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    I must say I am excited about this.

    http://boingboing.net/2015/06/26/sup...-marriage.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us...iage.html?_r=0

    Me personally, I have always dated men but I have always had interest in women too. I also have always wanted to get married and loathe the fact that most men are traditional and expect the woman to wait for them to ask. Hell I'll either have to find a guy thats cool with me asking or I'll be waiting for f*cking eternity.

    Visions pop into my head of me asking a woman to marry. I am glad that now all the states recognize marriage between same sex couples and that same sex couples have the same legal marital rights as heterosexual couples.

    My only regret is that I didn't start broadening my horizons and dating women sooner and not in a long term relationship so I could go get married today!

    Any lesbians, gays, transgender couples getting married now???
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    Yay! It's about time! This is an exciting time to be alive. I'm really happy for the LGBT community.

    I don't plan on ever getting married, but that's because I have commitment phobia.
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    there aren't a lot of times when i can say I'm proud of my country ( or the law makers of my country) but today was one of them. finally! one huge step forward

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    its about time!

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    I support it. Years ago I had these fantastic gay neighbors who were in a long relationship. The one partner died and the other got screwed out of everything such as their house and the deceased partner's business. The family got it all, though they disowned him when he came out. I know many gay people and they deserve what anyone else does. Besides, straight people make a mockery out of marriage (I'm straight) with multiple marriages and the like so could gay marriage make it any worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Besides, straight people make a mockery out of marriage (I'm straight) with multiple marriages and the like so could gay marriage make it any worse?
    Yeah, Gay people were obviously not part of that skyrocketing divorce rate. The whole "i'm defending marriage" schtick was mind boggling. Heterosexuals have the right to claim the sanctity of marriage the moment they quit cheating on their spouses and not one second sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    Yeah, Gay people were obviously not part of that skyrocketing divorce rate. The whole "i'm defending marriage" schtick was mind boggling. Heterosexuals have the right to claim the sanctity of marriage the moment they quit cheating on their spouses and not one second sooner.
    Exactly, though to be fair I'm sure some gay people will make a mockery too but the straights got there first. I know someone anti gay marriage but they've been married several times so talk about hypocritical.

    Some politicians are comparing it to polygamy but it's not the same thing. It's also not the same as marrying a pet, or someone underage or the other goofball things that it's been compared to. It's two consenting adults making a commitment.

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    ^^^^ Marrying a pet? ... file me securely under 'Crazy Animal Lovers' but holy shit ... seriously? Just when you think you've heard it all. Does that mean a guy who wants to marry a sheep has to give a dowry to the sheep's family consisting of X number of humans then?

    Anyway; all for today's decision, & I don't have a whole helluva lotta respect for the current Supreme Court. Raziel beat me to it w/ his biting commentary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    It's also not the same as marrying a pet
    The dimwits that bring that up are just posturing. It's the same as the idiots that once said legalizing Abortion would lead to the extinction of the Human race, or the same yahoos that were all up in arms about the feminist movement of the '70's (NO MORE FAMILEEEEEEEEES!!!). Just taking a ridiculous extreme to frighten the kiddies. It's just sad that the kiddies in question are all 40 year old men!

    Today we got a little bit closer to the ideals upon which our nation was founded and that's pretty much it.
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    Marriage sucks and should be abolished as an institution. I suppose it's good for equality's sake but really all this means is that now gay people will get to experience the same suffering straight people have.

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    Yeah the marrying the animals and the rest are just silly and can't remember which dimwit said that. The only one I'd be for would be polygamy, assuming everyone is an adult and consenting. The others won't happen won't happen because not everyone can consent (like animals).

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    The only one I'd be for would be polygamy, assuming everyone is an adult and consenting.
    With this supreme court ruling's legal basis ... which essentially set aside 'tradition' and procreation as controlling factors regarding a 'right' to marriage ... polygamy is indeed likely to be next on the 'agenda'. Chief Justice John Roberts specifically pointed this out in his own opinion - “It is striking how much of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage.”

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    Nothing wrong with polygamy as long as its not part of some crazy religious cult.
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    Polygamy is not a logical step. The basis of the decision was that one group of people was being denied the benefits of marriage solely because of their sexual preference. If opposite sex couples were allowed to benefit from polygamy and same sex people were not, then the logic would follow.

    This is simply a red herring and a sideways way to demean gay couples, as if marrying the love of your life is the same as having sex with your dog.

    If is funny how when Roberts and Scalia are legislating from the bench in a 5 4 decision, they do not complain about things being settled by 5 lawyers.

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    ^^^ I'll try to respond in a very limited and factual way ...

    Regardless of the reasons for his opinion, Chief Justice Roberts clearly left the door open for a polygamy case to soon be brought to the supreme court. One likely candidate is the somewhat famous 'Sister Wives' case ... which recently declared unconstitutional Utah state anti-polygamy laws which were based on 'tradition' and the historical definition of marriage ... and essentially left only one 'obstacle' in place preventing legalized polygamy. That 'obstacle' was the potential unfair treatment of children resulting from polygamous relationships. However, in light of the most recent supreme court ruling ...

    (snip)the arguments for banning polygamy in law are founded not on prejudice but on protecting women and children, “who are often unjustly treated when there is competition among spouses and children” living in a single household.

    He said redefining marriage to include same-sex couples undermines the rationale for bans on polygamous unions, because it argues against “any unique value for children to be born into the marriages of their mothers and fathers.”

    “When marriage is redefined and separated from the rights and interest of children, then the argument for unjust treatment of children in polygamous marriage goes away,” May said. “There will be no longer any reason under the law to prohibit marriage between any number of people(snip)

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    Again, please be aware that I'm not voicing any particular opinion on either gay marriage or polygamy, nor am I voicing any particular opinion regarding the supreme court's gay marriage decision. In response to a point raised by other posters in this thread, I'm simply pointing out the high probability that - as a direct result of the legal points decided in this gay marriage case - a polygamy case will soon be brought before the supreme court.

    End of commentary ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I must say I am excited about this.

    http://boingboing.net/2015/06/26/sup...-marriage.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us...iage.html?_r=0

    Me personally, I have always dated men but I have always had interest in women too. I also have always wanted to get married and loathe the fact that most men are traditional and expect the woman to wait for them to ask. Hell I'll either have to find a guy thats cool with me asking or I'll be waiting for f*cking eternity.

    Visions pop into my head of me asking a woman to marry. I am glad that now all the states recognize marriage between same sex couples and that same sex couples have the same legal marital rights as heterosexual couples.

    My only regret is that I didn't start broadening my horizons and dating women sooner and not in a long term relationship so I could go get married today!

    Any lesbians, gays, transgender couples getting married now???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Nothing wrong with polygamy as long as its not part of some crazy religious cult.
    There's the problem with polygamy. I know several who aren't religious and live that lifestyle. Many others post here. If they want to get married they should be allowed to. However then the nutty FLDS will also be allowed and those people are horrible. Then again the first group are all adults and the second aren't. Another problem I can see with it ate people (especially women)coerced into it. If there's a way to allow consenting adults do it of their free will regardless of religious I'd be for that. I don't think we'll see that for awhile though.

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    The FLDS is not any nuttier than Orthodox Judaism or the Evangelicals. They should be allowed to marry, if they are consenting adults and want to do it. Nothing wrong with polygamy, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trem View Post
    Nothing wrong with polygamy as long as its not part of some crazy religious cult.
    You don't get to decide for another human being that their religion is a crazy cult, or whatever. You either let consenting adults marry or not.

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    Actually they are nuttier. They marry teen girls off and several officials have been convicted of child rape. It's not consenting adults in that situation.

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    Uhm are you aware of the rampant child abuse/rape/incest in the Hasidic community? What about the pedophiles in the Catholic Church? Have you ever met an Evangelical? They are ALL CRAZY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoolaTwister View Post
    Uhm are you aware of the rampant child abuse/rape/incest in the Hasidic community? What about the pedophiles in the Catholic Church? Have you ever met an Evangelical? They are ALL CRAZY.
    How many were marrying child brides? None. Not all priests molest chldren, nor do most but the FLDS Was marrying off children. Look up Warren Jeffs. It's not the same thing. Children can't consent to marriage. The real Mormon church does not acknowledge this cult which is what they are.

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    I'd like to add, whatever someone chooses to believe, they are free to do so. Separation of Church and State and all that good stuff. I want people to be free to do whatever they please, as long as they are not hurting or harming anyone else. I just don't like this contest like "My religion is so much better than these crazy people over there! Let's not give them rights!" It's just stupid.

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    But they are hurting kids! That's where the line is drawn. Read all about them on Wikipedia, they are an evil cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    But they are hurting kids! That's where the line is drawn. Read all about them on Wikipedia, they are an evil cult.
    I have seen a docu on them, totally agree with you, they are a crazy evil cult. But I know people who are personally affected by the actions (and inactions) of the Catholic Church as well as in the Hasidic community. Actually, what I've heard from survivors from the Hasidic community is probably the worst of the worst. Not a lot of it gets out because they are so secretive and closed off. Not a lot of people escape.

    My point, if the (not if, they *are*) marrying off children, that's illegal and disgusting, I'm 1039384848040403% against it. If adults want to practice polygamy in that cult, yes, I will support them for that right.

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