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    Hi all,

    OK, this post/thread isn't meant to be poor me/pity me, I just can't work out where or why I am going wrong! Since Xmas my income has been WAY down, and that's despite adding 2 new cam sites, a clip site AND a sales site to my biz. I've just switched off from 9 hours of camming today, and have made the grand totals of: SM = 0 ... CB = 2 tokens ... AW ... 0.83 credits. This isn't unusual (although I don't usually do 9 hour shifts, it's usually 6-ish), and have been lucky if I take home £50 PER WEEK.

    So...I know I need to make more clips for C4S, that's not really an issue (apart from not currently having the time to film/edit/watermark etc) - I just don't know why guys aren't spending on me! I would be happy with minimum wage right now (£200-ish per week) just so I could pay some bills and save for a decent PC so that I can split-cam - but even then I feel despondent about that because it is like WHAT'S THE POINT?? if guys don't wanna see/spend on me anyway?

    And I am trying so hard not to fall into the trap of: 'Thinking it's crap Therefore it is crap' - vicious circle, but it's so difficult to be and FEEL positive when the bills and debts are piling up.

    I revamped my AW profile a month or so ago, and that worked for all of 2 days, and then the paying guests all disappeared again.

    I plan to be a bit more time-management conscious after this month (too much RL stuff happening), but apart from that, is there any advice you good ladies can throw at me to help me see more clearly? Because the longer this goes on, the more I get brain-fucked with needing money=trying to earn money=not making money=unpaid bills=needing money merry-go-round.

    Thank you for reading

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    oh, and another thing (as edit post isn't working for me) - I totally want to get into selling my used stuff (panties, shoes etc) and have advertised them on AW, Twitter, my web site and ELM, but nobody wants them!! I don't even get dirty wanker emails about them! I signed up for pantydeal, but can't afford the subscription fee at the mo, cos things really are that bad :/

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    Lately I'm noticing the two things that make the most difference is catching busy times and being sure to choose an enticing profile pic. My traffic seems very tied to the profile pic (and the ones the guys like seems to be the one I hate lol). Maybe change your hours a bit and experiment with different profile photos.


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    What's your computer & upload speed? It seems really odd that you would make so little in 9 hours. Are you using the encoder? Is your stream clear or is it choppy? If your setup is good yet you're still not making anything... I would probably focus on filming clips. In 9 hours you could film & upload a ton of clips, and you're bound to sell something sooner or later. Research the fetishes you're interested in that you think you can do well, and start with those. Whichever ones sell best, focus on filming more of the same type.

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    I so agree with this because if that's the OP in her avatar, she looks hot! I'm guessing it has to be "poor" video stream!
    Quote Originally Posted by Smurfette View Post
    What's your computer & upload speed? It seems really odd that you would make so little in 9 hours. Are you using the encoder? Is your stream clear or is it choppy? If your setup is good yet you're still not making anything... I would probably focus on filming clips. In 9 hours you could film & upload a ton of clips, and you're bound to sell something sooner or later. Research the fetishes you're interested in that you think you can do well, and start with those. Whichever ones sell best, focus on filming more of the same type.
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    I haven't been working steady, but I know people are still buying. It may be a focus issue. I think you should figure out the site you were doing best on, before your dip, and focus on advertising the 1 cam site and 1 clip site. Stick to a schedule, it will make tracking slow times easier. But take the time to advertise. Use auto tweet on C4S, a quick tweet to let people know you are signing on, or a snapshot to show people what they missed out on when you log off. Then once you are at a comfy income level, add an additional site that is similar to split cam or switch to during slow periods. Like if CB is your primary, split with MFC since they are similar. SM you would need another private based site. Clips can always be saved and uploaded to additional sites in the future also. Some people aren't meant to have tons of eggs at the same time (I am one of them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Lately I'm noticing the two things that make the most difference is catching busy times and being sure to choose an enticing profile pic. My traffic seems very tied to the profile pic (and the ones the guys like seems to be the one I hate lol). Maybe change your hours a bit and experiment with different profile photos.
    Yep, these are my usual tricks, and they're not working at all this year :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurfette View Post
    What's your computer & upload speed? It seems really odd that you would make so little in 9 hours. Are you using the encoder? Is your stream clear or is it choppy? If your setup is good yet you're still not making anything... I would probably focus on filming clips. In 9 hours you could film & upload a ton of clips, and you're bound to sell something sooner or later. Research the fetishes you're interested in that you think you can do well, and start with those. Whichever ones sell best, focus on filming more of the same type.
    I'm not using the SM encoder, cos neither of my computers can handle it (crashes after about 5 mins). Speeds COULD be better (6 down and less than 1 up?), but again, tied to what my computers can handle. Streams on CB and AW are excellent (so I'm told), SM isn't choppy but isn't HD or good quality (and STILL no sound!) - but I rarely get more than 2 or 3 guys in my SM/AW room at one time anyway with huge long breaks between visitors.

    But yeah, you're very right regarding clips. I think if I do a week of that INSTEAD of camming (then spread out the uploads/activation over the course of a month-ish) then the income SHOULD reflect it AND replace the 'lost' camming income. And will give me a welcome break from camming! Thanks, that has been very helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    I so agree with this because if that's the OP in her avatar, she looks hot! I'm guessing it has to be "poor" video stream!
    Oh thank you my darling I must admit, that confidence boost was very much needed after these last few months

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    no sound...that might be a huge issue, is there any way you can get sound? Are you camming with a built in cam? Speed could somehow factor in also, before when my speeds were like yours, after I was logged on for a time, it would start to get choppy, laggy, and just have issues that I didn't even know of usually. This is my speed now: which is a huge difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbean View Post
    no sound...that might be a huge issue, is there any way you can get sound? Are you camming with a built in cam? Speed could somehow factor in also, before when my speeds were like yours, after I was logged on for a time, it would start to get choppy, laggy, and just have issues that I didn't even know of usually. This is my speed now: which is a huge difference
    I have no sound on SM, and I have no idea why, because I have sound on CB and AW and Skype absolutely fine with no problems.

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    Based on what you wrote, you have a few strikes against you. A. bad upload speed B. Not using the encoder C. Weak computer can't handle the Encoder

    That will definitely hurt your income!
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    Yes what others said, if u cant provide good HD stream & sound these might be the reasons. For a while i had a camera that was good but not crystal clear picture, i was doing okay but not that great, after i got me the logitech c920 things changed for the better. Still i was using the encoder, sound & great pc, great connection. No matter how good u look & how talented you are, if u dont have good equipment u are in disadvantage.

    Regarding the sound, if u not using the encoder on SM & go by the standard video, make sure u right click with ur mouse on your live picture while streaming & pick Settings (if u run windows on ur machine, if u run MAC i dont know how to get to settings tab). See the small window that pops up, there u can select ur camera, microphone & some other stuff, check all tabs and make sure u select ur mic. that should fix the sound issue, i am certain u just did not set things up properly, if u have sound on other sites then that's the issue on SM most probably.

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    If you could get your hands on a good computer, that would compensate tha bad upload a bit.At least it did for me.

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    I have the same internet speeds as the OP and it definitely holds me back a bit, though I rarely get complaints about my feed thanks to the logitech c910. My laptop is a few years old, HP i7. I can use the encoder but it always jacks my ping speed up to the thousands so I just stream in HD Wide and get decent traffic.
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    I'm going to agree with Smurfette. Your best bet is to go head strong into clips. There are plenty of ladies out there that exclusively make content, and make plenty to live of of. Plus you said that skype works for you just fine. Focusing on the clips and maybe signing up for Loveshooks site (payment processing for skype and custom content) is how I would go if I were you. Down the line you can upgrade your computer and go back to streaming if that's what you even want to do at that point. Just my opinion.

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    While I agree that those upload speeds, a computer that can't handle the encoder and lack of audio on SM are definitely big issues, it sounds like you were doing fine without them before? You said things have only been bad since Xmas, so I suppose the question might be what has changed since then? If you were making decent money with these tech issues before, why not now? Are customers just getting more picky about the quality of feeds as more and more girls become able to stream in really clear HD? Or has something about you changed, your look, your hustle, your persona?

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    Just wanted to let you know you're not alone. Even with a strong laptop I'm still not making shit. I'm going to see if logging in more helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post

    Regarding the sound, if u not using the encoder on SM & go by the standard video, make sure u right click with ur mouse on your live picture while streaming & pick Settings (if u run windows on ur machine, if u run MAC i dont know how to get to settings tab). See the small window that pops up, there u can select ur camera, microphone & some other stuff, check all tabs and make sure u select ur mic. that should fix the sound issue, i am certain u just did not set things up properly, if u have sound on other sites then that's the issue on SM most probably.
    Yes, done all that. I can't get it to work on my laptop - with either built in or external cam - and I don't know why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niccol View Post
    If you could get your hands on a good computer, that would compensate tha bad upload a bit.At least it did for me.
    I intend to. Just need the money first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublerainbow View Post
    I have the same internet speeds as the OP and it definitely holds me back a bit, though I rarely get complaints about my feed thanks to the logitech c910. My laptop is a few years old, HP i7. I can use the encoder but it always jacks my ping speed up to the thousands so I just stream in HD Wide and get decent traffic.
    That's the thing - I rarely get complaints about my feed either, I just don't seem to have the traffic or footfall. Highest amount of people in my room on CB yesterday was 10. Mostly greys. A couple of light blues, one of whom begged me for a PM to "ask my advice". I shot him a "hi" and he replied "hello". I replied "?" and he replied "is it free to have a private show with you". AAAAND blocked. I only PMed him cos I was so bored and thought the 'advice' he wanted might have been something I could have a giggle about :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora14 View Post
    I'm going to agree with Smurfette. Your best bet is to go head strong into clips. There are plenty of ladies out there that exclusively make content, and make plenty to live of of. Plus you said that skype works for you just fine. Focusing on the clips and maybe signing up for Loveshooks site (payment processing for skype and custom content) is how I would go if I were you. Down the line you can upgrade your computer and go back to streaming if that's what you even want to do at that point. Just my opinion.

    Thank you, and yes, indie camming was next on my list But of course what with feeling so crap about the job, I hadn't bothered to do anything about it. I think that's my job for the day, getting a blurb written about me and then contacting loveshooks to get a profile started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna66 View Post
    While I agree that those upload speeds, a computer that can't handle the encoder and lack of audio on SM are definitely big issues, it sounds like you were doing fine without them before? You said things have only been bad since Xmas, so I suppose the question might be what has changed since then? If you were making decent money with these tech issues before, why not now? Are customers just getting more picky about the quality of feeds as more and more girls become able to stream in really clear HD? Or has something about you changed, your look, your hustle, your persona?
    Indeed I was, then my income took a nosedive and hasn't picked up. Not much has changed with me really, I've lost 30 pounds but on a frame that's carrying over 300 pounds it makes little difference in looks. This year I seem to be attracting the Fat Admirers and Feeders, so I did try for about a month to embrace that, but the quality of clients was poor - one FA called me names and harrassed me for my address because he wanted to send 3 pizzas round so he could watch me eating them (he's blocked now btw!), so I took that off my 'services'.

    I get the feeling that guys on AW are just bored of me. Old custies are still around because I see them leaving feedback for the 'new to AW' BBWs. And I know a couple of them don't like glasses because they've told me! But I can't see to read the screen without them, so it's tuff really.

    I'm going to have a think about my hustle and persona...

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    The quality of Your equipement is a very big deal when your working in streamate.. it will Hurt Your placement Real bad.. Also no encoder hurts Your placement.. I really think that is the reason why you have so little traffic.. Also like other ladies said.. stick to a schedule. Maybe rent a computer would be an option for you if you dont have a big amount right now? Good Luck

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    Also, focus not just on getting new customers, but hooking the ones you have serviced. I took my regulars for granted and they left, so now I put 100% into every show, determined to keep them coming back for more.

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