Just got the kinklive newsletter saying its going to be part of Streamate . Goodbye 60 percent
What are your thoughts on this everyone ?


Just got the kinklive newsletter saying its going to be part of Streamate . Goodbye 60 percent
What are your thoughts on this everyone ?





I am extremely extremely upset by this.
I loved the site, even though the traffic was low.
Ruined my damn day![]()




That wouldn't be right at all if they took away the rates that those who originally signed up under KL were receiving. I signed up with them to get the higher rate. They should grandfather in the early adopters, but I'm not holding my breath.





I wonder what happens if we already have a SM account. Main reason I love my kink account (other than the good percentage) is that I have a domme persona that I enjoy and I send all my kinky guys there because it's more suited than SM.
I don't want to lose my domme name! Really don't want it combined with my mainstream SM account.
I'm sure I'll adjust but right now I'm not happy about this. Seems all the small sites just turn into whitelabels.
I am honestly shocked at them doing this though because I thought they had a great chance at making it due to the amazing brick and mortar studio/dungeon and their established fetish traffic. So disappointed.
At least they did say that on their kinklive whitelabel we will be listed at the very top of the page.
I'm trying to find it, the last newsletter I got was the 29th of May (2 days ago) and there's not a peep on there about SM.
Could you maybe do a cut'n'paste of the pertinent parts?
"Daily pay ALL the things!"
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I didn't get it either Katy, I thought maybe it was because I haven't cammed in almost a year.




Here you go "On behalf of Kink.com, we are excited to announce that beginning July 2015 KinkLive.com be powered by Streamate. Cam-to-Cam, Mobile Friendly, Geo-Blocking, all those features you requested, plus more traffic, will soon be yours on the largest and most feature rich webcam network available.
We will continue to recruit models and send traffic to KinkLive.com to build the brand. Kink.com models will be featured at the top of the KinkLive.com, above any other models on the site, so long as you have signed up through Kink.com.
We know you'll want to learn about getting your model account set up, what to do if you already have a Streamate model account, what the new compensation plan will look like, and more... Stay tuned to your email and our models' site - models.kinklive.com - for details. We are going to do everything we can to make the switch easy for you and to help you be successful on the new KinkLive site.
Send any questions you may have over to tamara at [email protected]. We will be sure to address your questions in upcoming emails and posts to the models' site.
At this time, we want to thank each and every one of you for participating in the KinkLive Beta site. Together we learned a lot and look forward to bringing the kinky fun to the new KinkLive.com!!
The KinkLive Beta site will continue to run until we switch to the new platform, so keep getting your kinky cam on!
See you on KinkLive!
tamara
General Manager, Kink Live
for the KinkLive Team
PinkGeisha: "NOTHING IMPRESSES A CAMMODEL MORE THAN A GUY THAT LETS HIS MONEY DO THE TALKING"
Here you go, Katy.
I am very annoyed. So much for my backup. I'm not signing any new contracts they add, I know they are going to remove the 60% eventually.
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snap!
PinkGeisha: "NOTHING IMPRESSES A CAMMODEL MORE THAN A GUY THAT LETS HIS MONEY DO THE TALKING"
Oh wow, that's going to be a shit storm to clean up.
If they do different rates, and you've been on both sites...my head hurts thinking about how we're going to integrate that on our own program.
And the "Kink.com models will be featured at the top of the KinkLive.com, above any other models on the site..." means we've either been lied to or its a new thing, as in, we've only been asking for this for a LONG time and repeatedly.
Anyways...
"Daily pay ALL the things!"
[email protected] - Skype: BoleynModels - "If you haven't heard a rumor by 10am, start one."



Noooo. I've been procrastinating signing up for KL but was seriously going to do it soon/this summer. That higher pay rate was mighty appealing, and I wanted to use it as a backup site since I'm currently only on SM... Too late now, faaack. >_<
Did this happen to another camsite at one point, it was a small site and then became a studio for SM, wasn't it xhamster or something?
I think you're thinking white-label, and lots of sites go that way...either whitelabeling for SM (xhamster) or Cams.com/Steamray (Icams). Please don't say studio, if they claim all the models for an SM studio we're going to have some real issues.
"Daily pay ALL the things!"
[email protected]s.com - Skype: BoleynModels - "If you haven't heard a rumor by 10am, start one."





I reaaalllyyy don't want to link my SM acct with my KL model one. I haven't cammed on KL for ages though, but still. I don't want it affecting my SM earnings, nor would I want my tier 2 status on SM to affect my KL earnings...boooooo. This is such crap. The only way I can see this getting better is if I magically walk away with weekly pay from SM essentially camming on the KL side of things.





I'm trying to see the positives in this as well. You know how can I spin this to benefit me? But since they didn't give all the details and specifics in the first email I don't see how it can. It's deliberately vague if you ask me. But this ..... "The KinkLive Beta site will continue to run until we switch to the new platform, so keep getting your kinky cam on!" cracks me up. This sounds like it's gonna be messy. But my wishful thinking is rooting for something like those shows from the SM calendar. Fuckafan,Pornstarcamhouse etc They could have shows live from the Armory. And why not build a fetish page? Same interface but with typical red and black scheme. A dungeon background. Streamate introduces Kinklive? This would convince me to forgo my original SM account. I don't think this is whats gonna happen. I need to get a job in marketing.
So much for signing up with them. =/
It might not be a big deal. We don't know any of the specifics yet. Let's not complain until we are certain there's something to be worried about.
I know this may not be a popular opinion, but KinkLive clearly has some issues running a camsite. I know for a fact I have done several sessions on there which were sketchy. For example, I had a guy spend like $800 on me from Egypt. I would have ever, ever accepted this show under any circumstances if it wasn't for KinkLive covering chargebacks. I'm positive it ended up in a chargeback, and I'm legitimately surprised the transaction was even allowed to go through. They need better payment filters at a minimum.
I'm the last person who wants KinkLive to sell out to Streamate...but I think they have a lack of experience and need someone to take over for them. It's pretty understandable in my opinion.
EDIT: I also wanted to add that I am really disappointed that this is happening because KinkLive had excellent support for models. They were fantastic for a big box site. They always got back to me within the same day, usually within the same hour. I never once had an issue with their support. It was heavenly. I hope they keep the support group because it was top notch. I also really appreciated having someone in my room to answer my questions any time I needed them answered. I'm extremely hopeful that they do not get rid of those services.
https://discord.gg/uj2YTKV <-- online chat group for camgirls, clipgirls, and strippers! (No men allowed.)
But if they dock our pay from 60% to 30%, I don't see how that doesn't completely alienate their models.
They haven;t said they are going to do that, yet. To quote the letter, "On behalf of Kink.com, we are excited to announce that beginning July 2015 KinkLive.com be powered by Streamate. Cam-to-Cam, Mobile Friendly, Geo-Blocking, all those features you requested, plus more traffic, will soon be yours on the largest and most feature rich webcam network available.".
"Powered by Streamate" could mean anything. Let's not jump to conclusions yet! It could mean they are using the same code, for example. It's hard to tell.
https://discord.gg/uj2YTKV <-- online chat group for camgirls, clipgirls, and strippers! (No men allowed.)
The letter specifically mentions a new compensation plan.
Fair enough, that's a very valid point and I completely understand where you are coming from. I'm just trying to say it's best to avoid jumping to conclusions when the information is limited and we don't know much yet. Don't you think it's wise to avoid stressing until we have the facts?![]()
https://discord.gg/uj2YTKV <-- online chat group for camgirls, clipgirls, and strippers! (No men allowed.)





Now THAT would be amazing, especially if the link on SM's page redirects to kinklive's whitelabel with all of us listed at the top.
SM is very very lacking in fetish options, mainly vanilla showing so this could be a way to funnel some fetish traffic our way.
Here's hoping.





Ugh, new compensation eh? I bet it's 40%!
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