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    Default Girls please read this is important

    There is currently a proposal to lift the anonymity for website owners.

    In short this means all of us girls who own/will own a website of our own will be subject to our REAL NAMES and IDENTITIES being available online for anyone to look at.

    THIS IS A HUGE DEAL.
    I cannot stress enough how dis empowering this is for women in the sex industry.
    It will mean that we have to get someone else to essentially "own" our domain names if we want to remain private.

    PLEASE FIGHT THIS FOR THE FUTURE OF GIRLS WHO OWN THEIR OWN WEBSITES.

    There is a pre written email for you to use at this link-just click the "email" option:

    https://www.respectourprivacy.com/
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    How can this be legal? Especially for site owners who have legally purchased anonymity already? Wouldn't getting someone to buy our domain be the same thing as having the hosting site allowing for site owner privacy? Where (location wise) would this be applicable to? Would I be where sites, owners or hosting companies are?

    Or is their main gripe that they want visibly a physical name accountable as an owner to a website? In that case, I just see someone being an official site registerer and taking a fee to own sites in people's behalf, with let's say a contract stipulating the circumstances. Like, someone registering a ton of sites on behalf of others. Wtf still messed up though!

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    It is real and it WILL affect us badly.'

    Full info here: https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-conc...rivacy-150625/

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    No that is a very dangerous senario.
    I have dealt with many ladies who essentially have been "held hostage" over someone else owning thei domain and after a falling out etc they refuse to give it back.

    It dis empowers us YET AGAIN.

    My real name is everywhere and I own over 100 sites but this is not ok for any of us.

    The girls who want to remain anonymous will have to rely on someone else to put their name up like they are little children not businesswomen.


    Nothing is Illegal in the wild west of the internet.
    They make whatever "laws" they want to battle piracy-its always ALL about profits and vunerable minorities get swept up with the catchnets.
    It will mean eventually that we would have to have another person essentially own our domain name for us, just to protect our real names.

    First we battle fucking street pimps NOW we have to battle internet pimps.

    Girls do your part and speak out against it at the original link, there is an easy form to fill out.

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    We have this in the UK already - if you own/run a biz website, you cannot hide the WHOIS details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatBBW View Post
    We have this in the UK already - if you own/run a biz website, you cannot hide the WHOIS details.
    Yup, if you have a .co.uk you have to have visible WHOIS. This is fucking ridiculous. In fighting piracy the real problem is hosts who won't cooperate to take down sites with stolen content. Sigh.

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    Yeah same here in NZ.
    That is not what I am talking about.
    By choosing a .com you can safegaurd yourselves. unless this law passes then its a fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatBBW View Post
    We have this in the UK already - if you own/run a biz website, you cannot hide the WHOIS details.
    That's only if you have a .co.uk domain. .com is fine.

    If it's extends to all domains I'll just use a fake address and name x
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    i have just updated my website and asked to pay whois can't remember how much for the privacy again and i am in the uk, but if this is the case that its gonna come to i will delete my website, fuck i have enough stalkers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    That's only if you have a .co.uk domain. .com is fine.

    If it's extends to all domains I'll just use a fake address and name x

    ok thats cool, i was going to say i only just got the email to carry on protecting my who is in the last 2 months..........just hope this lasts with the .com

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    You cant use a fake name ok, it doesnt work like that.
    They are targeting internet anonymity this means it will be attached to a REAL NAME or you will be denied service.

    I have thrown this link up everywhere for a reason, it is very serious.

    I would suggest doing the research available on the subject so you are ahead of the curve

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    e-mailed, going to call when I can too. reposting link on other sites.
    Thank you for the heads up Sophianz!!

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    I wonder how this would for for those who register their domains in their business names.
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    This is scary. They're(the government and its associates) are really trying to take every bit of privacy we have. Eventually I wanted to make another website but if this goes through I won't be doing that. I feel like this should be a bigger issue. It doesn't just effect camgirls it effects dommes, porn stars, escorts and everyone who owns a website.

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    There is more information and commentary here as well: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...rs-identities/ (A good site anyways for general online security info)

    Thanks for bringing this up Sophia.
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    I wonder if hiding under an LLC or Business name would bypass this. Sort of like some states allow lotto winners to collect under a trust? If not, I'm sure they'll be a niche in lawyers or individuals willing to pimp out their names. There are people who act as a forefront for companies who wish to open offshore accounts and such and they get paid handsomely. This sucks but you know someone will figure out a work around. Also, I have several domain names as well but I used hosting with a fake name and used a prepaid debit card. We might have to start covering our tracts like that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sophianz View Post
    You cant use a fake name ok, it doesnt work like that.
    They are targeting internet anonymity this means it will be attached to a REAL NAME or you will be denied service.

    I have thrown this link up everywhere for a reason, it is very serious.

    I would suggest doing the research available on the subject so you are ahead of the curve
    I've had my websites for over 7 years and I've used a fake name and a prepaid debit card. It's worked fine for me.




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    You will be contacted eventually.
    It will become like what facebook "real name" policy did to users privacy.
    Using a fake name means you never owned your domain in the first place-not something you want when you are building a brand/fan base

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    LLC are directly searchable and show your real name now already if you are the director.
    That was a hit I took which basically meant me not giving a fuck if my personal details were findable.
    however i am in a unique position being "out"

    I worry for the girls who are not out/ have no support/ have had stalker issues/ trolls will target/ internet review boards will target.

    It puts power into the hands of people knowing a girls real identity
    OR t puts the power into someone elses hands when they have to step in and "own" your website-the amount of times i have seen domains held hostage after a fight are numerous.


    If it goes through, I may start a service for adult industry girls (free) where they can regsister under my name/my company because my details are out now anyways.
    At least it would be safe knowing it was another worker instead of some greedy web guy.
    I dunno, Ill keep an eye on the bill.

    The best thing to do is send in the predone email on the link i provided instead of arguing about it on here which does no good

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    wonder if hiding under an LLC or Business name would bypass this. Sort of like some states allow lotto winners to collect under a trust? If not, I'm sure they'll be a niche in lawyers or individuals willing to pimp out their names. There are people who act as a forefront for companies
    LLC are directly searchable and show your real name now already if you are the director.
    In point of fact, only LLC's that are registered in certain US states make directors identities part of the 'public record'. An LLC registered in, say, Wyoming, need not enter the owner's / director's name into the 'public record' ... only the name of the Wyoming registered agent ( who is essentially pimping out their name / identity ). Disclosure of owner's / director's information requires that probable cause be presented to a Wyoming judge ... which, while certainly still a possibility, is much more difficult than anyone with internet access simply running an LLC database search for LLC's registered in certain other states. Similarly, the name of the Wyoming registered agent and Wyoming address of the LLC can be used when registering a domain name ... which creates a fairly effective layer of separation around the actual LLC / website owner's identity and personal details for whois and other searches.
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    There are many affected internationally, not just US.

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    ^^^ Indeed this is true. However, so far we haven't discussed what's really going on in regard to these calls to outlaw 'proxies' ... thus potentially making the real name and real personal info of commercial domain owners publically accessible.

    In a nutshell, the mainstream 'entertainment' industry ... i.e. Hollywood studios, record labels, other content providers ( like sports leagues ) ... have banded together under a new organization they named the 'Coalition for Online Accountability'

    That coalition has petitioned ICANN ... which is responsible for domain registrations and WHOIS databases ... to ban the continued use of 'proxies' for commercial websites. Such 'proxies' presently serve as an intermediate barrier between the 'public' and privately owned domains.

    The basis for the coalition's petition is a claim that 'proxies' aid and abet copyright violators, as well as a claim that 'proxies' insert an unnecessary layer of bureaucratic procedure / delay in copyright enforcement efforts ( from DMCA's to outright piracy prosecutions ). The coalition's petition also claims that any domain / website which conducts online business transactions of any sort should be considered as commercial, thus banned from using 'proxies' and forced to provide accurate ( most likely VERIFIED as accurate ) information regarding actual domain ownership.

    Besides the mainstream 'entertainment' industry, there are other major companies who ( indirectly ) support their position. For example, Google makes its living by collecting 'private' data, thus advocates a position that internet 'privacy' should be limited. Most recently, Google has taken a position that a person's 'faceprint' ( i.e. the biometric data resulting from a facial recognition scan ) has no privacy protections.

    And on top of private companies, there are also government law enforcement and tax enforcement agencies who also indirectly support the same position that internet 'privacy' should be limited. From their perspective, the 'proxies' aid and abet criminal internet enterprises and internet tax 'cheats', as well as inserting bureaucratic complexity / delays which hamper law enforcement and tax enforcement efforts. And most recently, where the US is concerned, increased ( international ) copyright enforcement is a stated objective of the recently passed 'Fast Track Trade Authority' law.

    For the sake of SW girls, I hope I'm wrong about this. But my purely personal opinion is that, with all of the 'high horsepower' forces behind this petition, and with the legal basis for the petition being based on the concept that operating a business is a 'privilege' rather than a 'right' ( the same legal logic which requires businesses to register / obtain licenses ), IMHO it is merely a matter of time before 'proxies' are banned for commercial domains.

    As such, I had already taken personal measures to incorporate in a US state which provides minimal disclosure potential of actual corporation ownership, as well as registering my domain in the name of that corporation ( with my corporation's registered agent's identity being 'fronted' instead of my own identity )
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    I live in the UK and have a .co.uk domain and it doesn't show my real name.
    I registered the domain under my business name, which is not my real business name but just the first letters.

    So, if someone looks up my whois they will see something like "owner: HNB" (Haha, Nope Bitch).

    My host did not have a problem with that.

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    Melonie you are 100% correct. I am glad you wrote that out because I CBF to do it.
    this is a move against copyright infringement and piracy so of course it has major power players backing it. Once agagain vunerable minorities get swept up in laws that want to be a 1 size fits all situation. The reason I have been so aggressively pushing with this subject is the girls need to PREPARE NOW.
    If it passes and you have not found suitable arrangements you will be left grabbing for help which may not be in your best interests.
    There WILL be sharks wanting to offer their names for girls to use for a "price" -and I don't like that at all.

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    Well let's just hope it doesn't pass I'm all for thinking positively on this. Thanks Melonie and Sophianz for shedding light.




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