Question: Are you in it for a short term hustle OR longterm girlfriend/suggar daddie arrangement?
Because how you steer things greatly differs for each



Question: Are you in it for a short term hustle OR longterm girlfriend/suggar daddie arrangement?
Because how you steer things greatly differs for each




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Last edited by xStacey; 07-11-2015 at 06:36 AM.



That's good, you are smart.
He is already taking the lead so allow him to do so while remaining the mysterious unicorn he thinks you are.
You are not from money so be careful, he will find it refeshing if you are about experiences vs. money.
Remember he deals with money all day-it is tedious for him.
Allow him to get to know your real story-he will feel compelled to make your life comfortable more and more as he values you over time.
**Allow him 2 non sex dates as an initial "get to know each other"-keep things light and fun. Let him bring up the subject of money. but DO NOT agree to an allowance yet.
*NO SEX-1st rule.
*NO "sit downs" to discuss business, it is his job to do that.
*NO demands-how many dime a dozen chicks do the whole "sit down and talk" just to frustrate a potential SD.
*Focus on becoming the person he has GREAT EXPERIENCES with.
*Suggest that you would love to go here and there etc etc-pick out really interesting places you really do want to go to (make sure they are high end) and solidify the experience for him as being the best ever fun and laughing etc. (He will foot the bill you dont need to address that, just have an amazing time and show genuine gratitude)
*Let him offer, you "recieve" graciously nothing more.
Any problem arise:
*Show your displeasure with him by becoming unavailable. never berate him.
*Do not bring up money ever. Make it a non issue. HOWEVER when he is not willingly offering, you no longer willingly offer your time.
*Think about what would make you different than the money grubbers he would have encountered 100x before.
FUTURE:
*your first goal is to become irreplaceable, interesting and original-those are things money cannot buy.
*Stay away from shoes and handbags-it is cliche and fucking gross.
*Your longterm composure will result in an apartment/car/world travel together/school.
*Build slowly over time.
*dont be a timid little mouse or he will know that you have found out how rich he is-let him reveal it to you over time.
*take notice of all the little things-it is your job to get to know him.
Good luck babe, any questions feel free to ask.
That is a good basic start for a long term high wealth friend.
EDIT: Just re reading you OP I have picked up on a few Red Flags with regards to his behaviour. Stick to being very composed.
Last edited by sophianz; 06-25-2015 at 09:00 PM.
You could always ask NoRegrets lol! But then again he said he couldn't give away the 'secret sauce'.
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”




This is exactly what I have been thinking! I thought about it back and forth all day ever since I wrote this thread.
I don't want to waste my time but I was wondering if it would be worth it charging him upfront X amount for my time and company for the evening. I am not in dire need of money right now, I make a good living and it's not some hundreds that's gonna change my life. I'm afraid he'll quickly lose interest because it was too easy and I appear cheap just offering a price for take out. He'll think I do that with every customer and won't believe he's the only customer I've done that with.
The only other customer I saw OTC for dinner years ago, was a regular who was infatuated with me but didn't have that much money. I charged him the amount I wanted out of the dinner and knew he had nothing more to offer.
But with this guy, I thought I might be able to get more out of him by not giving him a price right away. He's exactly as you describe, he likes to take the lead and he seems to know how those types of relationships work. I have met a lot of customers at work and he really doesn't seem to be the type who expects my time and as much as he could out of me for free. I was thinking maybe he will bring up the subject during dinner or give me money before/after, or he might not, it's a risk to take by not discussing it beforehand, although I doubt he ... I don't have that much to lose, it's a couple of hours of my time, it's the summer I don't have assignments or exams coming up and I don't do much during my off days. I mean it'd be nice to be sure I'll get paid before going to get dinner with him but I'd hate to lose out on better opportunities by selling myself short for some hundreds or a couple of grands...
I'm still debating...
What did you mean by red flags?
The post was super helpful, great advice, thanks so much!
Last edited by xStacey; 06-25-2015 at 10:05 PM.




He was the one talking about high net worth men and how to hustle them because he is allegedly one himself https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ey-dancers-TIA
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”



the only thing a man could tell you is how HE would want to be hustled.
these guys could be totally different personality types





maybe i'm alone here, but if i met a guy like that and was attracted to him i would aim for the stars and try to become wifey. i know lots of girls are not interested in that for personal reasons but that would be the ultimate goal for me. and that would mean no asking for dollar amounts like a common hooker.



Who would ever want to be wifey?
Sounds like the biggest undersell of all time.
Fuck that with a big F
There is no faster track to becoming totally disempowered and losing your vitality as a woman than being a trophy wife
(BTW get in line with the other 3000 ladies all wanting to be "wifed up" by a rich guy)




i definitely disagree. once you are wifey you are totally in the power seat. wifey gets all advantages and resources, while mistresses and sugar babies live in the shadow an can never fully take advantage of all the things that come with being in a super wealthy and well connected family. obviously not if you sign a crazy pre nup.



The responsibilities of being "wifey" are not worth the return on investment (IMO)
I would never want to be friends with his friends, go to events I hate because its what couples do, see people I detest and have to play nice, fit in with his family.
You are forgetting the 24/7 live in "face" that you must maintain.
Per hour those returns are not worth it. (IMO)
I would never want to grow old on the arm of a man who knows how replaceable you are, who may not let you forget it either.
Without going into too much detail, among other there was one of my past that stood out:
I was offered "wifey" when I was 22 to a 55 year old whos wealth was upward of 20M. He was a very lovely and soft personality. Not a tyrant or anything crazy.
But the noose does tighten around your kneck no matter what. There are always expectations and many that are not laid out at the start of the deal.
Although the benefits financially were going to be written up legally and he had no issue with that, I would have spent my best years being a pocket princess to just 1 guy which really freaked me out.
The level of "live in" that is expected of you is intense.
Travelling was mandatory at the drop of a hat and it was not always to dream places.
Asshole friends, spending hours at dinners with drunken rich assholes.
I couldnt be myself- there is no financial "worth" to living someone elses life.
There was a constant string of patronizing older people who wouldnt have any kind of real conversation with me even though I was actually pretty smart and well read.
Not to mention his daughters who were older than me. It just gets to a point where you feel very isolated/ very lonely.
Give it a year of being "wifey" and you become a caged animal.
The list goes on.
Sometimes you want to just not have to be "on" at all times.
Those little luxuries are important.
EDIT: I forgot to include, things came to a head for me when I met a group of "wifeys" who had been divorced. They were then working as high class escorts to afford the maintenace of their settlement houses. (Yep these possessions are fucking expensive to maintain) I really liked them and they were still very beautiful etc, but there was always this sadness about them.
Here they were STILL at a mans lesiure at 45...STILL waiting to be called on...and they fucking hate men.
Except now they had lost their confidence, even though on the outside they didnt show it-once you become friends with them you saw it.
Last edited by sophianz; 06-28-2015 at 07:55 PM.



Yeah it definitley was. There was nothing wrong with being escorts, but they definitely did not enjoy it.
I remember one saying to me how she couldn't handle the late nights anymore & one of the others was ooozing man hatred at all times (she was left with a disabled child who she loved but of couse it put alot of strain on her)
Ugh, yeah it really affected me




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Last edited by xStacey; 06-30-2015 at 05:12 AM.




Good luck Stacey!! Keep us all posted. Enjoy it, dont be nervous. You'll do great![]()





sophianz already said it better than I could. In truth "getting wifed up" even to a really rich guy has drawbacks, sometimes dangerous ones. I bailed on dating a rich guy & not long after he got involved in some serious trouble b/c he almost killed someone due to his negligent party boy ways. (He had made it clear that a prenup & his ability to fuck anything that moved was a requirement of continuing to date him, so I opted out of that.) In the long run he became the loser he was always meant to be....I just caught him at the top of his downward spiral.





The guy already established this was going to be play4pay, so the wifey idea......when pigs fly. This man is already use to objectifying women, and married to someone like that who you're already physically attracted to as well is a quick way to get butt hurt. No money is worth the heart ache.
Anyway, good luck to you xStacy. I hope you juice the shit out of his wallet. Lol.![]()




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Last edited by xStacey; 07-01-2015 at 10:09 AM.



Just be careful. It sounds like not only is he very successful, but he's from an elite family as well. Men like that are not to be trusted up front. That's someone who's used to getting absolutely everything in life and also knows how to skillfully take. I'm not saying he's definitely a bad person, but he's a dangerous person to be sure. He will definitely know how to manipulate people, for better or for worse.
KNOW YOURSELF. Know exactly what you want (Do you want a romantic boyfriend or a sugar daddy? You can't have both!) Know what you are and aren't willing to do. Know what your limits are for compromising (Say you go in looking for a sugar daddy. What would it take for him to convince you to be his girlfriend? Would the sex have to be great? Would it require months of dating to be sure he's a nice guy? Would he have to meet your friends/family to prove his intentions are true?) because lets face it, sometimes our wants and needs change in a relationship but it's important that they change on your terms, not on his. Don't say "Well he was paying me and then I started doing a few free dates on the side and now I guess we're dating." Keep it straightforward and on your terms!
Don't let money blind you. Whatever you do, don't think, "Oh my gosh, this rich guy actually likes me!" and then completely ignore him doing something which you normally wouldn't tolerate, like being mean/abusive, just because he has money/status. Hold him to the same standards as everyone else. If he's a good guy and wants a real connection, he will value your scrutiny more than any other possession. He's not used to being challenged or held to normal people standards. If he's not such a great guy, he won't take well to you challenging him and will expect you to idolise him, in which case you need to make sure you don't get too emotionally close.
Don't be afraid to talk to him about your life. He might find it refreshing in an almost vicarious way. A few nights ago, the CEO of a large company spent the night curled up with me in my twin bed trying to stay quiet so as not to wake up my roommate. xD I cooked dinner, he walked around the city with me, we hung out at my favorite dive bar. He was overjoyed and wants to do it again. There are some things about poverty/middle class that we take for granted. It's simple, it's comforting. Wealth and status are very isolating and they can really take the joy out of life. A lot of high-level executives have been known to dress down and even put on wigs or fake beards, pretending to be homeless people or just hanging around bohemian spots. You may find that as much as his lifestyle thrills and excites you, your life is probably glamorous in its own way to him.



Woah, shouldn't you just meet up and see how he leads things?
Stalking will lead to building it up bigger than it needs to be.
BTW you mentioning the library thing (there are only about 60 in total ALL findable) and that particular sum means that anyone viewing this thread could google it and narrow it down to under 5 possible options.
I dunno if its really that much of a good idea to go this far down the rabbit hole.
Maybe I am being a conspiracy theorist - but I would hate to hear a horror story of him finding out and it ruining your trust.
Obviously its your hustle, you choose what you want to do-just my 2 cents![]()

In my experience men who try to make an impression by talking about how much money they have or spend are not looking for something long term. Make sure you get what you want before giving him what he wants.
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