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    Default Being Trolled on cam - Support Group Thread

    Hi everyone, i decided to open this thread in order to have a place where we can offer support to eachother when we are confronted with trolls in our cam rooms. I for myself have the share of trolls every day when on cam, even after 14 years of camming i still cant get used to this phenomenon that is aggravating on cam sites & i know i am not alone, more & more cam models complain about being trolled on cam, veteran or new cam girls, we are all trolled, more or less.

    Who is in Verified section of this forum can read what i posted in there on this matter but i know many of u are not verified members for whatever reason including not eligible, yet. It takes a little while to be eligible for the Verified section but until then new SW members & new cam girls need support in here.
    Especially new cam girls are affected by trolls from what i seen, they just dont know how to react when they are trolled, insulted & humiliated on cam by these people, i think is something a cam girl is not expecting when deciding to cam, right?

    I admit i have a biased view on the troll matter so i just dont want to present my theories right now but u guys can chime in & give input.
    Who are these people, why they doing it & how can we fight against it? I cam on SM just now, we all SM cammers know how the system is there, not going to give further information about the weak points of SM chat interface & it's tools & i am asking u to do the same, just dont tell here in open forum all the tech. details & back doors of SM site, we dont want the bad guys to learn how to troll us even more, right?

    So, let's support eachother & fight against this cruel enemy that is the troll, how should we react, what should we feel/ think when we are being trolled? What should we avoid doing? I can only say "Dont let yourself loose on cam, if u feel like getting angry, ready to burst in tears, GET OFF THE CAM, just dont keep streaming. The internet is full of girls that were recorded doing this exactly, u dont want to be there for all to watch, right?
    The next step i am fighting against when being trolled is, what to feel/ think about the incident & how to put myself together to get back on cam after i been trolled badly. I got amazing advice in Verified section from the members in there but that is a 'personalized' advice given to me cause i deal with a specific situation, is not general advice, i will post about it later on if it fits to a similar situation.

    I will paste in here the relevant portion From Streamate Code of Conduct:

    8. Model Harassment

    Streamate does not condone model to model harassment. If you are found to be harassing, bothering, teasing, distracting and/or mocking other models (either as a model or a member), your account may be suspended or terminated. Streamate supports all models and wants everyone to succeed . We expect all models to behave maturely and support each other.

    Please, let's make this thread a support group for cam models being trolled, let's be positive & supportive to eachother & avoid arguing over the subject. Thank you!

    ETA: a friend of mine gave me this link to read about things i am interested in, the site is full of amazing info, see the related topic - harassment at work, let's also read what the specialists say on this matter.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...nt-work-demand
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    Default Re: Being Trolled on cam - Support Group Thread

    This isn't the positive response you're looking for. Having a thread out like this is just going to get trolls over here and feed off it. Any attention you give them good bad etc is enough for them.

    People are assholes. Someone is always going to have something nasty to say. Plus it's summer and it's hot so people are going to be even more rude and troll. The best thing you can do is just ignore it. Ban and move on. If it really bothers you that bad then try clips or just do phone.
    Regardless trolls are gonna troll and their is nothing you can do but ban. If they ain't paying you who cares what they say.


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    Trolls are just looking for a reaction. Don't give it to them or they'll keep coming back over and over again. Ignore, ban, move on with your day. I know it's WAY easier said than done, but don't take anything they say personally. They don't know you - they just want to make you mad because they think it's entertaining. I PROMISE YOU, many of them are getting off on it. You wouldn't give away free dirty talk to anyone else, so don't do it for them either!

    I have pretty thick skin, so it never really bothers me when trolls show up in my room. I usually mock them for my own entertainment, and the good guys in my room usually get a kick out of it. If I'm not in the mood for that I just ignore them. Banning is too much effort, I'm lazy. But if it's bothering you a lot and keeping you from enjoying your job then BAN BAN BAN. You won't catch them all, but hopefully it will help you feel better when you do catch one (like squashing a bug).

    Also, make sure you're taking care of yourself. Pamper yourself, make sure you're not too stressed out or heading for burnout. Trolls are just part of the job, just like rude/abusive customers in retail, customer service, etc. If it's getting to be too much then take a break, try a new site or switch over to phone sex or making clips.


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    Default Re: Being Trolled on cam - Support Group Thread

    Right, i was thinking this thread can help cam models to cope with the situation better & handle the abusers in a proper manner, obviously there are cam models who are affected by this phenomenon, just blocking the discussion out of fear is not going to help the people in need IMO. Just 'down the road' here in one of the threads a new cam girl is asking for help, i bet she needs an answer too.
    We are different people here with different personalities & different situation "at home", we cope & react different, understanding 'the enemy' is essential IMO, ignoring the situation (the trolls) is not going to help but prolong the stress, how about understanding the abusers instead?

    Some of us only have the option to cam due to regional or language restrictions or lack of service in our area or no way to receive payments due to location, i am in this situation, i can only cam & do it thorough burnout. No way to take a break, no way to stop camming, no way to get another job or a man in my life just now to help with expenses, the only thing i can do is continue to cam & find a way to cope with the situations that bother me.

    Am i the only one who goes thru this? What about the girls who burst out on cam for whatever reason? I am sure that girls have very valid reasons to get there, they obviously are provoked by nasty trolls, if it's other cam girls doing it or nasty men from the internet.

    Pls feel free to post ur point of view, i think the benefits of this thread are higher than the risks, who troll us will do it anyway, not because of this thread but because of... let's find out why. And how to cope/ learn to react. Shall we?

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    You're definitely not the only one. I would guess that 99.999% of camgirls have been harassed at some point. However, I would also guess that most camgirls find a way to work through it because it would be impossible to avoid trolling entirely.

    I was harassed a lot when I first started camming, but it slowed WAY down after I stopped reacting to it. I swear, most of those guys have a degredation fetish and they're getting off on our reactions to their abuse. They don't mean a single word of it - they just say whatever they think will get a reaction. I've had guys spout absolute nonsense at me before - THEY DO NOT MEAN IT. They will say ANYTHING to get your attention and a reaction.

    The best advice I can give is to ignore it and don't take any of it to heart. Also, I know that some people may disagree with this, but I really like watching other models for inspiration. There are some awesome models who handle trolls *brilliantly*, and I watched and learned from them. Sometimes "trolling back" can be just as effective as ignoring them, plus it's way more satisfying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlettbelle View Post
    Trolls are just part of the job, just like rude/abusive customers in retail, customer service, etc.
    With the spectacular added bonus that we don't have to pretend to be friendly and at their service or risk being fired. I work with the public in my day job - at a place no one should be grumpy to visit - and I get soooo many assholes I just wanna punch in the face. But I can't. At least online I'm allowed to mock them, ignore them, boot them or ban them as I see fit.
    "It's amazing what a positive attitude can do!"

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    ^^^ I think i need to become a bitch on cam (when needed) instead of being the nice girl who wanna please all the customers. Can u guys believe i did this for many years because i was 'set up' to cam this way from the times i was working in a studio? Can u believe i started to cam naturally enjoying my time on cam with members & after maybe 2 weeks i was told i have a goal i need to reach per day?

    From that very moment on all the joy & fun disappeared & the pleasant cam activity became a job? Even today studio girls have goals to reach, not all of us have the luxury to work for ourselves (i am, i left the studio after maybe 5 months?! back in the time).
    Still i was thinking I NEED TO BE NICE & pleasant to make them buy when in fact i often wanted to strangle them. But no more i swear! From now on i will be myself, natural, bitchy if needed, let's see what happens! Today i cut my hair short, i kept it longer because i believed it will look better on cam, all because i wanted to please these guys on cam. I am going to reinvent myself & be me, the one from 14 yrs ago, before i was told i have a monetary goal to reach.

    By the way, i read "Why men love bitches" & am almost at the end with my reading, again Life changing!

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    One more thing, i am not the girl to ignore an offense but fight back instead so yay for the trolling back, this suits me, the real me not the nice one on cam, the cam persona, i'll change the cam persona into ME, i am a fighter bloody hell, i fought life no matter what but been to scared to fight trolls back on cam?! No more! I think i needed to reach a critical moment to make a 360 degree turn in understanding & attitude. I have a tag i hid, my 1st tag i got on SM actually, is 'Cunt bitch'. Should i display it? I am not sure of the meaning lol? I mean i know what it means but is positive or negative or how? To be displayed or kept hidden?

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    I can definitely see the benefit of being customer-oriented in this line of work, even with the dickheads. Putting up with shit like rudeness and crazy requests, at least if they're paying anyway... but I really just can't be bothered. I have bills to pay and money stresses the shit out of me, I have no safety net, so it isn't about having a lucky situation that allows me to be picky. I just know if I force myself today to put up with stuff that makes me uncomfortable, I won't be able to force myself to get online tomorrow. Need to keep the "big picture" in mind for this job - do I wanna make an extra $ off this total loser and feel gross and lose my positive streak which will cut my earnings for who knows how long into the future? Or cut him off and feel good about myself while waiting for the customers who will treat me right? So far this attitude hasn't hurt my earnings at all (far as I know, at least not enough for me to worry about) and I like my job a lot.
    "It's amazing what a positive attitude can do!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    I have a tag i hid, my 1st tag i got on SM actually, is 'Cunt bitch'. Should i display it?
    Depends on if you wanna do domination shows or not, neh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublerainbow View Post
    Depends on if you wanna do domination shows or not, neh?
    I am not very good at roleplaying, i mean i can do it if i type but they want me to talk & here i get ... intimidated. I cant actually provide proper domination shows due to language barrier/ foreign accent, here is a weak point i need to work on, from what i experienced most guys leave when i start talking. I wish i could provide these kind of shows cause i have the knowledge & right attitude, just most guys want me roleplaying in native spoken english.... So i better dont display the tag

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    Default Re: Being Trolled on cam - Support Group Thread

    My friend used to troll them back with LOVE.
    She just pissed trolls off.
    Troll: you fugly bitch, show me pussy!
    She: hey you I love you.
    Troll: you stupid bitch show me more if you love me!
    She: i cant show anyting i luvvvv you so muchh,
    Well all those haters did not lasted even 10 mins of her love.
    True story!


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    ^^^I love that! I sometimes do something similar. I'll go over the top acting like I think they're complimenting me, thanking them for being sooo sweet and lovely etc etc Works like a charm!


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    I think we changing the thread 'theme' from being trolled to 'How to troll back' & this is amazing really!
    I too trolled back now & then when my financial situation 'allowed' me to be more relaxed on cam, i was sarcastic back then.
    One example i remember just now:
    Troll: You kidding me with these prices, u really charging that?!
    Me: Oh, should i charge more, not high enough for you?
    Him-> leaving

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    Default Re: Being Trolled on cam - Support Group Thread

    I don't give trolls the time of day but since this is a support thread I wanted to give a virtual hug and some sound advice.
    Ignore. Kick. Ban. Stop giving these trolls your fucks/power. They're so starved for attention that they come in your rooms and when you allow them to make you feel a certain way; you're giving them what they want and possibly fucking with YOUR money/hustle. Fuck 'em.

    Ban them to let them know that you don't give one lonely fuck so they can move on and bug someone else. Occasionally I'll heckle them but most of the time I ignore them. Like, my confidence is too high and my skin is too tough to allow someone to break me down verbally. I'm here to make money and that's it. Period. If you're not helping me towards that goal; bye bitch! The best thing to do to get back to a troll is to keep smiling, teasing, and enjoying your hustle. Evil people that don't get the reaction they want SEETHE because they used all of their energy to try and bring you down and they FAILED. They thought they'd waltz into your room and bring you down and at the end they wasted THEIR time because their tactics didn't work on you. Tough!

    If your room sees you handle them nonchalantly, they'll forget about it and or attack them for you, lol. Good luck! Death to trolls!




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    For me all customers are usernames. I do not develop relationships on cam, and even if i catch myself doing so, i nip it in the bud fast. It's all acting, so either compliments, or trolling doesn't reach me. I don't feed my ego with this work.

    If you are waiting for validation on your worth from this work, you will realize you are in the wrong business sooner or later. I'm in it solely for the money, the rest is background noise.

    You need to be mature and have a good understanding how the human souls work. Then you will understand the cause and effect and gain understanding from it, without getting hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busygirl View Post
    For me all customers are usernames. I do not develop relationships on cam, and even if i catch myself doing so, i nip it in the bud fast. It's all acting, so either compliments, or trolling doesn't reach me. I don't feed my ego with this work.

    If you are waiting for validation on your worth from this work, you will realize you are in the wrong business sooner or later. I'm in it solely for the money, the rest is background noise.
    Truth! They're all dollar signs at the end of the day for me as well. It's either a +$0.00 or -$0.00




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    Quote Originally Posted by Busygirl View Post
    If you are waiting for validation on your worth from this work, you will realize you are in the wrong business sooner or later. I'm in it solely for the money, the rest is background noise.
    I really need to remember this. It's how I went into camming thinking but it can be easy to forget. As someone who's dealt with self-worth issues all her life, it can be very tempting to let all the compliments boost your ego. At the end of the day, though, I'm triple as confident out in the real world as I used to be and that's not because some text on a screen called me a goddess, it's because the money I raked in made me feel like one. This job can offer loads of validation in so far as you can become financially stable, independent, build up to big goals for the future. It's important to keep in mind that it has absolutely nothing to do with the text we read or the screen names we encounter, one way or the other.
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    I think it's also important to not let the amount you make determine your worth as well. I've had trolls come in and sit and comment on how I should "go sit in paid mode" or "haha, no one is taking you private!". We decide how we allow people to treat us. However allowing the $ amount to control us as well is just as bad as allowing a troll to make us feel bad. Be glad you get to make money from home and celebrate your independence from the 9-5 no matter how much you bring in




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    It's all great but please, please also, do not link monetary gains to your worth either. You are worthy as you are, before money, before anything.

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    I try not to feed the trolls unless I'm super bored I will use them as entertainment (it's a guilty pleasure of mine). I let me know the little bit of attention I do give them is charity on my part and will block and ban their asses. I still try to hustle them too lol.

    "you're a bitch" - I'm much sweeter in pvt baby

    "you're ugly"- I'm soooooo much prettier in pvt, take me if you don't believe me ;-)

    etc

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    Myself i tryed to troll back with very sweet smile. And trolls do not last too long.
    Some fucker get very offended by sarcasm they may start cyber bulling you, hating you and post vids of you online. Some people does not have a life FOR REAL! So just be sweet, like very very very sweet iced tea!
    Do not need to poison yourself with all those negative emotions.
    Some fucks even getting off by your negative emotions, i sell those kind off humiliating vids. im not gonna even humiliate someone for free!

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    Sometimes those trolls become customers. One came in recently and said "If Oprah and a monkey had a baby it would be you" I laughed so damn hard because to me that ish was funny. But I didn't respond with words. I just kept talking to other guys in the room. One of them tipped me. So after awhile I privately typed to the troll "So do you always jackoff to monkeys?" He took me private. Rarely do I let them get to me. The last time I did a relative had passed and I took a long hiatus from freechat. If you start getting emotional then you won't be able to do this job. Outside of blocking them you can't control what they do. You can only manage yourself. Work on something else until you feel strong enough to handle freechat. Clips,phone sex

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    I generally like telling them how much they suck as trolls. That generally gets them.
    "Yur Ugly"
    "No I'm not; Jesus could you put some effort into this?"
    "Well, ur hair is stupid."
    *Eyeroll* "Seriously bro, I'm just trying to help you here, you really need to step up your game."
    At that point the room tends to start picking on them too and they make a hasty exit or I quietly ban them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busygirl View Post
    For me all customers are usernames. I do not develop relationships on cam, and even if i catch myself doing so, i nip it in the bud fast. It's all acting, so either compliments, or trolling doesn't reach me. I don't feed my ego with this work.

    If you are waiting for validation on your worth from this work, you will realize you are in the wrong business sooner or later. I'm in it solely for the money, the rest is background noise.

    You need to be mature and have a good understanding how the human souls work. Then you will understand the cause and effect and gain understanding from it, without getting hurt.
    ^^^ I agree 100% with this. It's the reason that in over 4 years i've banned maybe 4 people at most and can only recall a couple of times where someone has tried to insult me. I literally just filter everyone but paying customers and those showing signs of becoming customers. The rest do not matter. You need to project less dependency and then you will have less trouble with 'trolls' - things which help with this are working multiple sites so you are not dependent on only that one, making clear on your profile that you do this for fun rather than necessity, never giving power to asshats by acknowledging them, and never losing sight of the fact that they NEED you, not the other way around - you are a sought after commodity and there is only one of you, whom many, many people enjoy and appreciate and pay for. the rest don't mean anything to you!
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