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    Default Are you running out of Deodorant faster than you used to ???

    Interesting piece from the Wall St Journal ... from

    (snip)When spice maker McCormick & Co. started shipping 25% less pepper earlier this year in the same packaging at about the same price, it was engaging in an age-old means of getting frugal consumers to pay more for less.

    Consumer-products makers have used similar tactics as a way of pushing through effective price increases for everything from laundry detergent and tissues to yogurt and candy bars. In the food industry, it’s called “weight-out,” or putting less cereal or potato chips into a package. In toilet paper, the term is “de-sheeting,” when the number of tissues in a box or sheets on a toilet-paper roll are reduced.

    The regulatory term of art for putting less in a package than meets the eye is “nonfunctional slack fill.” That probably isn’t the term that came to mind for anyone who’s ever opened a bag of chips to find barely a handful inside. But with companies squeezed between thrifty shoppers and—in some cases—rising costs, it’s one that could become more familiar.

    Earlier this year, McCormick reduced the amount of pepper in its signature red-and-white aluminum tins. What once had eight ounces of pepper now has six. A medium container with four ounces has only three, and a two-ounce tin contains 1.5 ounces. The revised volumes were marked in the “net quantity of contents” label as mandated by federal regulation on the front of the tins.

    Chief Executive Alan Wilson said in January that pepper costs had risen sharply over the past five years and that the company had little room to raise prices any further..(snip)


    (snip)But too much extra room can get a manufacturer into trouble.

    ConAgra Foods Inc.’s Slim Jim was the target of a purported class-action suit filed in February for violating slack-fill rules. Procter & Gamble Co.’s Old Spice and Unilever PLC’s Axe deodorants faced similar complaints in suits filed in September.

    Companies have wide leeway to add more empty space in packaging. Some states, like California, allow for even more “safe harbors” that manufacturers can use to justify bigger packaging, according to Angel Garganta, an attorney at Venable LLP that specializes in false advertising and consumer-protection law.

    One way companies deflect blame (if not criticism) is by simply disclosing the actual new weight of the product on the side of containers.

    One common-sense safeguard to deflect accusations of deception is to print the correct amount of product on the outside, legal experts say. “Consumers are mistaken, but the critical thing is that they in fact told the truth, said Thomas J. Maronick, a marketing professor at Towson University and former Federal Trade Commission official.(snip)


    ^^^ this raises the obvious question regarding how many consumers actually take the time to read the label to see that their pepper shaker, candy bar, deodorant stick etc. now contains 25% less pepper, candy, or deodorant for the same price ???

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    Default Re: Are you running out of Deodorant faster than you used to ???

    Shit. i just typed out a massive response and then hit page back. I will try again tomorrow, it must be bed time...lol
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    Default Re: Are you running out of Deodorant faster than you used to ???

    I've noticed this with potato chips.

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    So two things.

    The cost of 'pepper'/insert item here' may have risen but perhaps if less money was spent on advertising and packaging the companies could still 'afford' to stock the item in the same quanities as consumersoriginally purchased.

    Homemade deodorant is as easy as vinegar and water in a spray bottle (look on the net for recipes).

    Ultimately, any conversation about economics is also a conversation about philosophy and cultural mores/values. Which can be a little exhausting on SW to be honest. Suffice to say I think that consumerism is the new religion and we are all the poorer for engaging in it...
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    I remember reading somewhere before about how companies do this to increase profits. I feel like if they do this, especially on daily use items, then they are probably creating more waste from the packaging and should be forced to make sure their items can be recycled.
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    Welcome to America the new 3rd World. I noticed AirBnb tenants suing because people are buying up high priced apartments but collecting daily rents. Hotels are complaining as there's no reason to pay to stay at one when you can have a nice bigger place that feels comfy.

    I woke up today to do laundry and found a man sleeping in the laundry room. That shit never happens here and that's when I realized the gentrification is turning my area into the next SF.

    I felt bad for the guy and told him it's Sunday (biggest fucking laundry day) he should move on before people wake up and do a few loads. He even tried that " ooh I left my wallet and keys somewhere and can't get in". No one gets that fucking comfy on a floor and if that were the case you would be sleeping in your car not the laundry floor curled up on the carpeting they put in there. <-- I didn't say this to him

    By the time I get to the dry cycle I open the door and noticed that this nasty fuck used the dryer as bathroom. I mean really? The grounds are full with lush landscape that late at night no one would even see a guy taking a piss but you really were so lazy that you pissed in a dryer?

    Also we have new washers but they're the same price but fucking small. I could only put half the clothes I had in my basket in there. I was like what? First it goes up from .75 to 1.00 to 1.25 now $1.50 then they started shortening the cycles. They raised the dryers too and gave them less time. So now I have to wash half the clothes in my basket at twice the money?

    Rent has gone from 1280 to next month $1700 fucking dollars.

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    Default Re: Are you running out of Deodorant faster than you used to ???

    Protip- dollar stores and discount marts. They often have non-perishable/toiletry items at a steep discount & if you have few allergies, are easy-going and willing to spend an extra 20 minutes browsing random items...it's worth shopping there.

    edit to add- random info but regarding deodorant, hygiene etc...I have to use deodorant (my body scent is nice but sometimes as bold as Yul Brenner as The King Of Siam)...I have to shave (Spanish roots..heh heh.) My skin and hair are more needy and delicate as time goes on. I cut corners in other areas so I can afford the things I need to look nice and feel nice. Not bashing on anyone's personal grooming. I just think companies know when they have people in a "head lock" in terms of what they charge for things.

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    Don't get me started about printer cartridges!

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    In the vein of this thread, I went thourhg about 2 years of making my home cleaning products... laundry detergent, dishwasher powder, dog shampoo. I've gottten less motivated and for two weeks have been using store bought chemicals- I have been sneezing like a mo fo and so have my dogs. Down with the man and his expensive toxic chemicals! I'm going to make my own!
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    Default Re: Are you running out of Deodorant faster than you used to ???

    Nope.

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    I use some thai deo made of salt, i have it for a year and by looking at it. It may last 50 years more. Interesting facts about. I never used to smell bad, but when i moved from one country to another i become really stinky and most interesting only right arm pit sticks like a goat!

    https://branchbasics.com/
    Im looking forward to buy this product to try. I dont really believe in chemical products, so this company looks like a good option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissJu View Post
    I use some thai deo made of salt, i have it for a year and by looking at it. It may last 50 years more. Interesting facts about. I never used to smell bad, but when i moved from one country to another i become really stinky and most interesting only right arm pit sticks like a goat!

    https://branchbasics.com/
    Im looking forward to buy this product to try. I dont really believe in chemical products, so this company looks like a good option.
    I can relate to this. I grew up in a desert climate & now live in a high plains/6 month winter climate. I only have body scent issue in summer but when I do it's gross. & The climate is hell on skin. I hate having to spend extra on toiletries but the alternative is looking like a naked mole rat...

    edit to add- ending threadjack, I make do with less items BUT spend more on things. Hence why discount marts are my friend.
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