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    Changing things up soon and I'd really like some feedback on my current hustle, trying to decide if it needs a total overhaul or not.

    My prices are on the medium-higher side and $2 apart; I make probably 85-90% of my income from exclusives - what I do is keep premium as a "taste tester" where I will do a standard show with limited features and no customization.. whereas exclusive includes toys, c2c, kinks and any customer requests (within my limits), basically a more in-depth interactive experience.

    If I keep my pvt so much more limited than my excl, do you think it'd be more popular with a lower rate (while maintaining/increasing the excl rate)? Do you generally offer the same experience for both show types and only keep pvt cheaper because others can join in or do you also set a clear distinction between the two and how does it work out for you? I'd love to hear any and all feedback. n_n

    *edit: also just realized "hustle" may not be the right term here.... but I'm hustling my shows this way, so maybe? Haha sorry for any confusion!
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    I usually keep my rates about $2 apart as well, and I only do "vanilla" shows in private (plus no names, no phone, and less customization). Exclusive is much more personalized and fetish friendly. From what I've seen, most guys are either interested in private OR exclusive. There aren't a whole lot of guys sampling private shows and then going exclusive later. But that's just me! I think experimenting with rates can be a really good thing, especially if you have a plan for how you'll hustle and track everything really well. Give it a try for a couple of weeks and see what happens!

    I really like using camyourway for tracking earnings on SM because I hate messing around in excel. But if you poke around on here a bit you should be able to find some threads with helpful info about tracking earnings and how to make your own charts.


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    I have my prices at $5.99/$9.99 and I still get at least a couple of exclusives a day during a 6 hour shift. Exclusive guys are usually very well off and will pay, they don't fuck around and take you private for just a minute.

    When I had my prices the same at $5.99/$5.99 it didn't change the number of exclusives versus privates. The reason I did this was to see if it would make a difference in the number of exclusives that I would get. Since it didn't, I went back up to $9.99.

    I did about 2 weeks where I switched around and made exclusive lower. That did make a difference and I did get more exclusives but I made less overall because I tend to get multiple guys in privates.

    I did a week where I raised my prices to $7.99/$12.99 and hahaha and I got so many complaints about the prices it was more of a hassle just trying to ignore them all and my earnings went down.

    I find that girls who do mostly gold shows during their cam time tend to price their privates much higher.

    I really think it depends on many variables. It's good to experiment with different prices and find the sweet spot for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublerainbow View Post
    Changing things up soon and I'd really like some feedback on my current hustle, trying to decide if it needs a total overhaul or not.

    My prices are on the medium-higher side and $2 apart; I make probably 85-90% of my income from exclusives - what I do is keep premium as a "taste tester" where I will do a standard show with limited features and no customization.. whereas exclusive includes toys, c2c, kinks and any customer requests (within my limits), basically a more in-depth interactive experience.

    If I keep my pvt so much more limited than my excl, do you think it'd be more popular with a lower rate (while maintaining/increasing the excl rate)? Do you generally offer the same experience for both show types and only keep pvt cheaper because others can join in or do you also set a clear distinction between the two and how does it work out for you? I'd love to hear any and all feedback. n_n

    *edit: also just realized "hustle" may not be the right term here.... but I'm hustling my shows this way, so maybe? Haha sorry for any confusion!
    When I was a baby beginner camgirl I had a veteran camgirl give me the advice to start figuring out how to use spreadsheets immediately. It was great advice because learning how to use spreadsheets in order to figure out which one of my hustles was the most profitable is one of the best things I ever did as a camgirl. It took so much guess work out of it!

    Don't get me wrong.....I grit my teeth and completely loathe using them but they have definitely been a tool that has helped me work smarter and not harder.

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    My problem is that I'm completely lacking hustle at all lol. Every time I try being this sex goddess I just come across as this dumbass

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    hmmm I think Scarlettebelle is right. Seems right from the start, no matter my prices, Exclusive guys are that, (exclusive) and group private guys are that.(private) As for price difference, I've been comfortable changing/raising my private rate before my exclusive. No complaints so far and I'm happy where I'm at. My exclusive guys are my best guys, I DO eventually want to raise it another dollar, but not for awhile. I'm at $5.99 $6.99 now And I offer a 15 minute block which gets used a lot by my best exclusive guys who use 30 minutes of it. But at my prices, I don't offer a 30 min block. Maybe when I raise my rates again at the end of summer, I'll offer a 30 min block. ?

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    I prefer 1 on 1 exclusive shows (at a lower rate) and my rates are $8.99/7.99. I hated peepers and felt less anxiety performing for only one custie at a time. Exclusive guys almost never peep so I leave my private rate higher so if peeping does happen, I'm already getting a higher rate. Most guys will go for the cheapest of the two so I only drop my rate $1 so that they push for exclusive. I do the same shows across the bored which keeps things less confusing and simple for the guys. I get more exclusive shows at $7.99 but I do get quite a few private shows as well. If they can afford me, they get what they want, within reason My tip menu also starts at $7.




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    Thanks for all the great responses! This is very helpful. For me, I haven't yet experienced the 'exclusive being only exclusive' thing as most guys start out asking about getting a pvt and after I explain the difference in shows (c2c being the biggest selling point for most of them) they say "oh, ok!" and do excl instead. A good few even start out as pvt then switch mid-show when they want more customization/c2c.

    My placement has been dismal since I began camming, 3rd page at best, due to tech issues and the fact that the best internet for my area only goes up to 1mb upload (and I get a whopping .65mb of that on the speed test). However, I'm told my stream is clear and perfect a lot - when I check myself it's a choppy/blocky mess so not sure what's up with that but I only get 5 star ratings. That's why I keep my prices where they are (5.99/7.99) even with my placement giving me pretty limited traffic. Managed to keep my bills paid so far but I really need to start earning more so I can actually begin to save up and eventually move... somewhere with fios lol!
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    Yeah, I'm at $6.99/$9.99 because even if I make a fuckton more money doing premiums (generally have an average of 2 people in there, gets up to about 5 but lots of times there's one energizer bunny who just stays and stays), they're more tiring, I feel like I have to rush much more, etc. With this price distro, I get about an equal amount of time for each (for every 40 minute exclusive I'll have two 20 minute premiums).

    With the exception of the $2 diff - which is about right if you're at $5.99/$7.99 - I do the same thing. I limit what I do in premiums to fingerplay/Hitachi so I don't go to poundtown on the punani. That being said, most of my guys who are willing to go exclusive with me actually are kind of awesome so they always go with whatever toy I prefer (Hitachi).

    I'm surprised that people ask about c2c outside. MOST - not all - c2c guys I get are arseholes who jump into premium without reading my description or asking me and when I sweetly apologize about my c2c excl rule, they leave my room immediately. Dicks.


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    Weird...I didn't even know premium had a c2c option. I only get c2c requests in Exclusive which is always someone jerking off, wanting JOI, CEI, or wants to show me how amazingly uncomfortable and surprisingly entertaining it is to self-suck O.o...




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    Haha I know it might be strange (and maybe I just haven't been doing this long enough yet) but I actually prefer c2c - a lot. I don't necessarily enjoy looking at dicks but it's really good motivation/reassurance for me, especially with guys who barely type, to see that they're going at it. If he's still hard it means I'm doing things right lol. I'm not into guys at all irl which probably factors in there, might as well be watching someone fondle a cucumber for all the sexual association I have with it. ;P Just reading text is more of a pain and feels less natural to me, like I second guess myself so much more.

    Anyway, I'm joining with daily pay and will be getting another shot at a new account so I really don't want to blow it. Not sure if I should start out with my prices raised and use the temporary traffic boost to get guys who will already be comfy paying that, or start out low to build up more regulars before hiking them up. Thinking I might start low at least the first few days until I secure my 5 star rating again... can't go below 3.99/4.99 and keep my motivation, though. Thoughts?
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    If you want ratings, you can always promise them a sexy pic if they rate you a 5. There's *no reason* not to start at 5.99 for exclusives. Train them right away.


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    I also really like cam2cam. It's especially useful for domme sessions, and it definitely helps the flow of vanilla shows too.

    I would start with your prices above $3.99/$4.99 if support gives you that option. Higher rates attract better clients, and better clients are more likely to hand out good ratings. Low rates tend attract whiny, pushy jerks who don't value your time.


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    Yeah that's very true, I guess it doesn't make sense to start things off cheap and attract cheap regulars then raise my rates on them later. I'm pretty sure there's an option to have higher rates unlocked immediately with Boleyn so I'll look into that.

    I've never fully wrapped my mind around the "sending something after custie does something" thing - do I just save it as a text line that I'll send at the start of a show? Or do I advertise it in free chat like "if we have a show and you rate me 5 stars I'll send you a treat" sort of deal? I know they would need to email me before I can send them anything, right? Just trying to picture how to actually phrase it. Hah, doesn't help that I always get so distracted by a show starting that I usually forget to send any of my prepared messages...
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    bookmarking this*
    My hustle needs much work... though I currently have pretty low prices (3.99 /4.99), but I'm new so I kind of want to see how that goes more before changing things around a lot.

    though the comments about training in the right direction first and getting a better "crop" of clients when having higher rates are making me think more... think I'll raise things by a buck or two...
    Last edited by WintersKiss; 05-31-2015 at 10:29 PM. Reason: more thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublerainbow View Post
    I've never fully wrapped my mind around the "sending something after custie does something" thing - do I just save it as a text line that I'll send at the start of a show? Or do I advertise it in free chat like "if we have a show and you rate me 5 stars I'll send you a treat" sort of deal?
    I do "If you [do thing] I'll send you a [thing]. Message me to get it tonight." Then if they message, I reply with a Project Maenad link, if not - it's not my problem for the time being.

    I also keep a spreadsheet of who is eligible for what treat, because some guys just message insisting they'd met the conditions of the offer when they didn't.


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