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    I just think there's a reason he's doing this
    On a semi-financial note, the 'conspiracy theory' folks would probably tell you that reason is to 'screw' Wall St. The Donald has obviously had his run-ins with Wall St. over the years ... blaming their (in)actions for previous bankruptcies. In contrast, both Hillary and Jeb Bush are undoubtedly already millions deep into Wall St 'deep pockets'.

    See

    We'll find out for sure when Super PAC corporate donors must be disclosed later this month.

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    If we were to believe his claim of a $10B net worth and an income of $362M, that's a meager return of 3.62%. He could do better by converting to cash and buying bonds. He should fire his financial manager and hire Mel.

    Of course there is a small chance he is overstating the value of his brand by a factor of 10 or so and his net worth by 2. He's the guy that always has to top anything anyone else says. The claims regarding the attendance at his AZ appearance is a prime example. He's Kodak - America's Greatest Storyteller. (crap, am I dating myself here or what. lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Unless the illegal came as a kid, they are a criminal. They came here illegally. Yes, quite a few are gang members and the amount who receive assistance is many. Many come here before a child is born so they can receive welfare. This is common knowledge and available online, including a segment Katie Courc did for CBS. Not all illegals are Mexican, nor are all Mexicans illegal but illegals of any race shouldn't be here. Sorry that some illegals have a horrible life but still doesn't give them the right to come here illegally. Sure there are Americans who are scum, but we don't need to import scum from other countries.

    My paternal grandmother was British and never became a citizen but she did it legally. That's all I ask for, to come here legally, work hard, learn English and not take welfare.
    I would love to see figures supporting your claims (as long as they're not coming from people like Donald Trump) because I have never seen any statistics claiming that the majority of illegal aliens are involved in violent crime or living off of welfare (in face: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...nts-and-crime/). I'm sure you can find me a ton of anti-immigration conservatives using one incident as proof that every illegal alien is a criminal and spreading myth after myth, but crime is DECREASING and has been for a long time, and the amount of immigrants in this country is INCREASING and has been for a long time. If someone commits a crime they should go to jail, but the majority of illegal immigrants are hardworking people just trying to get by and take care of their families.

    It's easy to make statements like "sorry that some illegals have a horrible life but still doesn't give them the right to come here illegally" when you have the right to live in one of the wealthiest and safest countries in the world and have never experienced the kind of hardship these people have. Most of them would love to be able to come here legally, but it's not easy as easy as you make it sound to do that. My father was an immigrant and came here legally, but he had advantages the sort of people you're speaking about don't have. And honestly, if they pay taxes, (which they do, even if they are being under the table they pay sales and property taxes) they have just as much right to welfare as anyone else in this country, that's why we have it. I don't agree with everything the English do when it comes to their government and America is definitely ahead in many aspects, but the UK is so far ahead of America when it comes to providing health care, welfare benefits, and implementing immigration policies.

    Just thank your lucky stars you're not the one starving, desperate, and sick trying to gross a gate into a better country with someone who holds your views locking the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    So every illegal immigrant that comes into the US is a gang member or a welfare leech (btw Americans bitch and bitch about welfare leeches, come to the UK and you'll see what a welfare leech REALLY looks like)? That is one hell of a generalisation.

    His statement wasn't even in regard to illegals in general, it was in specified towards Mexicans. Apparently white illegal immigrants are totally cool with him. That's not being a politician, that's being a racist. Are there some illegal immigrants who are gang members and welfare leeches? Yeah, but guess what, there are also tons of Americans who are gang members and welfare leeches. Are we going to throw them out as well? How about all the American rapists and murders that are here? There are tons of immigrants who come to the US out of desperation and clean toilets, pick up trash, work labour intensive jobs for below the minimum wage with no benefits because it's better than where they came from.

    However, I'm happy for him to go on his rants for as long as he wants, Latinos make up almost 20% of the American population so if he wants to turn a fifth of America against in the voting pools, go ahead.

    But I am also not a Hilary Clinton fan so I think I'll just 'forget' to send in my vote for this election if Bernie Sanders doesn't end up being on the ticket.
    He didn't say all, he said some. And yes, a DISPROPORTIONATE number of illegals crossing over the border are. Not a lot of violent illegals from Iceland, correct? He's specifically speaking about Mexico and Mexicans because that's a huge problem we are having at the moment. Aren't you from Los Angeles? My ex was born and raised there, I still have friends. How do you feel about the gang wars going on between illegal Mexicans and African Americans? Wasn't there recently a little African American girl murdered, a notch in an illegal's belt? Hasn't Compton practically been racially cleansed?
    There's a 30% black teen unemployment rate right now. They used to do those jobs "Americans are too lazy to do." Well, no more. Illegals have lowered down wages as well, who would want tondo that work for much less now? You're advocating for slave labor, basically.
    Also, have you been to an inner city public school lately? Half the kids are Hispanic and half of them don't speak English. Classes have to be taught in both Spanish and English, taking time away from kids and doubling the work of teachers. What a nightmare.
    More facts:
    "There are 94 federal court districts in this country and the five located near the southern border see a large portion of criminal cases, according to the Justice Department’s annual report on criminal prosecutions. The five federal districts also have the biggest number of defendants actually convicted of federal crimes."

    "More Than 2,000 Sex Offenders Deported By ICE Every Year In Texas Alone.

    Of the 862 alien sex offenders deported by the Texas-based offices, about 27 percent were convicted of sex offenses against children.

    ICE’s four Texas field offices are located in Dallas, El Paso, Houston and San Antonio. The Dallas area of responsibility includes 128 counties in north Texas, and the state of Oklahoma. Dallas ERO deported 171 sex offenders so far in fiscal year 2014; 47 were convicted of sex offenses against a minor. In all of fiscal year 2013, the office deported 463 sex offenders; 154 were convicted of sex offenses against a minor. In 2013, all four Texas offices deported 2,124 sex offenders; 508 were convicted of sex offenses against a minor. In fiscal year 2012, Texas ERO offices deported 2,007 sex offenders, and 2,127 in 2011."

    "In 2013 the Obama administration released 36,007 criminal immigrants who had nearly 88,000 convictions between them. Those convictions included 193 homicide convictions, 426 sexual assault convictions, 303 kidnapping convictions, and 1,075 aggravated assault convictions."

    Those are just some snippets. But besides that, why is it so controversial for an American to have America's best interest at heart? Why do you bring up "lazy Americans" etc? Do you think Mexico would welcome you with open arms, will let your kids go to school for free, give you a driver's license, food, housing etc. if you crossed the border? No. Mexico has found a great way to get rid of its "undesirables" I don't see a lot of people of color on Telemundo, no? It's upper class is all white and totally laughing at us. America is not a battered women's shelter or something, when will enough be enough? How is this fair for the people who have come here through the proper channels and have done everything right to become citizens.

    Oh and what do you think of "La raza"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    I would love to see figures supporting your claims (as long as they're not coming from people like Donald Trump) because I have never seen any statistics claiming that the majority of illegal aliens are involved in violent crime or living off of welfare (in face: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...nts-and-crime/). I'm sure you can find me a ton of anti-immigration conservatives using one incident as proof that every illegal alien is a criminal and spreading myth after myth, but crime is DECREASING and has been for a long time, and the amount of immigrants in this country is INCREASING and has been for a long time. If someone commits a crime they should go to jail, but the majority of illegal immigrants are hardworking people just trying to get by and take care of their families.

    It's easy to make statements like "sorry that some illegals have a horrible life but still doesn't give them the right to come here illegally" when you have the right to live in one of the wealthiest and safest countries in the world and have never experienced the kind of hardship these people have. Most of them would love to be able to come here legally, but it's not easy as easy as you make it sound to do that. My father was an immigrant and came here legally, but he had advantages the sort of people you're speaking about don't have. And honestly, if they pay taxes, (which they do, even if they are being under the table they pay sales and property taxes) they have just as much right to welfare as anyone else in this country, that's why we have it. I don't agree with everything the English do when it comes to their government and America is definitely ahead in many aspects, but the UK is so far ahead of America when it comes to providing health care, welfare benefits, and implementing immigration policies.

    Just thank your lucky stars you're not the one starving, desperate, and sick trying to gross a gate into a better country with someone who holds your views locking the door.
    The link you provided is counting all IMMIGRANTS, not ILLEGAL immigrants. Nice little trick actually.

    Why is this all our problem? And if you think the UK is doing great with their immigration policies, dear Lord, help us all. Of course when you have children they will go to a nice private school there, correct? People used to not have to do that, you know.

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    And I'm soooo sick of hearing that talking point "Illegals pay taxes blah blah" They literally take five times more out than they put in, in social services.

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    Trump is a useless bag of shower drain hair.
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    Maybe it's just me but I love listening to Donald Trump expose the backdoor dealings. He's a braggart and he's boastful but I like his straight forward attitude. I think we need someone that doesn't need campaign contributions to get elected. He's the big man in business and I feel he can put the U.S. back on the map. His speeches are just electrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturnelle View Post
    Trump is a useless bag of shower drain hair.
    Sure, but is he wrong?

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/0...sing-campaign/

    Why is the media hiding this? I'm horrified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    I would love to see figures supporting your claims (as long as they're not coming from people like Donald Trump) because I have never seen any statistics claiming that the majority of illegal aliens are involved in violent crime or living off of welfare (in face: ). I'm sure you can find me a ton of anti-immigration conservatives using one incident as proof that every illegal alien is a criminal and spreading myth after myth, but crime is DECREASING and has been for a long time, and the amount of immigrants in this country is INCREASING and has been for a long time. If someone commits a crime they should go to jail, but the majority of illegal immigrants are hardworking people just trying to get by and take care of their families.

    It's easy to make statements like "sorry that some illegals have a horrible life but still doesn't give them the right to come here illegally" when you have the right to live in one of the wealthiest and safest countries in the world and have never experienced the kind of hardship these people have. Most of them would love to be able to come here legally, but it's not easy as easy as you make it sound to do that. My father was an immigrant and came here legally, but he had advantages the sort of people you're speaking about don't have. And honestly, if they pay taxes, (which they do, even if they are being under the table they pay sales and property taxes) they have just as much right to welfare as anyone else in this country, that's why we have it. I don't agree with everything the English do when it comes to their government and America is definitely ahead in many aspects, but the UK is so far ahead of America when it comes to providing health care, welfare benefits, and implementing immigration policies.

    Just thank your lucky stars you're not the one starving, desperate, and sick trying to gross a gate into a better country with someone who holds your views locking the door.
    Well, I'd rather take the illegals coming to USA versus England because at least most aren't terrorists, I have relatives in Europe (England and France)who tell me horrible stories of immigrants trying to push Sharia law.

    Anyway, yes it sucks people are born in the wrong country but why should taxpayers have to pay them for welfare? . This study states 57% percent of all immigrant household (both legal and illegal)use welfare. Further down it states 71% of all households with children and an illegal use welfare. Nope not all come here to work hard. There is also the story Katie Couric did on CBS about illegals coming here while pregnant. Nope don't want to support illegals. So what if they pay sales tax they are here ILLEGALLY. If they want to come here they should do it legally. My grandmother did.

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    Country which originaly was populated by indians and remind me...who is immigrants here? Like literally all of us...

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    Except back then there was no welfare.

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    Country which originaly was populated by indians and remind me...who is immigrants here? Like literally all of us...
    This is just such a pointless argument. Native Americans were fighting each other for land as well, displacing entire tribes etc. Fight for land and territory have been going on for as long as humans existed, it's not unique to the US. So, this is the unites States of America now. It's a country with laws and borders. We need to put our citizens first, help ourselves first before we can even think of helping anyone else.

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    He didn't say all, he said some. And yes, a DISPROPORTIONATE number of illegals crossing over the border are. Not a lot of violent illegals from Iceland, correct? He's specifically speaking about Mexico and Mexicans because that's a huge problem we are having at the moment. Aren't you from Los Angeles? My ex was born and raised there, I still have friends. How do you feel about the gang wars going on between illegal Mexicans and African Americans? Wasn't there recently a little African American girl murdered, a notch in an illegal's belt? Hasn't Compton practically been racially cleansed?
    There's a 30% black teen unemployment rate right now. They used to do those jobs "Americans are too lazy to do." Well, no more. Illegals have lowered down wages as well, who would want tondo that work for much less now? You're advocating for slave labor, basically.
    Also, have you been to an inner city public school lately? Half the kids are Hispanic and half of them don't speak English. Classes have to be taught in both Spanish and English, taking time away from kids and doubling the work of teachers. What a nightmare.
    More facts:
    "There are 94 federal court districts in this country and the five located near the southern border see a large portion of criminal cases, according to the Justice Department’s annual report on criminal prosecutions. The five federal districts also have the biggest number of defendants actually convicted of federal crimes."

    "More Than 2,000 Sex Offenders Deported By ICE Every Year In Texas Alone.

    Of the 862 alien sex offenders deported by the Texas-based offices, about 27 percent were convicted of sex offenses against children.

    ICE’s four Texas field offices are located in Dallas, El Paso, Houston and San Antonio. The Dallas area of responsibility includes 128 counties in north Texas, and the state of Oklahoma. Dallas ERO deported 171 sex offenders so far in fiscal year 2014; 47 were convicted of sex offenses against a minor. In all of fiscal year 2013, the office deported 463 sex offenders; 154 were convicted of sex offenses against a minor. In 2013, all four Texas offices deported 2,124 sex offenders; 508 were convicted of sex offenses against a minor. In fiscal year 2012, Texas ERO offices deported 2,007 sex offenders, and 2,127 in 2011."

    "In 2013 the Obama administration released 36,007 criminal immigrants who had nearly 88,000 convictions between them. Those convictions included 193 homicide convictions, 426 sexual assault convictions, 303 kidnapping convictions, and 1,075 aggravated assault convictions."

    Those are just some snippets. But besides that, why is it so controversial for an American to have America's best interest at heart? Why do you bring up "lazy Americans" etc? Do you think Mexico would welcome you with open arms, will let your kids go to school for free, give you a driver's license, food, housing etc. if you crossed the border? No. Mexico has found a great way to get rid of its "undesirables" I don't see a lot of people of color on Telemundo, no? It's upper class is all white and totally laughing at us. America is not a battered women's shelter or something, when will enough be enough? How is this fair for the people who have come here through the proper channels and have done everything right to become citizens.

    Oh and what do you think of "La raza"?
    Excellent post. What many don't know or fail to mention is that Mexico makes it very hard for illegals. You're not automatically a citizen, nor can illegals get welfare. They don't make concessions for English speakers except in places like tourism. Mexico has a middle class but for the most part aren't the illegals. Mexicans do legally immigrate here but I know most are generally more educated. Illegals often aren't even literate in their languages, which often isn't even Spanish. Many Mexicans speak an indigenous language. Many of them will never be successful. What they do is take the less skilled jobs from our poor, mostly black kids. Many would work the jobs the illegals do, and that would help benefit the ghetto. Instead we get people who are paid under the table. The fact is there aren't enough jobs for everyone as it is.

    I have a friend who is Mexican and his family (down the line)came here legally. He's not Mestizo, in fact he has blue eyes and him and his brother and sisters were all blonde. The difference of course is he's not uneducated and born here. His family had as much of a right to immigrate as mine did but they did it legally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoolaTwister View Post
    This is just such a pointless argument. Native Americans were fighting each other for land as well, displacing entire tribes etc. Fight for land and territory have been going on for as long as humans existed, it's not unique to the US. So, this is the unites States of America now. It's a country with laws and borders. We need to put our citizens first, help ourselves first before we can even think of helping anyone else.
    Thats absolutely right! Citizens should remind to gov where its place and what they should do.
    Trump is a media person, he is not suitble to be a president. Cant even watch after his own tongue. Ah yes...his slovenian wife oh dude absolutly lost ground under his feet.

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    I'm supposed to delete political posts/threads and warn/point people.

    But the OP is fucking hilarious. There is no way I can take Trump seriously, except maybe as a fucking buttplug.

    I apologize for giving into the humor of the situation and leaving the thread up, and also for not taking the time to delete all the various political replies.
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