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    Default VIP "gun shy" guys?

    This is striking me as a very weird problem to have, and I've never experienced it at any other club.

    I've encountered a lot of guys at this particular club that don't want to go to VIP on the principle that it's too much 'pressure' and too much is expected. Some of them elaborate that they feel like they're expected to want extras back there, or that the girl will feel pressured to do more and they just want dances. There's also several that have been ripped off by some of the girls (charged for 4 dances when they did 2) and have sworn off VIP forever... it's like they feel safe from that on the floor, or I guess that if they do get swindled on the floor it'll only cost half as much. Some of them look utterly terrified if you even mention VIP.

    I don't think it's a BS line to avoid paying more.... I feel like I would have heard it at one of the other 5 clubs I've worked at, if it was... but I could be completely wrong and a complete idiot, and maybe I'll feel really stupid and like a noob when I get the responses to this thread

    At any rate, does anyone have any suggestions on how to get around these objections?
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    Default Re: VIP "gun shy" guys?

    There's no pressure hun, it's just an even more fun time with me! It's all about you and your comfort back there, that's why it's so popular!

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    Default Re: VIP "gun shy" guys?

    I would say something like I understand how you would feel pressured (validate their concern) but other customers who felt the same way decided to give it a try and after a couple dances they realized it was nothing to fear and had a good time.

    Then if they still don't do anything then leave their scary a$$ there to 'watch the stage show and have a beer' while you move on to greener pastures.
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    Default Re: VIP "gun shy" guys?

    I think in this situation, your job is to tell them WHY, beyond "more contact," VIP is still considered an upgrade. If they aren't looking for extras or high-contact dances, then what does VIP have to offer them? Uninterrupted dance / conversation time? Free drinks? Comfier seating options? These guys might also be afraid of euphemisms, so if you use phrases like "let's move somewhere more private" or "I'd love to be able to spend some uninterrupted time with you," then they might think that you're talking about extras, when really you're just trying to upsell vanilla aspects of the VIP area. So it seems like the more clear you are about the environment, the better.

    Does your club allow you to give 'tours' of the VIP area? "Let's go check out the VIP area before you decide - I want to show you where we'll be." And then, once you're up there and have pointed out the selling points, make it clear that having a block of uninterrupted time will allow you to entertain him to the best of your ability - sexy conversation, relaxing massage, dances, sharing drinks - without having to worry about counting individual dances and dealing with prying eyes.

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    Default Re: VIP "gun shy" guys?

    Thanks girls!

    They do not allow 'tours'... our VIP is just an upsell to a semi-private room. Unfortunately it is largely used for heavy contact, so a tour would probably backfire in this situation.

    I usually do tell them it lets us be uninterrupted since I get taken off stage rotation, the couches are much more comfortable than the floor chairs, away from other 'dance piggybacker' creepers, etc. I try to sell blocks of time, with the added-value assertion that the DJ cuts songs short and this way he gets more time for the money.

    Sometimes that stuff works, sometimes it doesn't. I've actually had one guy be so ridiculously uncomfortable when I did get him back there, that he freaked out after 2 songs. I'm starting to think with those guys I'll just have to cut my losses, give them a couple floor dances and take off, like miss a.p. said.
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    Default Re: VIP "gun shy" guys?

    I've never experienced this situation. The main VIP objection I hear is on price or perhaps I'm not his type. I've never seen someone afraid of going to VIP because they are afraid of being date-raped by the dancer.

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