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    Something I've been running into lately: the Bullshit Excuse. It's not a "no, not right now" or even a "no, I'm not getting dances today." It's "No, I purposefully left my wallet in the car so I wouldn't get dances" or the "No, I didn't bring credit cards." Yes, you did. That's how you're buying beer. You are lying.

    And that's fine, except that once they use the Bullshit Excuse, they feel like they can't go back on it. So I circle around an hour later, they've had more beers, they're ready to dance, but if they dance with you then you know they're lying, so they don't.

    Has anyone encountered this? And is there any way to get past it once it's been thrown down?

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    Default Re: The Bullshit Excuse

    Walk away and find a more deserving customer.


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    ^^ Truth.

    That being said if your really wanting to put in the effort you could just be straight up with them. Actually your, "Yes, you did. That's how you're buying beer. You are lying..." quote kind of goes into the broke shamming hustle and I think it could work if you did it with some seduction. I briefly skimmed the "broke-shaming hustle" thread... https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...Shaming-Hustle. It might give you some ideas about how to utilize it when dealing with this kind of guy. If it works, awesome! If it doesn't this guy wasn't worth your time anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightGoddess View Post
    Walk away and find a more deserving customer.
    This. The customer has made it clear that he is not interested in spending money on you. Doesn't really matter why: a no is a no, and a bullshit no is a pretty strong no. He knows it's a bullshit excuse and is probably hoping it makes you go away and keeps you from coming back. You just can't hustle everyone, so don't waste your time on customers like this. It's a draining uphill battle with a low likelihood of reward, or at least of any decent reward worth the effort it'll require.

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    The only variation of this I've gotten is the "I'm out of cash".

    Me in high-pitched dumb blonde voice: "Thats what the ATM is for, silly!"
    Him: "Oh... I only have a credit card/maxed out my daily withdrawal, sorry"
    Me: "That's okay, we do cash advances at the bar!"

    And then I give them this little "I know what you're doing, dude" look. Coupled with the 'stupid stripper' voice, their resulting expression is hilarious.

    I've made $$ off this, usually by just being pushy/intimidating with a wishy-washy customer.
    But when it fails, I at least succeed in making the customer feel like I've called his BS and 9/10 times, they leave shortly after.
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."


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    ^I love this.

    And yeah, normally I'd eyeroll and walk but it's been very, very slow these past few weeks and there are long stretches where it's just a few guys in the place. Sigh.

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    I hate that, putting up with more BS than usual because it's slow. Ugh.

    But yeah, that can be a fun hustle, to almost drag them up to the bar/ATM. I did that one night and when the guy's first card got declined I went "Ooooh an Amex?! How about that one?!", pulled it from his wallet and gave it to the bartender
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    The only variation of this I've gotten is the "I'm out of cash".

    Me in high-pitched dumb blonde voice: "Thats what the ATM is for, silly!"
    Him: "Oh... I only have a credit card/maxed out my daily withdrawal, sorry"
    Me: "That's okay, we do cash advances at the bar!"

    And then I give them this little "I know what you're doing, dude" look. Coupled with the 'stupid stripper' voice, their resulting expression is hilarious.

    I've made $$ off this, usually by just being pushy/intimidating with a wishy-washy customer.
    But when it fails, I at least succeed in making the customer feel like I've called his BS and 9/10 times, they leave shortly after.

    I have used this before as well. And if it doesn't work, or if I feel like being a bitch toward customers who are not tipping or buying dances and drinking only, I pull out the "Then why are you even here? Were you intending to piss off strippers today? Because I can go let the managers know you aren't even buying your drink minimums to sit here."

    I have also gone up to group of guys in the past where I watched numerous girls sit down and immediately get up and walk away. In that instance, I just went and asked them why they keep scaring the rest of the strippers off. They replied because they didn't want dances. My response was that apparently they didn't want to drink either since they kept telling the waitress they were good. I suggested they order or leave. They left about 5 minutes later.

    I'm a bitch to the lurkers and gawkers. Even if it hurts my income potential, I don't need the $20 THAT bad from these losers. I just don't appreciate them staring and not buying.

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    Haha I'm right there with Selina. I do a lot of leading to the ATM and wallet checks. "Look you have $30 left! You can do one dance!" *smile* Be aggressive! Half the time they give in, the other half of the time they just leave from embarrassment. Win-win!

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    Subscribing for any genius one-liners!

    These guys are usually a waste of time and energy, but they're worth a quick, high-intensity hustle. Sometimes they cave. But usually they sulk during the entire dance IME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    But usually they sulk during the entire dance IME.
    I don't care if they sulk, as long as they pay me
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I don't care if they sulk, as long as they pay me
    Right there with ya girlie!!

    #hardcorehustlers4lyfe

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    I think if it's slow and not that many customers in the club these 'bullshit excuse' customers are worth persevering with. You can pretend you didn't hear their reason, maybe spend that one minute having the 'are you having a good night tonight babe, how's your night been' talk.. Then tell them again, 'let's go for a dance'. If they start with the excuses, another poster mentioned a short high intensity hustle, and if they keep dribbling excuses you can only ask for a dance a few times in different ways, then just accept the No.
    You did the right thing by waiting an hour, and then going back to hustle them again. In one hours time, they would have probably forgotten the bullshit excuse they gave u in the first place, and have had enough drinks to be ready for a dance.
    I used to work in sales before I started stripping, what I learnt was in that any sales job (stripping is a sales job) it's important to work on a rule of 3. So when your asking for a dance, let the customer decline your dance 3 times in the one conversation before you give up! Now this sounds like a very pushy sales technique, but it's been my experience that it works! Guys will usually cave into a dance if they know you are not taking no for an answer.


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    Rule of 3 huh?!
    Tiny tweaks----->BIG CHANGES

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirakonstantin View Post
    More fear-mongering? Really? Yes, this is not the 1990's anymore. Yes, things are changing. Either dance or don't. Freaking out and sowing fear isn't going to help anyone.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickdreams View Post
    Rule of 3 huh?!
    Let's make it 10!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    But when it fails, I at least succeed in making the customer feel like I've called his BS and 9/10 times, they leave shortly after.
    I love when these customers leave for the night.





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    I normally be sweet for about 10 seconds and then call them out. "I know that's a lie. I'm a stripper I can smell bullshit a mile away. If you don't want a dance from me just be a man and say so."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickdreams View Post
    Rule of 3 huh?!
    My rule is a rule of 5
    Unless I can tell from the get go that they're not going to spend

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloe25 View Post
    I think if it's slow and not that many customers in the club these 'bullshit excuse' customers are worth persevering with. You can pretend you didn't hear their reason, maybe spend that one minute having the 'are you having a good night tonight babe, how's your night been' talk.. Then tell them again, 'let's go for a dance'. If they start with the excuses, another poster mentioned a short high intensity hustle, and if they keep dribbling excuses you can only ask for a dance a few times in different ways, then just accept the No.
    You did the right thing by waiting an hour, and then going back to hustle them again. In one hours time, they would have probably forgotten the bullshit excuse they gave u in the first place, and have had enough drinks to be ready for a dance.
    I used to work in sales before I started stripping, what I learnt was in that any sales job (stripping is a sales job) it's important to work on a rule of 3. So when your asking for a dance, let the customer decline your dance 3 times in the one conversation before you give up! Now this sounds like a very pushy sales technique, but it's been my experience that it works! Guys will usually cave into a dance if they know you are not taking no for an answer.
    This is so great. July has been a little craptastic so I have definitely had to basically bully some guys into dances...it works though! My rule has been as long as he's still talking to me I'm gonna keep asking until I see someone else I can harass. lol!

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    What I hear in my head with these guys:
    *fake english accent and all*

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    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I hate that, putting up with more BS than usual because it's slow. Ugh.

    But yeah, that can be a fun hustle, to almost drag them up to the bar/ATM. I did that one night and when the guy's first card got declined I went "Ooooh an Amex?! How about that one?!", pulled it from his wallet and gave it to the bartender
    That is awesome! lol.. Thank you - I'm gonna remember that one... ;-)

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