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    Default The "Skills You Need To Work On" Motivation Thread

    So I always get on SW or read a sales book, find all these things I should be working on to improve ITC, and then I promptly forget about them when I get there...

    I'm a creature of habit and it's hard to remember to incorporate new things. I was thinking we could have a thread where we can post things we want to work on ITC, and be accountable to 'checking in' whether or not we remembered to do it... like the June Challenge Thread

    Examples: you've moved to a VIP room club instead of a lap-hopping club and want to remember to suggest a ½ hour room, remembering to suggest tipping after dances, practicing your conversational skills, etc.

    So I'll go first, and I'm gonna say that for June, I'm going to remember to ask for tips after every dance, and make a point to use the phrasing "That'll be $30 and tips are always appreciated!" Hopefully it will become a habit!
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

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    I really need to get my flexibility back before going back to work. I've been focused on losing the baby weight - and yea that's pretty important - but flex training (for me) is just as important. I love doing pole and lots of splits - especially straddle splits *although some people call them side splits* ... Also floor work!! I tend to rely on pole too much on stage because I do love it and it's very much my comfort zone - but I need to focus more on using my floor work to engage customers sitting stage side and work more on selling dances that way.. Rather than just collecting ones and moving to the floor to hustle - I should start my hustle from the stage and move it with me to the floor. Now I AM feeling more motivated! :-)

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    I need to be more patient and persistent. At my new club it's expensive so most people aren't going to drop a ton of money in 5 minutes. I need to learn to stay there and keep hustling. I've made a habit of only leaving after the fifth time I want to leave lol.

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    I need to remember to do something about my resting bit*h face. Like, smile more.

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    I need to figure out how to upsell better. I'm pretty sure I've actually convinced a few guys not to do a VIP entirely out of haste and being oblivious.

    Guy: "I could get into trouble with you. You're gonna keep me here all night."
    Me: "You want a couch dance?"
    Guy: "If that's what you prefer."
    Me: "Sure! Lets go!"

    Sigh.

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    Default Re: The "Skills You Need To Work On" Motivation Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HoolaTwister View Post
    I need to remember to do something about my resting bit*h face. Like, smile more.
    You mean the solution isn't rolling your eyes and going "That's just MY FACE!" ??

    (For real, I have this problem too, I have to make a big point to smile at people when they make eye contact. I also have to dress down in pink colors and glittery shoes to offset it, because if I wear black it's just too much 'hostility'.
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    I need to work on being more money hungry. I'm very empathetic and it makes customers love me too much but in a "I want to date you and take you home to mom" and not a "I need to spend all my money". Smh lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettyglitter View Post
    I need to work on being more money hungry. I'm very empathetic and it makes customers love me too much but in a "I want to date you and take you home to mom" and not a "I need to spend all my money". Smh lol
    I can totally relate. Lol I always tried to get customers to buy dances by being nice and relating to them... But then they would puse the issue of meeting OTC. Arghhh it's like, no I don't want to grab a coffee with you!!! 😣😣

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    Default Re: The "Skills You Need To Work On" Motivation Thread

    Being more committed to going into the club when I plan for it.

    Learning new pole tricks and perhaps investing in a home pole studio.

    Saving/investing dancer profits

    Buying new outfits/shoes more frequently

    Upselling and asking for tips

    Avoiding club 'money traps' like vending machine or buying anything from house mom.

    Getting skilled at applying makeup and doing hair.

    Fine tuning the sales skills.
    “Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Being more committed to going into the club when I plan for it.

    Learning new pole tricks and perhaps investing in a home pole studio.

    Saving/investing dancer profits

    Buying new outfits/shoes more frequently

    Upselling and asking for tips

    Avoiding club 'money traps' like vending machine or buying anything from house mom.

    Getting skilled at applying makeup and doing hair.

    Fine tuning the sales skills.
    If you're interested in investing in pole - check PoleAndAerial.com - you can even make a free membership to view their free lessons - and it's like $30 a month. They also sell equipment, outfits (although their apparel is more for competition style.. Some of it maybe for club - but a lot of good stuff to work out in too..) Also they have a nice selection of Pleaser and Tony shoes :-) I love that sight - you can learn pretty much anything you want to learn on the pole - they also do Lyra and silks lessons if you're into that *I have silks that hook to my pole so right now I'm all about it* Hope you check it out. You can't beat their instructors either.. <3

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    Default Re: The "Skills You Need To Work On" Motivation Thread

    I need to work on not being so awkward at the start of my shift. When I'm dead sober and just getting on the floor the conversations with customers can be really awkward on my end. I need to work on getting right in my stripper persona the second I get to work.

    I also need to work on asking for tips! I never do this for some reason. The guys at my club can be so stingey and only pay the exact amount and I just forget to ask for a tip.

    I should work on doing any dances I can do and not give customers so much attitude.. lol. I hate doing single dances but those can really add up and instead of rolling my eyes at the customers who only want those I should just suck it up and do it.

    I need to also work on staying on the floor!! I can spend too much time in the DR sometimes and I need to keep my ass out of there.

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    ^^ I can relate to a lot of that ^^ I've gotten better at getting into my stripper persona so I'm pretty much there by the time I get to the club - I do as much as I can to get ready short of walking out of the house in heels. I do all my makeup at home and spray primer so it sticks and won't sweat off - I *try* to do my hair at home.. Depending on what I'm doing though I'll have to do a lot of touch ups in the DR - so if I'm wearing it down and flat ironing it - I'll try to do it all at home - but I always take a mini flat iron in my case for touch ups. It is always awkward when I first get there. Even before I had to go on maternity (and legal) leave - I still hadn't been working there as a long as a lot of girls and I'm not much for convo in the DR... Always some drama I can't help but listen to - but don't want any part of. In the beginning of the night is when I find myself back in the DR between stage sets sometimes if I'm having trouble getting my head into the hustle. Once I do though I'm all good - but like the OP (and a few others) mentioned - asking for tips after dances!! I have to remember this too. I like "tips are always appreciated!" (With a big sugary smile...) My question to the OP... Did you get money for your dances up front or after...? Where I was they were required to pay the $20 up front - I guess in that case I'd be asking for tips with that line before the dance... Which kinda sucks - because while it's easy to slip that in when you're giving them the price - a lot of people might forget.. A lot of guys do just want to pay the minimum but some might be happy to tip you a little extra - except they might forget between you closing with the price and the end of the song - especially after they've had a few drinks in 'em. So what would be a good line before parting ways to ask for a tip without being too pushy and keeping the charm I wonder..? Maybe "As I mentioned before - tips are always appreciated if you had a good time" *smile-wink* Or is that being too redundant...

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    I need to work on hustling groups. I don't really like groups such as bachelor parties etc because they can be so annoying and cheap, but it's stupid to miss out on money and sometimes the groups are very easy, like when you take the right guy who loves your dance he will basically sell it to the rest of them.

    I also need to work on asking for tips after dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethis View Post
    I need to work on hustling groups. I don't really like groups such as bachelor parties etc because they can be so annoying and cheap, but it's stupid to miss out on money and sometimes the groups are very easy, like when you take the right guy who loves your dance he will basically sell it to the rest of them.

    I also need to work on asking for tips after dances.
    I rarely ever approach groups, too. I get too intimidated. But, a guy from a group saved my shit-poor money night, and helped me reach my average so maybe I should stop being such a scardy cat! 😄😄

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    I need to work more night shifts! I am such a day person. For instance, I worked a night last night and even though I went to bed at 4:00 am, I still woke up at 8:30. Night shifts always make me nervous for some reason, and I'm not sure why. Last night was great, I don't know why I allow myself to be intimidated out of better money (though I am one of if not *the* top earner on day shift, so it's easy for me to get complacent).

    I also need to work on my stage sets, particularly if I'm going to work more nights. I find myself getting bored with the same writhing around on the ground act I do over and over again. But I'm not sure how much more pole tricks will help. I just need to find more moves to do to boost my stage confidence and sell more dances from stage.

    I need to work out how to sell VIPs without promising any extras. Honestly at the clubs I work at I get really nervous whenever anyone even brings up VIP because I know they're just going to want to stick it in me back there.

    I really want to work on perfecting my appearance. Work out more, get better at applying makeup and doing my hair (seriously until recently all I could do was winged eyeliner and just leaving my hair the way it naturally is), get good matching outfits.

    And I'll echo the "I need to approach more groups" mantra. The last couple of times I have approached groups I have made good money--I don't know why I let it scare me so much.

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    not just learning more pole tricks, but being able to transition them sexily (thankfully finally got a pole for my apartment!)

    selling bottles/bottle service

    always flexibility (only 3 inches from full splits! and so close to getting feet behind my head, lol)

    following an actual work schedule so I can get better sleep

    keeping healthy snacks/meals at work so I don't eat so much at Denny's with everyone after

    getting into "stripper mode" before work so I'm not so awkward the first half hour or so

    getting better at hair styles (my roommate is a hair stylist, so that ought to help tenfold)

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    I need to work doing my make up at home ( always comes out 100 times better )

    To actually clean out my locker once a week and stop throwing my things in there randomly.

    talk to people instead of reading.

    to stop eat at work, unless I bring the snack from home.

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    i need to work on flexibility (i am nowhere near doing splits or any sort of awesome-looking backbend), getting more cute outfits, and learning some more moves. not necessarily "pole tricks" but working on FLOW. i am a sensual dancer, but i want to learn more stuff and not always do the same shit on stage.

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    I've mentioned this in other threads but should add it here, too.

    I need to work on my aggression towards guys who aren't buying dances and aren't tipping girls on stage. For realzies. I've found that when I keep my mouth shut and close with a positive "Oh, okay! Well, let me know if you change your mind later!" a number of non-spenders become spenders after some time and alcohol. They are usually the ones who only buy a single dance, or tip a few extra bucks on stage, but that's better than nothing. Plus, it takes energy to shame someone for not spending. Energy that I should be using literally anywhere else but there.

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    I don't know why but I can't stack dances to save my life at this club. I'm selling a lot of VIPs which is good. I would rather have a few big sales than do a bunch of dances, but in Chicago I got really good at stacking 5-10 single dances and here I'm lucky if I get 2 in a row.

    I'm not really sure how to fix it either. I guess just keep dancing until they stop me? That's what I used to do, but most of the guys here are so nice I would feel guilty doing that.


    I also need to remember to talk dirty! I'm out of practice and I was talking about a bunch of random stupid crap last night. I forget that talking about how "horny" I am is easy $$ and gets at least a dance if not a VIP.

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    I need to develop the perseverance and flexibility to deal with drunk guys. Despite their reputation as easy money, I usually get annoyed with their repetitive slurred gibbering and walk away before even trying to close a sale. Same with stupid guys, actually. Being an impatient snob costs me money!

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    Yeah , this is pretty effective. I mostly travel danced so I'd often talk about how lonely and horny I was out on the road ect....
    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday86 View Post
    I don't know why but I can't stack dances to save my life at this club. I'm selling a lot of VIPs which is good. I would rather have a few big sales than do a bunch of dances, but in Chicago I got really good at stacking 5-10 single dances and here I'm lucky if I get 2 in a row.

    I'm not really sure how to fix it either. I guess just keep dancing until they stop me? That's what I used to do, but most of the guys here are so nice I would feel guilty doing that.


    I also need to remember to talk dirty! I'm out of practice and I was talking about a bunch of random stupid crap last night. I forget that talking about how "horny" I am is easy $$ and gets at least a dance if not a VIP.

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    ^^Haha I started telling guys I'm "separated" from my husband (we are living apart for the next couple weeks, but we're not getting a divorce) then launch that into how lonely/horny I am. I feel like that gives me a good excuse when they ask for my number too. "Sorry I just separated from my husband. I'm not ready to date yet."
    I did finally remember to talk dirty last night...at around 1am. lol

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    I've been doing this sick thing where I torture myself by deliberately working on a slower shift.

    That's fucked up, right? Self sabotage bullshit. Broke that bad habit tonight, and it paid off biiiig time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday86 View Post
    I also need to remember to talk dirty! I'm out of practice and I was talking about a bunch of random stupid crap last night. I forget that talking about how "horny" I am is easy $$ and gets at least a dance if not a VIP.
    I needed this reminder too... It's unthinkable to me that anyone would seriously believe that I'm horny in that situation. But on drunk, pea-brained menfolk, this actually works. It's ridiculous. So easy it's embarrassing.

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