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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    But if Jenner did earlier there would be name calls. Now it's more acceptable and more in the media.
    I was talking about when she made the decision to transition and was first going through HRT. But that is a good thing! My godmother transitioned in 1988. Most of her family disowned her. Her life was in danger many times she went out in public. She was literally chased by a small angry mob on several occasions and physically and sexually assaulted. Someone tried setting her house on fire. She had "AIDS FAG" spray painted on her car. Of course, life is a lot different for her, since times have changed. Most of her family has came around, and she has a great community that accepts her.

    There are good GOOD reasons why people didn't transition back then. For the fear of their lives or being publicly shamed, not because just name calling. And guess what? that still happens in parts around the country and the world! It's straight up inhumane.





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    Default Re: Bruce Jenner condemned by crash victim

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    I'll probably get some mad but I question the whole story of transitioning. I know there are people who truly are trans but this family has shown they'll do anything for attention. Even if it is true doesn't make Jenner a hero. Anyway, nope I don't believe Jenner deserved the award, it should have gone to the other competitors like Lauren Hill (not the singer) who played basketball while losing to cancer. Jenner is no hero. Yes BRUCE Jenner was an Olympian but nothing after that, except on a sleazy show.
    While I agree with you that they would do anything for publicity, she has gone through some extensive procedures. I know she's been on hormones and has gotten breast implants and had her adams apple shaved and had facial reconstructive surgery, which apparently took ten hours... and she's been open about all of this and posted photos with her surgeon crediting him so nothing has been 'leaked' she put it out there herself. It seems like a pretty extensive thing to go through that just for publicity, walking down the aisle is a lot easier. I can't even imagine how much those implants must have hurt with no breast tissue, when I got my BA I wanted to die and I already had boobs. I don't think the fact that she's transitioned late in life makes it unauthentic. It's not an easy thing to do and if you haven't been there it's not really your place to judge.

    I'm certainly no fan of the Kardashians but if she can use her fame to bring attention and understanding to LGBT issues then I think that's great, since there's really only one trans celebrity doing that right now, Laverne Cox. But I kind of doubt she is going to go that route. So far everything has been about "look at me in my sexy dress in my fancy car.." I remember she talked about how when she wanted to make her transition she couldn't be a "man in a dress" it had to look perfect. I remember Laverne Cox wrote a piece after that Vanity Fair article about how not everyone has the financial means to have the sort of reconstruction surgery done that she and Jenner have, and the focus shouldn't be on how good they look (http://fusion.net/story/143235/laver...se-privileges/) But what can you expect from a Kardashian.

    I have no thoughts on the award since I don't know much about it, but I've read that the people filing the wrongful death suit against her are estranged relatives of the car crash victim who hadn't been in contact with her for years. There was footage of the accident and the police declined to prosecute. Yes having the Jenner last name might make some things slide off her, but it also makes her a target for money-hungry people looking for a settlement. Interesting the crash was back in January (I think) and they're just brining suit against her now. But I'll wait to see what the court decides.

    Perhaps she was driving recklessly but she literally walked away from the accident with no charges, not even a ticket. Accidents happen all the time in LA. I remember driving on the freeway once and someone slowed down, the car behind them didn't catch it in time and hit them, and there was literally a 5 car pile up. Shit happens on the freeway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturnelle View Post
    Why are her genitals any of your business? Jesus christ this post is disgusting.
    What? Wait isnt this what this whole story is about? Her genitals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 423texas View Post
    Reportedly, Jenner still has a Johnson.
    He told the kids he didn't want to change it at this time because he really had enough on his plate with the outward changes. There were paparazzi shooting through the windows, stalking him, the whole nine. Now that she is here maybe that will die down but who knows. PimpMamaKris keeps them on speed dial. One false move screwing one of her friends and she's toast!
    Back then he said he wasn't even thinking about dating and wasn't certain if he would date guys since he felt attracted to women. His sons used to tease him about having a crush on his guy friend Jeff Dunham! They are both conservative white men so they share the same values and....Jeff got divorced recently. Jus sayin'. The scuttlebutt is that Tim Robbins or Liam Neeson might be a good match. Even Daniel Bolud. My money's on Bolud since he's a good cook and now she can enjoy the domesticity that he was denied by PimpMama. You know Kris ain't cookin' for shit! He couldn't keep her home. There's always Eddie Murphy! We know he likes transsexual women so if Caitlyn has been bitten with the Kardashian/Jenner Black Man Love Bug--it's ON!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturnelle View Post
    Why are her genitals any of your business? Jesus christ this post is disgusting.
    Could it be because of he has been using them to seek publicity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post

    Perhaps she was driving recklessly but she literally walked away from the accident with no charges, not even a ticket. Accidents happen all the time in LA. I remember driving on the freeway once and someone slowed down, the car behind them didn't catch it in time and hit them, and there was literally a 5 car pile up. Shit happens on the freeway.
    Psssh people go to jail all the time for accidents they cause--as long as they aren't rich or famous. Shit happens and THEN you get slapped with a manslaughter charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    I was talking about when she made the decision to transition and was first going through HRT. But that is a good thing! My godmother transitioned in 1988. Most of her family disowned her. Her life was in danger many times she went out in public. She was literally chased by a small angry mob on several occasions and physically and sexually assaulted. Someone tried setting her house on fire. She had "AIDS FAG" spray painted on her car. Of course, life is a lot different for her, since times have changed. Most of her family has came around, and she has a great community that accepts her.

    There are good GOOD reasons why people didn't transition back then. For the fear of their lives or being publicly shamed, not because just name calling. And guess what? that still happens in parts around the country and the world! It's straight up inhumane.
    Wow this made me so sad what your godmother had to go through and incredibly happy she's doing ok now. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audritwo View Post
    I was talking about when she made the decision to transition and was first going through HRT. But that is a good thing! My godmother transitioned in 1988. Most of her family disowned her. Her life was in danger many times she went out in public. She was literally chased by a small angry mob on several occasions and physically and sexually assaulted. Someone tried setting her house on fire. She had "AIDS FAG" spray painted on her car. Of course, life is a lot different for her, since times have changed. Most of her family has came around, and she has a great community that accepts her.

    There are good GOOD reasons why people didn't transition back then. For the fear of their lives or being publicly shamed, not because just name calling. And guess what? that still happens in parts around the country and the world! It's straight up inhumane.
    Sure but right now seems odd. I agree it was rough to transition many years back but this has been in the news in the last few years because of Laverne Cox and Chaz Bono. My ex boyfriend's brother yransitioned and his family had a rough time considering him a she and she called herself a lesbian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    While I agree with you that they would do anything for publicity, she has gone through some extensive procedures. I know she's been on hormones and has gotten breast implants and had her adams apple shaved and had facial reconstructive surgery, which apparently took ten hours... and she's been open about all of this and posted photos with her surgeon crediting him so nothing has been 'leaked' she put it out there herself. It seems like a pretty extensive thing to go through that just for publicity, walking down the aisle is a lot easier. I can't even imagine how much those implants must have hurt with no breast tissue, when I got my BA I wanted to die and I already had boobs. I don't think the fact that she's transitioned late in life makes it unauthentic. It's not an easy thing to do and if you haven't been there it's not really your place to judge.

    I'm certainly no fan of the Kardashians but if she can use her fame to bring attention and understanding to LGBT issues then I think that's great, since there's really only one trans celebrity doing that right now, Laverne Cox. But I kind of doubt she is going to go that route. So far everything has been about "look at me in my sexy dress in my fancy car.." I remember she talked about how when she wanted to make her transition she couldn't be a "man in a dress" it had to look perfect. I remember Laverne Cox wrote a piece after that Vanity Fair article about how not everyone has the financial means to have the sort of reconstruction surgery done that she and Jenner have, and the focus shouldn't be on how good they look () But what can you expect from a Kardashian.

    I have no thoughts on the award since I don't know much about it, but I've read that the people filing the wrongful death suit against her are estranged relatives of the car crash victim who hadn't been in contact with her for years. There was footage of the accident and the police declined to prosecute. Yes having the Jenner last name might make some things slide off her, but it also makes her a target for money-hungry people looking for a settlement. Interesting the crash was back in January (I think) and they're just brining suit against her now. But I'll wait to see what the court decides.

    Perhaps she was driving recklessly but she literally walked away from the accident with no charges, not even a ticket. Accidents happen all the time in LA. I remember driving on the freeway once and someone slowed down, the car behind them didn't catch it in time and hit them, and there was literally a 5 car pile up. Shit happens on the freeway.
    That's it too, Jenner hasn't done the publicity like Laverne Cox. She isn't trans for attention, but I believe Jenner is. This family does have plastic surgery so even that I don't put past Jenner.

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    Caitlyn took the hormones way before she met Kris and stopped when they got together. That was discussed in her interview. I don't think that was for attention.

    Looks like she wished to go through it at that time, but didn't have the support, wasn't ready, or whatever the reasoning.....

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    He was biologically a man when he caused that accident that killed that poor woman. So now he is Caitlyn, fine. But don't expect me to have a shred of respect for him or her now.

    His genitals at the time would indeed have been none of my business, but the media has been harping on the state of his genitals nonstop for months now--or rather hers now I guess since he/she cut them off.

    I fail to see how my utter disgust at this outrageous award for nonexistent 'courage' should provoke or insult anyone on this forum. But since some of you are so appalled by my protesting this mockery of an ESPY award, I will gladly close the thread.
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