.

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    Serial killers are psychopaths
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    ^ Yes. Most psychiatrists say sociopath psychopath are interchangable. When I did research years ago they said ( can't remember which) but one was the old term they used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    If you have to ask "is he or she a sociopath?" The answer is probably "yes". This goes for both sexes. If you have to ask, there's a reason why you're asking.
    Maybe some truth to this, but as in someone I know, I questioned it, they didn't fit sociopath, but definiately narcissist


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    My ex to the T.


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